Musk/Twitter Document Dump
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Pearl clutching bs from a bunch of pansies wanting to take their ball & go home. What you want is to have free reign & not be challenged or have challenging viewpoints that aren’t aligned with your views. If your true goal is to use science to help people, educate the world, & improve society you can ignore a few dumbfvcks. Or if you truly can’t take it, well you know…
Twitter dump 6. 80 FBI agents working in Twitter office. FBI sending emails to take down jokes.
Good 👍. You’re an idiot and I assume most of the people you get your “information” from are as well. Good riddance to all of you.
I’m sure they did it in a even handed equal and diverse manner.
This is so bad and our liberal brethren don’t give a shit.
The FBI needs blown up and start over.
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You mean the fbi that is still being led by a republican?
Pathetic conservatives just have panties in a twist over a nothing burger
It's a fair question. Do you have any actual info about the person who supposedly doxxed Elon? Any reason to think it's a leftist nutjob? Or just assumptions?
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Trump was going to release his healthcare plans, but he couldn't because they were still being audited.
Trump is very rich, you know, and his healthcare plans are so complicated that most people wouldn't even understand them.
Cori bush is one of the original blm activists. Cori bush the progressive. You have now been told this more than a dozen times. Of course blm was a left organization. What is wrong with your brain
Take away the federal immunity for web sites like Twitter and Facebook and much of the disinformation would go away immediately.
I don’t know about that. Defamatory stuff yes. Other stuff I’m not so sure about. Possibly.
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Jeez. This post is a Gish Gallop -- impossible to evaluate. This guy is all over the place. He wrote:
1. "CBS' decision to VOLUNTARILY hold the story"
2. "hundreds of posters who were banned, shadow banned, etc. INVOLUNTARILY"
3. "the CEO of Twitter perjuring himself in Congressional testimony, by testifying it never happened"
4. "as many as a dozen FBI agents all were hired by Twitter after President DJT took office"
Gish Gallop. Look it up.
Funny how both sides are hypocrites. Elon banning people, who happen to be his biggest critics, for supposed doxxing.
Meanwhile, leftists were pushing for bans on Trump and other right wingers are now complaining about their own bans, despite historical low fact, highly political tweeting.
This country is a shit show.
I don't necessarily disagree, but the Sandy Hook case seems to indicate a significant broadening of what constitutes "defamation."
Historically, the elements of "defamation" were:
the following:
- A false statement of fact;
- Publication of the statement to a third party;
- That the statement concerns the plaintiff and tends to harm his or her reputation; and
- Fault amounting to at least negligence or, in the case of a public figure, actual malice, which is knowledge that the statement is false or reckless disregard as to its falsity.
Elements of Defamation
When you are faced with Internet defamation or online libel, it is important to know the elements of defamation so that you can collect the evidence needed to prove your case. In most states, the elements of defamation are the following: A false statement of fact; Publication of the statement to...
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But many/most of Alex Jones' statements did not seem to concern the parents who sued but instead were about the shooting, the shooting victims and witnesses. The parents' lawsuit alleged false statements caused them emotional distress but I don't recall what statements of Jones they claimed to have harmed the parents' reputations.
If Sandy Hook is now representative of the current breadth of defamation law, it seems like a lot of the disinformation and hyperbole in internet discussions could lead to more defamation lawsuits than previously.
Most of these cases are more like I don’t like mike pegram. Under the handle Mcmurtry66 I post defamatory shit about him in a video on YouTube. Mike goes to sue google. Google has immunity and doesn’t have to disclose Mcmurtry66. Lift immunity in that sense and google may have liability issues and will have to disclose who Mcmurtry66 is who will certainly have potential liability for the defamatory remarks.
What interests me more are people posting false information on social media that I rely upon that’s injurious. That my kid relies upon. Tort liability against the platform. causation. Proximate cause. Foreseeability. Reasonableness.
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Another thing:
Elections generate discussion.
Three out of four years are election years.
Non-primary elections and runoffs generally occur in the fourth quarter.
Quite a bit of Ontario speaks English. Plus, Ontario has several kinds of ores, grain and forests.
Surely, you're not suggesting that kind of thing is enough to justify invasion.
This might be a discussion for its own thread. It is quite possible America has always been this way, but social media/internet makes it all so visible.
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"Sandy Hook" represents two cases litigated under two different states' laws--CT and TX. Neither case involved a broadening of defamation law, let alone a significant one.
Jones repeatedly and falsely stated that the parents engaged in a hoax, faking the deaths of their young children. That clearly harmed their reputation, and in fact, led to people harassing them and threatening them because of this harm to their reputation.
No decision expanded the law, either, because in each case Jones was defaulted by the judge for discovery violations.
Alex Jones, Infowars, and the Sandy Hook Defamation Suits
Learn about the Sandy Hook defamation suits against the conspiracy theoriest Alex Jones, including updated rulings, key dates, and expert analysis.
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Wait....I had to do a double take here. Are you somehow attempting to claim the BLM movement wasn't a left/ progressive social movement?
That would defy common sense.
Bingo. I honestly think there is less actual REAL division in this country than there was in prior generations. But what division there is from wingnuts gets amplified and repeated to such an extreme.... that we all sit around thinking that the country must be ready to go to civil war or some such ridiculousness.
Good luck getting a protest march together in 2023. People are burnt out on political division, by and large.
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It wasn't a dem/liberal movement. It was a race movement. In fact, a blm protest in NY was against dem covid policies. Kind of goes against this thought that blm was puppeteered by dems.
GOP attacked it and dems defended their right to protest (but not their right to damage property or commit crimes) but that doesn't make blm a dem movement
Jean Carroll publicly accused Trump of bad things that Trump denies.
Ordinarily, Trump would be the plaintiff contending that Carroll defamed him.
But, instead, Carrol is suing Trump for defamation, claiming that Trump's statements saying her accusations were "a Hoax and a lie" defamed her.
That seems like a broadening of the definition of defamation.
Was it previously possible for an accuser to bring a lawsuit claiming the other guy committed defamation by denying the first guy's accusations?
I didn't use the word Democrat..... but basic understanding of political ideology would have you understand that it was a progressive movement. Plenty of progressives have a lot of their own problems with the Democratic party, just like hard- right conservatives do with the Republican party.
I don’t know much about defamation stuff. This all sounds like a money grab. Wasn’t trump a fed ee at the time. Immunity. Regardless of that what did he say that was false. How do we know it was false at this point. This all sounds dumb
Defund the police. Cori bush etc. the stuff blm was crying for mirrors that of progressives. To claim it’s not left is disingenuous. Or stupid
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It wasn't about left or right, progressive or conservative ideology. It was about race
