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Not sure I’ll be able to keep tonight.I understand why you wouldn't be willing to give a source, but I'm not going to trust that info just because you say it's a fact.
Such a clown post.There is not a highly toxic environment in the locker room.
Indiana has went through decades of the administration not giving a shit about football but somehow you want to place all the blame on CTA.
You can hate the guy, and he’s definitely not beyond criticism, but your anger is misguided.
i doubt they even know we have a program.I thought I felt sorry for Detroit Lions and Cleveland Browns fans, but they are even laughing at our sorry program!
I don't want to disparage the guy any further, but yeah, that's a really bad look. If he's not any more committed to the team than that, good riddance.What bothers me about the QB situation is that Bazelak could have shown that he is a competitor by coming into the Bucket game and performing well. It was an opportunity to show he deserved to remain a starter. Instead, he played poorly and put his name in the portal. The fact that Williams is out next season didn't change his mind.
Program died when Allen hired bell and kept
Penix had multiple season ending injuries. Tuttle had multiple season ending injuries. Williams has had multiple season ending injuries. Donovan played quarterback for about half a season and said I'm not going to do that anymore. Basilac said I'm not going to play behind that line anymore.What bothers me about the QB situation is that Bazelak could have shown that he is a competitor by coming into the Bucket game and performing well. It was an opportunity to show he deserved to remain a starter. Instead, he played poorly and put his name in the portal. The fact that Williams is out next season didn't change his mind.
And what is it now?Allen needs fired tonight. Money be damned. The program will be nothing but smoldering ashes in a couple years.
Good to see you posting here Mrs AllenThis is such an absurd and unfair statement.
I am waiting to hear Bell is fired for a number of reasons but not using TEs in the middle of the passing game is a big one. Barner got two passes in the MSU OT that Bell never ran before after. Not using a talented TE in the passing game except for the flats is probably why Barner is leaving.If the premise that he left for NIL reasons is true, we can give a pass to CTA on this one because he really doesn't have much control over that, he would gladly have paid for Dasan to stay if Indiana had any NIL money. Again, I'm not going to say whether the NIL reason is true or not because I have no idea, but we'll just say it is for the sake of the argument.
Allen does deserve flack for losing AJ Barner and Malachi Holt-Bennett though, I don't believe either has performed well enough to get NIL deals or "transfer up" like McCullough presumably will. If I had to guess now, I think Barner will land at a lower/mid tier P5 program and MHB will land at a lower P5/upper GO5 school, and who knows if they will win the starting job at their new schools. The fact that both are leaving a starting role at a Indiana considering their options, that's a serious concern.
That was fast.He is OU bound according to 24/7
That says he has one crystal ball pick to Oklahoma, not that he committed to OklahomaHe is OU bound according to 24/7
Some of you are making way to big a deal of NIL. Outside the SEC and top 15 thereafter, NIL isn’t flowing. Minny, Purdue, Kansas State….a lot of decent teams aren’t buying teams. They actually have competent coaches.
You were proven wrong just a few minutes ago by Baller23Boogie. NIL is a big deal even for other schools while IU just putters along.Some of you are making way to big a deal of NIL. Outside the SEC and top 15 thereafter, NIL isn’t flowing. Minny, Purdue, Kansas State….a lot of decent teams aren’t buying teams. They actually have competent coaches.
Actually that article didn’t prove much in my opinion (if anything it supported ce36’s point). The article said that MN football players got 30% of the cash but didn’t say what that represented, or how big the pool was, but then went on to mention micky mouse 2k deals (ie I don’t think that the 30% going to MN football players was all that much money).You were proven wrong just a few minutes ago by Baller23Boogie. NIL is a big deal even for other schools while IU just putters along.
But as they all say in their goodbyes that they’ll always be part of the IU family. Just shut up and leave.IU has lost like 5 players today.
It's gonna be another transfer portal team, the new normal.
IU will look like a pro expansion team every year for the foreseeable future. Hard to build that way.
Definitely a pay raise to ND but it was a lateral move in terms of role although to a far prestigious school. I think McCullough is after an OC job that he will eventually parlay into a head coaching gig. I do believe McCullough would have stayed had Allen named him OC and given him full reign of the offense like he did with Bell. Guessing it's better coaching RB's at ND than it is at IU and for that I would agree.I mean, we do have to accept that in 19 of 20 years(or more), ND has a better football team than IU, and there's significantly more $ in the ND football program than there are at IU. I don't know if DMC received a pay raise, but he probably did. I have a ton of issues with CTA, but I really don't think there's much he could've done to keep DMC around other than a way better record in 2021. I don't even think firing Hiller would've been enough to keep him around after the 2-10 season and once he left, his sons were destined to follow.
That's the rumor on the other site. IU NIL company told him Yes and he still left.lol that's oddly specific, not that I would doubt it, he will obviously get NIL money wherever he goes, but what's your source on that info?
I'm honestly okay with Allen not giving DMC the OC position. Obviously DMC is a great coach and having Dasan+Daeh for a couple more years would've been nice, if CTA had an offensive background and could call the plays it would be a different story, but if there's one thing CTA has shown over the last 2 years, it's that he doesn't have a clue how to run an offense.Definitely a pay raise to ND but it was a lateral move in terms of role although to a far prestigious school. I think McCullough is after an OC job that he will eventually parlay into a head coaching gig. I do believe McCullough would have stayed had Allen named him OC and given him full reign of the offense like he did with Bell. Guessing it's better coaching RB's at ND than it is at IU and for that I would agree.
It was definitely a pick your poison type deal, but while Bell definitely has the play-calling experience over DMC, I'm not sure it was a big enough hire to warrant running off your best recruiter who also happened to be the father of two very high prized recruits.I'm honestly okay with Allen not giving DMC the OC position. Obviously DMC is a great coach and having Dasan+Daeh for a couple more years would've been nice, if CTA had an offensive background and could call the plays it would be a different story, but if there's one thing CTA has shown over the last 2 years, it's that he doesn't have a clue how to run an offense.
Even though DMC obviously knows how an offense should function, play calling is a totally different beast and Allen had just fired Sheridan(who also had no experience calling plays prior to being promoted to OC), it would've been pretty bold to go back to a first time play caller, and even though we all have our issues with Bell, he has plenty of calling plays for an offense.
True, but honestly who even knows if DMC wants to be a playcaller. He may want his next step to be a non-playcalling OC like KW was at OSU and then make the move to HC. If that was his logic, then there really was nothing Allen could've done to keep him around. That's all speculation so Ig we'll never know how close DMC was to staying.It was definitely a pick your poison type deal, but while Bell definitely has the play-calling experience over DMC, I'm not sure it was a big enough hire to warrant running off your best recruiter who also happened to be the father of two very high prized recruits.
I think you're naïve if you only think Deland had a hand in recruiting RB's.True, but honestly who even knows if DMC wants to be a playcaller. He may want his next step to be a non-playcalling OC like KW was at OSU and then make the move to HC. If that was his logic, then there really was nothing Allen could've done to keep him around. That's all speculation so Ig we'll never know how close DMC was to staying.
But RB's coach really isn't a very valuable assistant in general, obviously DMC recruited better athletes than Johnson, (Jaylin Lucas's athleticism is single-handedly responsible for three of our TD's this season) but the running game has so much to do with the O-line as we've seen from the abysmal results under the last 3 RB's coaches.
As for his sons, I'm not going to say his sons wouldn't have been valuable parts of our defense for the next three-four years, but outside of Dasan turning into an insane edge rusher(which I suppose still could happen), one or two guys won't drastically improve the results of the unit as a whole. There were so many snaps I watched offenses completely take Dasan out of the play like it was nothing and I really don't think Daeh is in the class of Dasan where the coaches are saying "this kid is so talented, we've just gotta get him on the field". Daeh would've needed some coaching up and I don't really trust our staff to get him to the point where he'd be an elite difference maker in the secondary.
All that to say, we might just disagree, but I don't think the benefits outweighed the risks of promoting DMC to OC.
He's obviously another intelligent football mind in the coaches room, but IMO RBs coach is the least important full time assistant on most FB teams, no matter who holds the position. It's not like there's any result you can point to in 2021 and say "Deland came in and X improved" other than changing athletes in the room. Johnson, DMC, and Hart may have had different drills they thought were more important to emphasize, and their rotation may have differed slightly but by and large, RB is a pretty straightforward position to coach. Maybe DMC would've been more effective as an OC. But I highly doubt that, especially if he didn't have a choice of who his O-line coach would be going into 2021, which was seemingly the case with Bell.I think you're naïve if you only think Deland had a hand in recruiting RB's.
Deland's contributions to the program were much more than that of a position coach. Deland's re-hiring coincided with the single best recruiting class (at least on paper) in program history. I don't believe that to be a coincidence either.He's obviously another intelligent football mind in the coaches room, but IMO RBs coach is the least important full time assistant on most FB teams, no matter who holds the position. It's not like there's any result you can point to in 2021 and say "Deland came in and X improved" other than changing athletes in the room. Johnson, DMC, and Hart may have had different drills they thought were more important to emphasize, and their rotation may have differed slightly but by and large, RB is a pretty straightforward position to coach. Maybe DMC would've been more effective as an OC. But I highly doubt that, especially if he didn't have a choice of who his O-line coach would be going into 2021, which was seemingly the case with Bell.
IMO you're giving him too much credit for recruiting, if you take out literally just his son, the recruiting class is on par with 2021 from an average recruiting rankings standpoint. Obviously DMC had something to do with his son committing, but it's not something he can replicate year after year. Point being, he is not getting credit from me for landing a commitment from Dasan and i've already said he's an above average recruiter.Deland's contributions to the program were much more than that of a position coach. Deland's re-hiring coincided with the single best recruiting class (at least on paper) in program history. I don't believe that to be a coincidence either.
You have not been a fan for long if you you believe this is the worst the program has ever been.This is the worst shape the program has ever been in. That is quite an achievement.
It’s approaching DiNardo level futility and that’s the worst I can recall the program being in over 60 years of watching IU football. 1-11 is not out of the realm next year.You have not been a fan for long if you you believe this is the worst the program has ever been.
It’s approaching DiNardo level futility and that’s the worst I can recall the program being in over 60 years of watching IU football. 1-11 is not out of the realm next year.
I guess I just follow trends. Can't see too many guys jumping at the opportunity to play for a lame duck coach who is only here because he's too expensive to fire. We land a blue chip QB, some veteran offensive lineman, a couple WR who can create separation, multiple edge rushers, on top of safety help, it may change my mind. Until then, put me down for skeptical.Trying to predict any kind of record in December is stupid considering we aren't even remotely close to knowing how any single roster will look like in college football.
I guess I just follow trends. Can't see too many guys jumping at the opportunity to play for a lame duck coach who is only here because he's too expensive to fire. We land a blue chip QB, some veteran offensive lineman, a couple WR who can create separation, multiple edge rushers, on top of safety help, it may change my mind. Until then, put me down for skeptical.
I've seen far better IU teams lose to MAC programs. I don't envision a particularly strong roster this Fall or the Fall after.Being sceptical is fine.
Predicting 1 win in December when the roster isn't remotely set is being disingenuous, especially with Akron and Indiana State on the schedule.