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Judge puts Trump out of business in NY?

I’d say a guy who gets banned constantly and then comes back with dozens off different names posting the same rubbish has more to do with making the board inoperable than taking out the trash when needed.
Be honest - you're not creative enough to think of a clever name. Jealousy.
 
Oh sick burn…. Says the guy who doesn’t understand Barbie because he didn’t see it. Just a way to throw out a misogynistic trope.
And that’s your answer. Lol. Barbie was a great moving with world changing meaning. NOT.
 
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I am not outraged at all. Just pointing out Zeke’s silly answer.
Maybe you're not but many seem to be. I don't get it? It was pretty clever in marketing and its point of view at least for the first 45 minutes or so but it was wearing on my patience by the end. The good result was Margot Robbie was blamed for the box office failures of Amsterdam and Babylon and now she is certified A list movie star who should be safe from criticism.

I like Margot. She grew up in rural Australia and on her first day of school the teacher couldn't read her name and pronounced it as "maggot", which unfortunately became her nickname. I'd say she has safely outgrown that name.
 
Why was it deleted?
Because power corrupts.

It expressed an idea to which some mod was personally opposed.

Since day 1, I always advocated for one rule and one rule only - no personal insults and attacks. But Buzz allowed Rockfish to insult, (the “signal to noise ratio” badge of moderator protection), so the deletion of posts remained an exercise of personal whims of the thought police. It remains so to this day.

Hell, for a while, they had a rule that if you criticized moderators or mod decisions, you could be banned!

All Pegram cared about was the hoops side, and the Cooler was just clicks from elsewhere. His fix was always “I’ll reinstate you if you agree to stay off the Cooler until Buzzz’s ban ends,” which defeated the whole purpose and rewarded the thought police.
 
(Judge Engoron) took particular issue with Trump's claim that the penthouse was 30,000 square feet (2,787 square meters), nearly three times its actual size, resulting in an overvaluation of as much as $207 million.

"A discrepancy of this order of magnitude, by a real estate developer sizing up his own living space of decades, can only be considered fraud," Engoron wrote.

 
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(Judge Engoron) took particular issue with Trump's claim that the penthouse was 30,000 square feet (2,787 square meters), nearly three times its actual size, resulting in an overvaluation of as much as $207 million.

"A discrepancy of this order of magnitude, by a real estate developer sizing up his own living space of decades, can only be considered fraud," Engoron wrote.

Not that simple. Trump could have included other exclusive use areas connected with his condo such as garages, private elevator and lobby, terraces, etc. we already know the judge screwed up Mar a Lago when he adopted the tax value. Tax value must be based on actual use. Market value is usually based on highest and best use. The judge is weak on this. Moreover, the misrepresentation is only one element of actionable fraud. There is more the judge didn’t meaningfully address.
 
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Are there other r/e tycoons that have done the same things Trump has alleged to have done and also been charged? Or is Trump and the Trump Organization the only ones prosecuted under those statutes?
 
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Are there other r/e tycoons that have done the same things Trump has alleged to have done and also been charged? Or is Trump and the Trump Organization the only ones prosecuted under those statutes?
Only the ones who run for President against a Democrat.
 
Ive been on two bank boards. There’s zero chance the banks involved in Trump loans didn’t have their own appraisals done.
Not does the New York statute require a lender to conduct appraisals. The violation occurs when the borrower tries to cheat.

Do you need me to post yet another link to the court's ruling? If so, I'd be surprised -- accountants can normally find such things on their own if they try.
 
Not that simple. Trump could have included other exclusive use areas connected with his condo such as garages, private elevator and lobby, terraces, etc. we already know the judge screwed up Mar a Lago when he adopted the tax value. Tax value must be based on actual use. Market value is usually based on highest and best use. The judge is weak on this. Moreover, the misrepresentation is only one element of actionable fraud. There is more the judge didn’t meaningfully address.
So, are you're telling us Trump submitted all your defense arguments to the New York judge that ruled against him? Didn't think so. Yet you blame the judge for failing to consider them? Sounds like it.

Trump had his own lawyers to submit his defenses. You can't help him now. I enjoy watching you try to explain why he is innocent, using your own personal crap arguments that he never submitted to the judge.

You're a lawyer. What is the term that is applied when a party's lawyer neglects to assert all pertinent defenses to the trial judge?

Maybe you should contact Trump and offer your services to help him sue his attorneys for failing to submit all these defenses you later thought of. If you're lucky, Trump might even pay you.
 
Are there other r/e tycoons that have done the same things Trump has alleged to have done and also been charged? Or is Trump and the Trump Organization the only ones prosecuted under those statutes?
Who cares?

If you get a speeding ticket, can you claim it's ineffective because other speeders never got a ticket? No you can't.
 
Another feeble mind. Outraged at ideas they don’t agree with. I have a book recommendation for you.

It might teach you to engage with the world with a semblance of emotional maturity.
Relax, I don't even know if I saw the post you are referring to.
I was talking about Goat deleting assholes who use multiple accounts.
You know, those worthless POS posters who clutter up the board.
 
I hate to tell you, but that includes many who don't use multiple IDs. So why doesn't it bother you they're not banned?
Dan, I think posters should have the balls to stand behind their posts, not hide behind multiple IDs.
Yes, there are worthless posters, left and right. But some of those are entertainingly stupid.
 
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+ additional accessory sq ft. listed as additions to value.
The listing was for square footage, not for square footage plus accessory square footage. The depths you will sink to in order to never admit being wrong is simply hilarious, for most of us, though likely embarrassing for you.
 
Dan, I think posters should have the balls to stand behind their posts, not hide behind multiple IDs.
Yes, there are worthless posters, left and right. But some of those are entertainingly stupid.
If they're intelligent - and sometimes humorous - posters, I don't care if they're regulars or not.

I don't know you, although I respect your posts, and you don't know me. None of us knows each other, unless we've met in person.

I guess I don't care if they hide behind a single ID or multiple IDs. It really makes no difference, since we don't know them anyway.
 
The listing was for square footage, not for square footage plus accessory square footage. The depths you will sink to in order to never admit being wrong is simply hilarious, for most of us, though likely embarrassing for you.
Stay focused here. We are discussing whether what Trump put on a financial statement is wrong. . But you are discussing the requirements for a MAI appraisal. You are right about the technical part of it, . , but you are also irrelevant.
 
Stay focused here. We are discussing whether what Trump put on a financial statement is wrong. . But you are discussing the requirements for a MAI appraisal. You are right about the technical part of it, . , but you are also irrelevant.
The most accurate of all all of his postings.... Totally irrelevant.
@outside shooter A peer reviewed compilation agree that you are totally irrelevant. Take the bruise and kindly piss of, we don't care.
 
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Best analysis I've seen of the absurdity of this whole charade. Skip to the 1:18:00 mark and then tell me how this case has any merit at all.

 
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Best analysis I've seen of the absurdity of this whole charade. Skip to the 1:18:00 mark and then tell me how this case has any merit at all.

Here's the ruling. It's all explained right here:


Haven't you read the ruling yet?

The trial begins today, so of course the court hasn't yet quantified the dollar amount to be paid. Nor have the Trump defendants appealed yet. So it's possible at the end of the day that the Trump defendants might get a result they accept.

Nonetheless you direct us to listen to a rant from two unknowns who parrot the Trumpers' standard talking points of big banks are victimless, the court system is "weaponized," the judge is "corrupt," etc. That's not very useful.
 
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