My 2nd ex was named Bambi, so I just wanted to make sure. I slur her also, although she sure was nearly magical at perf... I should stop there.
Biden meeting in NY with Adams where violent crime, like in many blue cities, is out of control.
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No one could've seen this coming.
www.foxnews.com
Massive increase in Black Americans murdered was result of defund police movement: experts
Black Americans saw a greater spike in murders in 2020 compared to years prior, and at a higher rate than the national increase.
Who are the racists now?No one could've seen this coming.
Massive increase in Black Americans murdered was result of defund police movement: experts
Black Americans saw a greater spike in murders in 2020 compared to years prior, and at a higher rate than the national increase.
Did you bother reading it?No one could've seen this coming.
Massive increase in Black Americans murdered was result of defund police movement: experts
Black Americans saw a greater spike in murders in 2020 compared to years prior, and at a higher rate than the national increase.
So you would agree that the one 'expert' that made this claim provided zero actual information to back up her opinion, but just said that was her opinion?
And you would also agree that Fox took that 'sexy' and divisive statement, with no facts to support it and used it as the headline to feed the sharks?
And you also believe that there's only a SINGLE factor in play to explain the increased homicides and it is, of course, the defund the police movement? Which, btw, hasn't really happened to any measurable degree and certainly hadn't happened in the thick of things in 2020.
Instead of the 180 degree pivot, we got the 360 degree hokey pokey...and that's what it's all about.
Defund the police as in reduced funding absolutely occurred. So too did a precipitous decline in the number of cops owing to early retirement and resignations at levels never seen before as a direct result of anti cop rhetoric, Dem policies, and the summer of love. That's not debatable.
The reports indeed identify the 12 cities as Albuquerque, New Mexico; Austin, Texas; Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Columbus; Indianapolis; Louisville, Kentucky; Philadelphia; Portland, Oregon; Rochester, New York; St. Paul, Minnesota; Toledo, Ohio and Tucson, Arizona.
But the blame here is misplaced – most of those cities did not substantively cut their 2021 police spending as part of a defunding initiative.
Here's a look at 2021 police funding in each of the other cities mentioned in the news reports:
- In Albuquerque, police spending has increased over the past few years, according to city documents. Instead of defunding the police, the city created an alternative department to answer certain kinds of 911 calls.
- In August 2020, Austin cut its police department budget by $150 million for the following fiscal year – by far the most dramatic cut of any city on this list. Most of the money was reallocated to other priorities, including a "Reimagine Safety Fund."
- In Baton Rouge, police spending has increased over the past few years, according to city documents. Mayor-President Sharon Weston Broome said in June 2020 that she did not plan to defund the police.
- In Columbus, police spending shrank by about $13 million between the 2020 and 2021 fiscal years, according to city documents. The decrease was primarily due to moving some civilian police employees, primarily 911 operators, into another part of the city's public safety department. The number of uniformed officers slightly increased year-over-year.
- Indianapolis police funding increased by about $7 million between the 2020 and 2021 fiscal years. In July 2021, the city allocated an additional $3.3 million for crime prevention.
- Louisville increased police funding in both 2020 and 2021. Mayor Greg Fischer has rebuffed calls to defund the police.
- In June 2020, the Philadelphia City Council diverted $14 million in police funding to another part of the city's budget for the following fiscal year. The deal also canceled a proposed $19 million increase in police funding.
- In June 2020, Rochester cut $3.6 million from its police budget for the following fiscal year. The city also cut the incoming police class by 50%, saving $750,000 for other city initiatives.
- St. Paul cut its police department's budget by more than $750,000 between the 2020 and 2021 fiscal years, according to city documents. The cut was one of several the city made due to a pandemic-related deficit. In December 2021, city council members voted to increase police funding.
- In Toledo, police spending rose by more than $16 million between the 2020 and 2021 fiscal years, according to city documents. Mayor Wade Kapszukiewicz has spoken out against defunding the police.
- In Tucson, police funding increased by about $2 million between the 2020 and 2021 fiscal years, according to city documents. City council members have rejected calls to defund the police.
Someone trying to pin a single cause on something with no facts/evidence is just effing dumb, which is par for the course for some of the most demonstrative posters on this forum, such as @dbmhoosier. It just shows a complete lack of intellect.
Diverted funding is the same thing. The bottom line is cops on the street. Are there more or less. Police departments across the national saw a decrease in beat cops as a result of allocation shifting, early retirements and resignations as a result of Dem policies and/or summer of love anti cop rhetoric
But it had nothing to do with increased gun sales, the pandemic in general putting people in more challenging and stressful lives?
Only a couple of those examples were of diverted funding. Others increased spending or the diversion of the funding was merely a change of org structure for the 911 operators, as it pointed out.
Of the 6 cities, 6 INCREASED police spending and a 7th was the shift of 911 operators from being in the PD to another department, so not a real decrease but an accounting one, mostly.
Those are all Dem cities with Dem mayors, yet the spending went UP not DOWN.
So explain how those facts jive with the Fox News article that was linked and also your assertion that increased homicides are a result of a straight line drawn from defunding the police movement?
I didn't read the article. I'm familiar with the topic. Homicides and violent crime went up as a product of a number of realities: the pandemic, reallocation of resources, bail reform, cops retiring and resigning and not going through the academy, etc. And of course guns are an issue. Cori Bush still supports defunding the police in the most dangerous city in America. Progressives are soft on crime. They find other excuses for it, many of which are true, but ignore the importance of police presence. We've seen it time and time again.
Ahhh...you didn't read the article.
So again, the FACTS presented that I shared specifically debunk half of the examples held up that you agreed were all part of a defund the police mentality. Nevermind the FACTS that the police were not defunded in those examples and were, in fact, funded more.
But hell, facts don't support your view, so ignore them and continue to hold those views. Which, btw, are probably true on some level and in some cases....but this broad brush bullshit that you and many others (both sides) paint with is a big part of our political division and inability to find common ground.
No. I've literally read hundreds of articles on the subject and looked at primary source data. It's been hashed and reshashed in hundreds if not thousands of posts on here with countless articles linked. This isn't an issue of first impression. It's why Biden is now saying FUND the police. Sorry you're late to the party
Biden was never in favor of defunding the police. Any suggestion that he was is misinformed
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Rudy's multi-agency/organization approach to cleaning up NYC was brilliant and a best practice adopted by cities all over the country
Did you notice Hickory laughed at your post? Manchin & Sinema are on an island all alone. The looney left democrats are in charge. The party that discover 200 genders and teaching us to understand pedophiles.
I thought gaetz was teaching you all about pedophiles....probably had Trump as his guest speaker
Biden has taught us all about pedos and your party doing nothing about it. I wonder if the FBI lost the Biden Diary like the Biden Laptop?
Hay, stoll, why did you disappear instead of answering my question? What happens to the migrants after they get off the plane?
Or the Epstein list. Why aren't they arresting the child rapists? I'd like an honest answer from just one person for once on that.
That is a load of crap. They would do something about it if there was any truth to it.
Lol. Everyone knows that they have the Epstein list and buried it.
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