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Israel set to offer fourth dose of COVID-19 vaccine to people over 60

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Israel set to offer fourth dose of COVID-19 vaccine to people over 60


Israel announced on Tuesday that it will offer a fourth dose of the COVID-19 vaccine to people older than 60, amid concern about the spread of the Omicron variant of the coronavirus.

They are doing the same thing here in SG.
 
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Smart government.

What they have done here is that if you insist on not getting your jabs, then the doctors and nurses are assigned to desk roles or non-patient fronting roles.
For unvaxxed civilians, as of the 8th of Dec, if they do get sick from Covid, they will have to pay their own medical expenses.
For breakthrough cases' and others medical costs will be bourned by the gov't.
 
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When political concerns are more important than real life, you can come up with all sorts of crazy rationalization.
Goat is just made only 16% have had boosters. He thinks everyone is a far left winger like himself.



With the Democrat party and media doing everything in their power to scare the shit out of you - are you afraid of the Omnicold variant?

Join @CatturdFan!
 
Goat is just made only 16% have had boosters. He thinks everyone is a far left winger like himself.



With the Democrat party and media doing everything in their power to scare the shit out of you - are you afraid of the Omnicold variant?

Join @CatturdFan!

In the words of a Coolerite: Dumb.
 
Smart government.

What they have done here is that if you insist on not getting your jabs, then the doctors and nurses are assigned to desk roles or non-patient fronting roles.
For unvaxxed civilians, as of the 8th of Dec, if they do get sick from Covid, they will have to pay their own medical expenses.
For breakthrough cases' and others medical costs will be bourned by the gov't.
This has been my hard ass stance for a while now.

Let the insurance companies and govt off the hook for unvaxxed medical care... because hear me out, that's the purpose of the vax.

That's the government contract.

If you don't want it, fine, but it won't be free forever and your insurance won't be on the hook for you purposely refusing.

Similar to having higher rates because you smoke.

I'd let insurance companies sell an addendum Covid policy to the unvaxxed if they are worried about the cost.

Again if I was the supreme ruler.

No money incentives. No endless free support. No after care expenditures like the expensive monoclonal treatment....unless you stepped up, sacked up and got vaxxed first.

How's that for incentive?

No forced vaccinations but it won't be free forever (as we got to get the world vaxxed and I'm not f#$king around with those fighting it. You either want it or not, but the path is rougher if you decline and you get it bad enough to need to be hospitalized.
 
This has been my hard ass stance for a while now.

Let the insurance companies and govt off the hook for unvaxxed medical care... because hear me out, that's the purpose of the vax.

That's the government contract.

If you don't want it, fine, but it won't be free forever and your insurance won't be on the hook for you purposely refusing.

Similar to having higher rates because you smoke.

I'd let insurance companies sell an addendum Covid policy to the unvaxxed if they are worried about the cost.

Again if I was the supreme ruler.

No money incentives. No endless free support. No after care expenditures like the expensive monoclonal treatment....unless you stepped up, sacked up and got vaxxed first.

How's that for incentive?

No forced vaccinations but it won't be free forever (as we got to get the world vaxxed and I'm not f#$king around with those fighting it. You either want it or not, but the path is rougher if you decline and you get it bad enough to need to be hospitalized.

Precisely. Not sure why this pussified supposedly 'non-democratic, police state' of a gov't took so long to implement this policy.
If you believe in what you profess then stand by it including the monetary consequences of it if it does happen.
Otherwise, it's just superficial bullcrap done for 'likes' or affirmation.
 
In the words of a Coolerite: Dumb.
I wouldn't quote that coolerite for anything. One of the goofiest most maladjusted weirdos I've ever read. And your head is up your ass if you don't recognize the deleterious impact the media's constant fear mongering has on people, or you don't live here....

Omnicron doom and gloom with an asterisk at the bottom: seems like a cold - from day 1. The media sensationalizes everything.

I've had Covid, it did very little to me, am fully vaccinated, and will get boosted. Then i am done. No more. Not living in fear; not rushing for a new shot for every variant that emerges unless I see very high hospitalization and death rates for my demo.
 
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I wouldn't quote that coolerite for anything. One of the goofiest most maladjusted weirdos I've ever read. And your head is up your ass if you don't recognize the deleterious impact the media's constant fear mongering has on people, or you don't live here....

Omnicron doom and gloom with an asterisk at the bottom: seems like a cold - from day 1. The media sensationalizes everything.

I've had Covid, am fully vaccinated, and will get boosted. Then i am done. No more.

The truth is we still don't know anything about omicron. Read the two paragraphs below, I have bolded the sentences of concern to me:

South Africa has seen only a modest increase in hospitalizations for severe COVID-19, even 1 month after cases started to explode there. “We’re all still really cautious about that data, but it seems to be holding out,” says virologist Wendy Burgers of the University of Cape Town. Moreover, early signs suggest South Africa’s Omicron wave may not last long. Cases are already decreasing in Gauteng province, the outbreak’s epicenter, which is a bit of a mystery given how transmissible Omicron seems to be, says Trevor Bedford, a bioinformatics specialist at the University of Washington, Seattle, and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. He suspects part of the explanation is that more infections than usual went unnoticed because they were mild or asymptomatic, so the real peak was even larger than official statistics showed.​
But early data from Europe, which has an older population than South Africa, are less hopeful. Based on early hospitalization data, for example, a report by modelers at ICL concluded there are “at most limited changes in severity compared with Delta.” “I don’t know how to square these two things, and that is probably giving me the most pause at the moment,” Bedford says.​
Are we more like Europe or South Africa? We tend to be older, so there is a risk we are more like Europe. But anyone saying this is certainly milder or certainly as bad as Delta is selling something at this point. We don't have a wide range of data in. I am still hopeful it is milder and the European numbers are an abnormality. But hope isn't proof.
 
I wouldn't quote that coolerite for anything. One of the goofiest most maladjusted weirdos I've ever read. And your head is up your ass if you don't recognize the deleterious impact the media's constant fear mongering has on people, or you don't live here....

Omnicron doom and gloom with an asterisk at the bottom: seems like a cold - from day 1. The media sensationalizes everything.

I've had Covid, it did very little to me, am fully vaccinated, and will get boosted. Then i am done. No more. Not living in fear; not rushing for a new shot for every variant that emerges unless I see very high hospitalization and death rates for my demo.
did the fear mongering make you get vaxxed and boosted? what is your point?
 
The truth is we still don't know anything about omicron. Read the two paragraphs below, I have bolded the sentences of concern to me:

South Africa has seen only a modest increase in hospitalizations for severe COVID-19, even 1 month after cases started to explode there. “We’re all still really cautious about that data, but it seems to be holding out,” says virologist Wendy Burgers of the University of Cape Town. Moreover, early signs suggest South Africa’s Omicron wave may not last long. Cases are already decreasing in Gauteng province, the outbreak’s epicenter, which is a bit of a mystery given how transmissible Omicron seems to be, says Trevor Bedford, a bioinformatics specialist at the University of Washington, Seattle, and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. He suspects part of the explanation is that more infections than usual went unnoticed because they were mild or asymptomatic, so the real peak was even larger than official statistics showed.​
But early data from Europe, which has an older population than South Africa, are less hopeful. Based on early hospitalization data, for example, a report by modelers at ICL concluded there are “at most limited changes in severity compared with Delta.” “I don’t know how to square these two things, and that is probably giving me the most pause at the moment,” Bedford says.​
Are we more like Europe or South Africa? We tend to be older, so there is a risk we are more like Europe. But anyone saying this is certainly milder or certainly as bad as Delta is selling something at this point. We don't have a wide range of data in. I am still hopeful it is milder and the European numbers are an abnormality. But hope isn't proof.
That's inapposite to how this was reported based on the info we did have at the time.
 
did the fear mongering make you get vaxxed and boosted? what is your point?

I waited to see the stats from vax. I didn't go early to get it. The point is that the endless fear porn has terrible consequences. The fact is for an obscene number of younger healthy people the endless fear is incongruent with the stats. Hospitalized and dead are overwhelmingly the aged and/or those with comorbidities
 
I waited to see the stats from vax. I didn't go early to get it. The point is that the endless fear porn has terrible consequences. The fact is for an obscene number of younger healthy people the endless fear is incongruent with the stats. Hospitalized and dead are overwhelmingly the aged and/or those with comorbidities
But that ignores the herd immunity angle. Yes, I know we'll never get there, but the fewer carriers the better.
 
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I waited to see the stats from vax. I didn't go early to get it. The point is that the endless fear porn has terrible consequences. The fact is for an obscene number of younger healthy people the endless fear is incongruent with the stats. Hospitalized and dead are overwhelmingly the aged and/or those with comorbidities
fear porn that's a new term, in today's day and age that would apply to a lot more than covid, what are news outlets to do when icu beds are out in hallways ignore it? because your tired of hearing about it
 
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fear porn that's a new term, in today's day and age that would apply to a lot more than covid, what are news outlets to do when icu beds are out in hallways ignore it? because your tired of hearing about it
Report the number of icu beds already occupied by non Covid patients and the additional new Covid patients. It's all in the spin
 
I wouldn't quote that coolerite for anything. One of the goofiest most maladjusted weirdos I've ever read. And your head is up your ass if you don't recognize the deleterious impact the media's constant fear mongering has on people, or you don't live here....

Omnicron doom and gloom with an asterisk at the bottom: seems like a cold - from day 1. The media sensationalizes everything.

I've had Covid, it did very little to me, am fully vaccinated, and will get boosted. Then i am done. No more. Not living in fear; not rushing for a new shot for every variant that emerges unless I see very high hospitalization and death rates for my demo.
I had two shot and am not getting a booster. I got really sick from the shots and am not doing that again. So go ahead let me have it libs tell me how i am anti vax, etc. Anyway the third shot is not the last one they will try and make you get. I guarantee you they will want a 4th one in six months.

I cannot even turn the local news on anymore. All they talk about is covid and covid. But I guess I can see why some still live in fear if they sit around watching the news on tv all the time. It is depressing and fear all wrapped into one. I do not live in fear and never have. I have basically lived my life the last two years not a whole lot different than before. But people gotta do what they gotta do so if living if fear is their deal so be it. I do not force my will on others. It is their business not mine.
 
The truth is we still don't know anything about omicron. Read the two paragraphs below, I have bolded the sentences of concern to me:

South Africa has seen only a modest increase in hospitalizations for severe COVID-19, even 1 month after cases started to explode there. “We’re all still really cautious about that data, but it seems to be holding out,” says virologist Wendy Burgers of the University of Cape Town. Moreover, early signs suggest South Africa’s Omicron wave may not last long. Cases are already decreasing in Gauteng province, the outbreak’s epicenter, which is a bit of a mystery given how transmissible Omicron seems to be, says Trevor Bedford, a bioinformatics specialist at the University of Washington, Seattle, and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. He suspects part of the explanation is that more infections than usual went unnoticed because they were mild or asymptomatic, so the real peak was even larger than official statistics showed.​
But early data from Europe, which has an older population than South Africa, are less hopeful. Based on early hospitalization data, for example, a report by modelers at ICL concluded there are “at most limited changes in severity compared with Delta.” “I don’t know how to square these two things, and that is probably giving me the most pause at the moment,” Bedford says.​
Are we more like Europe or South Africa? We tend to be older, so there is a risk we are more like Europe. But anyone saying this is certainly milder or certainly as bad as Delta is selling something at this point. We don't have a wide range of data in. I am still hopeful it is milder and the European numbers are an abnormality. But hope isn't proof.
Also, it's currently two completely different seasons in Europe and Africa, which might cause some fluctuations as well.
 
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The truth is we still don't know anything about omicron. Read the two paragraphs below, I have bolded the sentences of concern to me:

South Africa has seen only a modest increase in hospitalizations for severe COVID-19, even 1 month after cases started to explode there. “We’re all still really cautious about that data, but it seems to be holding out,” says virologist Wendy Burgers of the University of Cape Town. Moreover, early signs suggest South Africa’s Omicron wave may not last long. Cases are already decreasing in Gauteng province, the outbreak’s epicenter, which is a bit of a mystery given how transmissible Omicron seems to be, says Trevor Bedford, a bioinformatics specialist at the University of Washington, Seattle, and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. He suspects part of the explanation is that more infections than usual went unnoticed because they were mild or asymptomatic, so the real peak was even larger than official statistics showed.​
But early data from Europe, which has an older population than South Africa, are less hopeful. Based on early hospitalization data, for example, a report by modelers at ICL concluded there are “at most limited changes in severity compared with Delta.” “I don’t know how to square these two things, and that is probably giving me the most pause at the moment,” Bedford says.​
Are we more like Europe or South Africa? We tend to be older, so there is a risk we are more like Europe. But anyone saying this is certainly milder or certainly as bad as Delta is selling something at this point. We don't have a wide range of data in. I am still hopeful it is milder and the European numbers are an abnormality. But hope isn't proof.
So what you’re saying is old people should get boosted, mask up, & stay home unless they must go out. Makes sense…
 
I had two shot and am not getting a booster. I got really sick from the shots and am not doing that again. So go ahead let me have it libs tell me how i am anti vax, etc. Anyway the third shot is not the last one they will try and make you get. I guarantee you they will want a 4th one in six months.

I cannot even turn the local news on anymore. All they talk about is covid and covid. But I guess I can see why some still live in fear if they sit around watching the news on tv all the time. It is depressing and fear all wrapped into one. I do not live in fear and never have. I have basically lived my life the last two years not a whole lot different than before. But people gotta do what they gotta do so if living if fear is their deal so be it. I do not force my will on others. It is their business not mine.
Good luck. Its your right, and I hope you don't have to face the potential consequences.

But more importantly...don't be a dick, and go out and be around people, maskless, when you do end up getting symptoms that could be Covid.

How this simple act of common courtesy has become lost in all this Covid BS back and forth, is frustrating as hell to me. You feel sick...I don't give a shit if its Covid, common Cold, or Syphilis, stay away from other people.
 
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Nah. Life is over-rated, not worth protecting.
Well, a fourth round of the same thing seems silly without any evidence that it would actually do anything. I'm totally pro-vax and people that don't get it are idiots. Nonetheless, I'm no Dr. either, but I know that if I had strep throat and I took all the meds they gave me and it didn't clear up, I'd go back to the Dr. and they would not give me more of the same damn thing that didn't work, but try something different. That's where I'm starting to fall off on just more of the same thing that doesn't really protect well against Omicron. Would like to see some data on this mixed vaccine strategy. They say they've been studying it, but there's no news about it.
 
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