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Hoosier Hysterics

I’m not sure what the big deal is. I had some time so I gave it a listen. Nothing I heard seemed crazy, nor changed any opinion I have of MW.

I have a feeling there are a bunch of people here making assumptions without actually listening.
Not defending Woodson, but I don't know who these guys are. Apparently they are in California. Are they IU grads?

I listened to far too much of their podcast. One of these clowns, while recounting some of RMK's bad behavior, stated "He put a cop in a dumpster in Puerto Rico." If this is the level of accuracy of their knowledge of IU basketball I don't understand why anyone would find anything they say credible. Astounding that they managed to embed themselves so deeply in the IU BB program.
 
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For sure. I wouldn’t be surprised if they get caught pocketing some of the funds they raised. Shady and as self centered as it comes. Attention whore to the extreme.
Agree. I don’t give a damn about these guys. It’s how Woodson is talking and acting. He’s not done a damn thing coaching and he’s dissing the AD and running around acting like we’re lucky to have him.

Hell there were people around the bench wearing hats with only the word “Woody” on the them. Not a damn thing about IU.

I hope we finally win this year but Woodson can piss off.
 
lmao ...

because someone on the internet claims it, it must be true.
Listen guy, I heard the Woodson bullying from someone in person who would know, before this hysterics stuff. I don’t give a damn about whether Woodson canned them or not. I do care about him running around telling everyone he will be at IU as long as he chooses to be here.
 
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I do care about him running around telling everyone he will be at IU as long as he chooses to be here.
What if he never said it ... you don't know and never will. So you're basically willing to take a chance of being dishonest because you don't like him.

Got it ... now that I that I know you have extreme personal bias against him, I'll consider that when you post anything about him or basketball in general.

Fair?
 
What if he never said it ... you don't know and never will. So you're basically willing to take a chance of being dishonest because you don't like him.

Got it ... now that I that I know you have extreme personal bias against him, I'll consider that when you post anything about him.

Fair?
Whatever you think.
 
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Agree. I don’t give a damn about these guys. It’s how Woodson is talking and acting. He’s not done a damn thing coaching and he’s dissing the AD and running around acting like we’re lucky to have him.

Hell there were people around the bench wearing hats with only the word “Woody” on the them. Not a damn thing about IU.

I hope we finally win this year but Woodson can piss off.
Woodson is awful…he has zero excuses left for next year. He has never been a great coach anywhere and any capacity.
 
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Woodson is awful…he has zero excuses left for next year. He has never been a great coach anywhere and any capacity.
I wasn’t excited when he was named coach but hoped we’d get lucky. So far the only thing he’s been good at is being a dick.

Maybe he will kill it now that he has unlimited money to buy a team. I won’t hold my breath.
 
Whatever you think.
You just said so .. you have a friend who basically said he had no integrity, with which you obviously agree and that only lets me infer you don't like him. And, because of that bias you are more than willing to post something that may or may not be true as undeniable fact ..

I believe what I know .. actually know. I will never know if he said that or not so I will never say he did it, nor will I ever say he didn't .... the chance of being wrong and spreading lies outweighs any benefit of being right.
 
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You just said so .. you have a friend who basically said he had no integrity, with which you obviously agree and that only lets me infer you don't like him. And, because of that bias you are more than willing to post something that may or may not be true as undeniable fact ..

I believe what I know .. actually know. I will never know if he said that or not so I will never say he did it, nor will I ever say he didn't .... the chance of being wrong and spreading lies outweighs any benefit of being right.
Wait, so what do you know? Do you know him personally? If not, why is your assumption so much better than anybody else? For those that have spent considerable time with him, this wouldn't be out of character.

I'll say this again, I am ok with a sports coach being pompous and self-centered. If it was just that but he was/is successful, it becomes a positive personality trait towards his career. But if you aren't successful and are blind to your own deficiencies let alone lash out at those whose job it is to point those things out......the leash gets tighter. I hope like hell IU wins it all and CMW can tell our boy Jim Coyle to sit on a bed of thorns (hypothetically for this satirical argument, Jim is an innocent bystander) but let's not lose our ability to criticize coach for what he HAS failed to do. Nor should we turn a blind eye to the fact that this type of behavior isn't really out of character for him.
 
Listen guy, I heard the Woodson bullying from someone in person who would know, before this hysterics stuff. I don’t give a damn about whether Woodson canned them or not. I do care about him running around telling everyone he will be at IU as long as he chooses to be here.
“Running around telling everyone”. Lol
You conclude this based upon a single report from a butt hurt self promoter who just lost his stage? Even if he did say it (once) you don’t have the context.

Dumb
 
What if he never said it ... you don't know and never will. So you're basically willing to take a chance of being dishonest because you don't like him.

Got it ... now that I that I know you have extreme personal bias against him, I'll consider that when you post anything about him or basketball in general.

Fair?
Hold on just one goddamn minute here. The Hysterics can go **** themselves as far as I’m concerned, but Woody essentially made that statement on Senior Day. You’re just gaslighting us with posts like this now…
 
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To quote Jack Nicholson “you can’t handle the truth”.
I STRONGLY suggest you actually listen to their podcast before passing judgement.
And Evans, who has given more to the program than any of us, has been nothing but objective and honest when he’s been on their podcast
 
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Here's the problem with everyone saying the hysterics can't be trusted with what they said..

They are still running events for Indiana programs. If they were lying about what happened, do you think IU would let them continue to run these events? I certainly don't, yet they are.

Kind of makes me think they are telling the truth here.
 
Here's the problem with everyone saying the hysterics can't be trusted with what they said..

They are still running events for Indiana programs. If they were lying about what happened, do you think IU would let them continue to run these events? I certainly don't, yet they are.

Kind of makes me think they are telling the truth here.
They will be blackballed soon from everything. This was the start of their demise. Thank god.

Eric can’t help himself. He needs attention and will keep bringing stuff up and eventually IU will step in and X him.
 
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Here's the problem with everyone saying the hysterics can't be trusted with what they said..

They are still running events for Indiana programs. If they were lying about what happened, do you think IU would let them continue to run these events? I certainly don't, yet they are.

Kind of makes me think they are telling the truth here.
I'll stand by my statement that I haven't trusted them in the past and don't now. What have they done to earn my trust? They badgered recruits on Twitter. They've tried to get a recruit on a visit to bad mouth other schools. They promised to be transparent about their use NIL funds and yet haven't provided any kind of accounting, just expect you to take them at their word.
 
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I'll stand by my statement that I haven't trusted them in the past and don't now. What have they done to earn my trust? They badgered recruits on Twitter. They've tried to get a recruit on a visit to bad mouth other schools. They promised to be transparent about their use NIL funds and yet haven't provided any kind of accounting, just expect you to take them at their word.

All that is beyond fair.

All I'm saying is that they had this meeting, then had the AD on AFTER it took place and are still doing other events besides the men's basketball stuff.

If they were lying about what happened, I have a hard time believing any of that would have or would be happening.
 
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They will be blackballed soon from everything. This was the start of their demise. Thank god.

Eric can’t help himself. He needs attention and will keep bringing stuff up and eventually IU will step in and X him.

Scott Dolson was on the pod just a couple weeks ago.

I don't think the university is shutting them out.
 
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Scott Dolson was on the pod just a couple weeks ago.

I don't think the university is shutting them out.
Let's be real,part of the reason Woodson is booting them,is because what they did help with in NIL,is no longer needed,with the vast majority coming from the few super fans/alumni who bankrolled the off-season. Why deal with their bs if you don't need it?
 
I'll stand by my statement that I haven't trusted them in the past and don't now. What have they done to earn my trust? They badgered recruits on Twitter. They've tried to get a recruit on a visit to bad mouth other schools. They promised to be transparent about their use NIL funds and yet haven't provided any kind of accounting, just expect you to take them at their word.
I called one of their clingers out on twitter about transparency. He kept asking for specifics etc. never answered the question. He finally blocked me.
 
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Let's be real,part of the reason Woodson is booting them,is because what they did help with in NIL,is no longer needed,with the vast majority coming from the few super fans/alumni who bankrolled the off-season. Why deal with their bs if you don't need it?

That is one of the dumbest things I've read about this situation.

You think they are getting cut off because they don't need the NIL they are bringing in because we already have enough? When is there ever enough NIL?

Again, I could care less that they're getting cut off, but let's be real why they're getting cut off. They're getting cut off because they were critical of Woodson and had a guest on that was critical of him.
 
I called one of their clingers out on twitter about transparency. He kept asking for specifics etc. never answered the question. He finally blocked me.
Think how shitty so many of those peegsters are right now. The amount of $100 donations some of those idiots gave to them for sure added up. They were like the fundraisers that were so pushy you wanted to not give to charity anymore.

Probably paid for some of their play dates to Btown!
 
That is one of the dumbest things I've read about this situation.

You think they are getting cut off because they don't need the NIL they are bringing in because we already have enough? When is there ever enough NIL?

Again, I could care less that they're getting cut off, but let's be real why they're getting cut off. They're getting cut off because they were critical of Woodson and had a guest on that was critical of him.
Oh I for sure think Woody felt comfortable doing this knowing fully well he will be taken care from NIL as long as the current rules are in place. He legit has a blank check. Pretty wild. But the rules right now are there is no limit outside donors can do. So we will beat everyones offer for players we want, and did just that.

Ballo actually went in too low! It is insane how crazy this has got and how fast.
 
I’m pretty sure HH collective donors are individual fans — peegsters, their podcast listeners, whoever goes to their events, and randos that don’t know about HC/H4G. HH don’t have any whales or exclusive sources of money.

If needed, the fans that give to HH will just shift to H4G or HC. Allegiance is to IU, not HH, meaning the NIL impact is probably pretty small.
 
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Oh I for sure think Woody felt comfortable doing this knowing fully well he will be taken care from NIL as long as the current rules are in place. He legit has a blank check. Pretty wild. But the rules right now are there is no limit outside donors can do. So we will beat everyones offer for players we want, and did just that.

Ballo actually went in too low! It is insane how crazy this has got and how fast.

I understand that Woody knew he was going to lose their NIL, but that wasn't the reason why he cut them lose.

Lets be real about the situation and why it happened.
 
I understand that Woody knew he was going to lose their NIL, but that wasn't the reason why he cut them lose.

Lets be real about the situation and why it happened.
Let’s be real that this was a final straw. Rumblings came out before the Evans stuff 2 years ago. They just can’t help themselves..or should I say they did “help themselves”. Not many have come out in favor of those clowns. The only few that did are paid or stupid people who don’t know any better.
 
If they keep doing diarrhea they will. Wait until the title 9 clarification comes down. They won’t need those turds anymore. I’d keep them far away. IU has held their collective noses long enough.

That's you though.

If they are bringing NIL to the women's basketball and volleyball programs for example, I don't think they are going to get cut off because that's a recruiting tool for the coaches to use.

There are a lot of people that don't like them, but they have a lot of people that do and will continue to support them. It's just the natural of what's going on.
 
Let’s be real that this was a final straw. Rumblings came out before the Evans stuff 2 years ago. They just can’t help themselves..or should I say they did “help themselves”. Not many have come out in favor of those clowns. The only few that did are paid or stupid people who don’t know any better.

You literally just hit the nail on its head.

They pay people, so they're going to continue to do things for programs at Indiana. It's what it is.

Coaches that don't get a lot of NIL aren't going to cut them off when they offer to cut deals for their players.
 
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That's you though.

If they are bringing NIL to the women's basketball and volleyball programs for example, I don't think they are going to get cut off because that's a recruiting tool for the coaches to use.

There are a lot of people that don't like them, but they have a lot of people that do and will continue to support them. It's just the natural of what's going on.
They got their money from the men’s program. Now that they won’t be the focus of their bread and butter they won’t have the funds. Wait and see. Not sure how you don’t see that.
 
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