From the “You can’t make this up file”

[AFreshPerspective]

Biden administration resumes border wall construction - Roll Call

The Department of Homeland Security has resumed Trump-era border wall construction, despite a previous declaration ending border emergency.

rollcall.com

“There is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States in the project areas”
- Mayorkas

I haven’t done the NYT crossword in a while so forgive me, but does anyone know another word for a physical barrier meant to keep people out?

 

[IUCrazy2]

Biden administration resumes border wall construction - Roll Call

The Department of Homeland Security has resumed Trump-era border wall construction, despite a previous declaration ending border emergency.

rollcall.com

“There is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States in the project areas”
- Mayorkas

I haven’t done the NYT crossword in a while so forgive me, but does anyone know another word for a physical barrier meant to keep people out?

Racist?

 

[Univee2]

Biden administration resumes border wall construction - Roll Call

The Department of Homeland Security has resumed Trump-era border wall construction, despite a previous declaration ending border emergency.

rollcall.com

“There is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States in the project areas”
- Mayorkas

I haven’t done the NYT crossword in a while so forgive me, but does anyone know another word for a physical barrier meant to keep people out?

Fart?

 

[IU_Hickory]

Is Mexico paying for it?

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Biden administration resumes border wall construction - Roll Call

The Department of Homeland Security has resumed Trump-era border wall construction, despite a previous declaration ending border emergency.

rollcall.com

“There is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States in the project areas”
- Mayorkas

I haven’t done the NYT crossword in a while so forgive me, but does anyone know another word for a physical barrier meant to keep people out?

'Acute and immediate need'.
The hypocrisy is neverending.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Polling must show that they need to do this. Announce it, not actually build it.

 

[All4You]

A link from the wayback machine...

https://fb.watch/nuFsdbjKd9/

Not one more foot...

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Polling must show that they need to do this. Announce it, not actually build it.

^^^^^^^^^^ Just like that last 50 years. Polling says we need a lot more talk and a lot less actually doing it.

 

[TomEric4756]

Well just plugging the holes in the existing wall makes it easier to plan CBP deployments.

It possibly also foregoes need for HR 2 … which may have additional undesirable content.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Briben just commented that he is building some wall. Then asked if he thinks walls work, he said " NO"

Now that is leadership, DC style.

 

[Bloom.]

Racist?

What made it bigoted was the insinuation these people are criminals, while overlooking more drugs flow into the US via ports than over the border.

Of course, Mexico was a little offended Trump used them for political points as if they were going to pay for it all.

 

[Bloom.]

Polling must show that they need to do this. Announce it, not actually build it.

Like the previous pResident?

 

[Marvin the Martian]

'Acute and immediate need'.
The hypocrisy is neverending.

Words you are not used to, you are right. Everyone can drive out and look at the Rockies. People went over/around/through in wagons with kids risking wild animals and Native tribes. Why would anyone think 20 miles of some foot wide wall would stop anyone today?

 

[NewKidsOnTheBlock]

Words you are not used to, you are right. Everyone can drive out and look at the Rockies. People went over/around/through in wagons with kids risking wild animals and Native tribes. Why would anyone think 20 miles of some foot wide wall would stop anyone today?

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills, when I watch leftists incessantly make this point you are making.


A physical barrier is preferable to no physical barrier. Can we not all just agree on that? Or are Democrats really that hopelessly partisan?

No it’s not the complete solution. But it’s important.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Words you are not used to, you are right. Everyone can drive out and look at the Rockies. People went over/around/through in wagons with kids risking wild animals and Native tribes. Why would anyone think 20 miles of some foot wide wall would stop anyone today?

So Mayorkas is disingenuous and 'knows better' than to ever build the 'physical barriers''...?

 

[Bloom.]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills, when I watch leftists incessantly make this point you are making.


A physical barrier is preferable to no physical barrier. Can we not all just agree on that? Or are Democrats really that hopelessly partisan?

No it’s not the complete solution. But it’s important.

Kind of like gun control laws.

 

[NewKidsOnTheBlock]

Kind of like gun control laws.

Non responsive. If you’re not able to have an adult discussion about immigration, you need to leave the thread. Now.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

So Mayorkas is disingenuous and 'knows better' than to ever build the 'physical barriers''...?

Yes

 

[IUCrazy2]

What made it bigoted was the insinuation these people are criminals, while overlooking more drugs flow into the US via ports than over the border.

Of course, Mexico was a little offended Trump used them for political points as if they were going to pay for it all.

It was kind of a joke but I apparently pushed a button.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

What made it bigoted was the insinuation these people are criminals, while overlooking more drugs flow into the US via ports than over the border.

Of course, Mexico was a little offended Trump used them for political points as if they were going to pay for it all.

Hey....look over there...!!
Pitiful.....

 

[hookyIU1990]

Like the previous pResident?

And the one before him and the one before him. They all do it.

Kind of like gun control laws.

A lot like that. We need to enforce current laws regarding both guns and immigration.

 

[Bloom.]

Non responsive. If you’re not able to have an adult discussion about immigration, you need to leave the thread. Now.

LOL

 

[Bloom.]

And the one before him and the one before him. They all do it.


A lot like that. We need to enforce current laws regarding both guns and immigration.

Everyone who owns an AR15 is a murderer. If we're going prejudice people, why stop at the brown people crossing the border.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills, when I watch leftists incessantly make this point you are making.


A physical barrier is preferable to no physical barrier. Can we not all just agree on that? Or are Democrats really that hopelessly partisan?

No it’s not the complete solution. But it’s important.

What percentage of crosses do you think are stopped by a 20 mile wall? 1%, 10, 50? It seems to me to be very low.

There are 2 ways to greatly reduce it, used in conjunction. 1) tremendous pressure on those countries to be liveable. Of course Venezuela is a problem and won't change since their reason for existing is to be our opposite.

We need more drones, more people. Flood the area with thermal imaging drones and patrols with dogs.

We need to pressure Mexico to arrest the people running the business of moving people to the US.

If I thought a wall worked, I would have no problem. The only reason the Berlin Wall worked was the machine guns present. An unmanned wall wouldn't have done much. Boots on the ground win wars.

Maybe a wall all the way across would work, maybe. But it is very costly, Mexico won't pay for it. And if we built it, cartels would set to work blowing up sections.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Everyone who owns an AR15 is a murderer. If we're going prejudice people, why stop at the brown people crossing the border.

Wow! So happy I don't own an AR platform...

 

[Bloom.]

It was kind of a joke but I apparently pushed a button.

In fairness, someone was going to bring it up at some point. The distinction still applies.

There are those who think unfettered immigration is bad for this country. We don't need to prejudice those who come across in ways meant to strike fear into the minds of gullible idiots. Trump courted the bigoted and the stupid, and they responded.

 

[DontComeAroundMuch]

What percentage of crosses do you think are stopped by a 20 mile wall? 1%, 10, 50? It seems to me to be very low.

That question misses the point. It’s part of a larger security strategy that encompasses the stuff you mention as well as smart policy like remain in Mexico.

The cost is negligible. We’ve spent five walls worth of money trying to defend Ukraine’s borders. Compared to what usually gets funded and wasted in the omnibus shit shows that come out of Washington, a wall is extremely practical.

 

[Bloom.]

What percentage of crosses do you think are stopped by a 20 mile wall? 1%, 10, 50? It seems to me to be very low.

There are 2 ways to greatly reduce it, used in conjunction. 1) tremendous pressure on those countries to be liveable. Of course Venezuela is a problem and won't change since their reason for existing is to be our opposite.

We need more drones, more people. Flood the area with thermal imaging drones and patrols with dogs.

We need to pressure Mexico to arrest the people running the business of moving people to the US.

If I thought a wall worked, I would have no problem. The only reason the Berlin Wall worked was the machine guns present. An unmanned wall wouldn't have done much. Boots on the ground win wars.

It wouldn't have to be unmanned, but a wall would be preventative. With today's construction, surveillance and sensor technology, today's wall would be tougher to breach than yesterday's wall.

Maybe a wall all the way across would work, maybe. But it is very costly, Mexico won't pay for it. And if we built it, cartels would set to work blowing up sections.

There would be ways to react quickly, if not sniff it out before such an explosive was activated. Something like that would certainly draw attention. I'd say at that point, Mexico would take an active interest over fear of it being an attack.

 

[Bloom.]

Wow! So happy I don't own an AR platform...

We all are. Thank you.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Everyone who owns an AR15 is a murderer. If we're going prejudice people, why stop at the brown people crossing the border.

You keep on keeping on, Sparky.

The point was obviously lost on you. Politicians make announcements that will help their re-election then never execute on the subject of the announcement. This "construction of a physical barrier", aka a wall, is just another example.

Smear someone else as a bigot who dislikes brown people. I said nothing of the sort.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Shame on you Biden voters... shame, shame, shame...

 

[IU_Hickory]

What percentage of crosses do you think are stopped by a 20 mile wall? 1%, 10, 50? It seems to me to be very low.

There are 2 ways to greatly reduce it, used in conjunction. 1) tremendous pressure on those countries to be liveable. Of course Venezuela is a problem and won't change since their reason for existing is to be our opposite.

We need more drones, more people. Flood the area with thermal imaging drones and patrols with dogs.

We need to pressure Mexico to arrest the people running the business of moving people to the US.

If I thought a wall worked, I would have no problem. The only reason the Berlin Wall worked was the machine guns present. An unmanned wall wouldn't have done much. Boots on the ground win wars.

Maybe a wall all the way across would work, maybe. But it is very costly, Mexico won't pay for it. And if we built it, cartels would set to work blowing up sections.

Yup and I don't really think an unmanned wall all the way across would solve much given the possibility of tunneling, climbing and boats.

Then there are migrating animals that would be effected (probably already effected).

 

[Marvin the Martian]

That question misses the point. It’s part of a larger security strategy that encompasses the stuff you mention as well as smart policy like remain in Mexico.

The cost is negligible. We’ve spent five walls worth of money trying to defend Ukraine’s borders. Compared to what usually gets funded and wasted in the omnibus shit shows that come out of Washington, a wall is extremely practical.

Suppose I had a system that could keep 1 in a hundred kids who drop out of school in school, would you vote for $900,000,000 for it? Would you if it stopped all dropouts? Success rate matters.

I might be wrong, maybe 20 miles will slam the door shut. I just don't see it and haven't seen advocates suggest it.

 

[IU_Hickory]

Shame on you Biden voters... shame, shame, shame...

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our other choice was Grab Em By the Pussy Trump.

So, no shame here. i would make that choice again in a heartbeat.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

What percentage of crosses do you think are stopped by a 20 mile wall? 1%, 10, 50? It seems to me to be very low.

There are 2 ways to greatly reduce it, used in conjunction. 1) tremendous pressure on those countries to be liveable. Of course Venezuela is a problem and won't change since their reason for existing is to be our opposite.

We need more drones, more people. Flood the area with thermal imaging drones and patrols with dogs.

We need to pressure Mexico to arrest the people running the business of moving people to the US.

If I thought a wall worked, I would have no problem. The only reason the Berlin Wall worked was the machine guns present. An unmanned wall wouldn't have done much. Boots on the ground win wars.

Maybe a wall all the way across would work, maybe. But it is very costly, Mexico won't pay for it. And if we built it, cartels would set to work blowing up sections.

It wouldn't have to be unmanned, but a wall would be preventative. With today's construction, surveillance and sensor technology, today's wall would be tougher to breach than yesterday's wall.


There would be ways to react quickly, if not sniff it out before such an explosive was activated. Something like that would certainly draw attention. I'd say at that point, Mexico would take an active interest over fear of it being an attack.

This seems like a serious 180 in liberal stance.

 

[IU_Hickory]

This seems like a serious 180 in liberal stance.

Marvin's stance wasn't any different than the average liberal stance

And Bloom's stance doesn't necessary mean it is now the liberal stance as a whole. I would still bet most liberals don't see walls as an effective (or even cost effective) solution

 

[Bloom.]

You keep on keeping on, Sparky.

The point was obviously lost on you. Politicians make announcements that will help their re-election then never execute on the subject of the announcement. This "construction of a physical barrier", aka a wall, is just another example.

Smear someone else as a bigot who dislikes brown people. I said nothing of the sort.

I didn't say you did. Just drawing parallels to prejudicial arguments made by Trump.

No point was lost on me, especially when the wall was promised 8 years ago.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Shame on you Biden voters... shame, shame, shame...

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You should hear what buck sexton and clay Travis are saying. They are DESTROYING the Dems with their Mickey Mouse operation. When are we going to put adults in office Dbm?

 

[DontComeAroundMuch]

Suppose I had a system that could keep 1 in a hundred kids who drop out of school in school, would you vote for $900,000,000 for it? Would you if it stopped all dropouts? Success rate matters.

I might be wrong, maybe 20 miles will slam the door shut. I just don't see it and haven't seen advocates suggest it.

The effectiveness is most likely incalculable. But we know as a matter of common sense and history that walls are effective. I’ve spoken a lot about deterrence on this board recently, but most of a walls value is as part of the larger security posture that would-be migrants recognize and make alternative decisions because of.

When you have a deliberately weak security posture (like this administration) the results are predictable.

How many people would walk across your lawn if you didn’t have a fence (if you have one)? Who knows. Why do people even have fences around their houses? The average human could scale or bypass them easily.

But it’s a recognition that this is property/ land on which you are not welcome. The effect that message has on border crossings is incalculable, but it isn’t nothing as evidenced by the difference between the Trump and Biden administrations.

 

[Bloom.]

Marvin's stance wasn't any different than the average liberal stance

And Bloom's stance doesn't necessary mean it is now the liberal stance as a whole. I would still bet most liberals don't see walls as an effective (or even cost effective) solution

It probably does to people who need labels.