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That's the new rallying cry for the Trump campaign. He starts every rally with a solemn invitation to stand for the presentation of the National Anthem by the "horribly mistreated Jan 6 hostages. He recorded their performance over a cell phone and just so you know the type of people we're dealing with here, the "hostage" that held the cell phone while he and his fellow inmates sang to Trump was the man who attacked Brian Sicknick. In Jan he was sentenced to 80 months for that attack...

So on March 22, Trump made this post on his Truth Social account. It dealt with a prayer vigil for the hostages, organized by Ashli Babbitt's mother...

I don't think this link will expose you to a computer virus. But Caveat Emptor... ;)


Since we've had some posts on this board regarding this subject I thought it might be interesting to delve into who these "poor,mistreated hostages" are...

There are 29 "hostages" in the DC jail, and the following quote might be applicable to any one of them. So see if you can figure out who it came from...

"The government is afraid of the guns people have
because they have to have control of the people at all times.
Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people.
You give them an inch and they take a mile.

I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist
government. The government is continually growing bigger
and more powerful, and the people need to prepare
to defend themselves against government control."


If you want the answer to where the quote came from as well as more details and context, you can find it here...
 
That's the new rallying cry for the Trump campaign. He starts every rally with a solemn invitation to stand for the presentation of the National Anthem by the "horribly mistreated Jan 6 hostages. He recorded their performance over a cell phone and just so you know the type of people we're dealing with here, the "hostage" that held the cell phone while he and his fellow inmates sang to Trump was the man who attacked Brian Sicknick. In Jan he was sentenced to 80 months for that attack...

So on March 22, Trump made this post on his Truth Social account. It dealt with a prayer vigil for the hostages, organized by Ashli Babbitt's mother...

I don't think this link will expose you to a computer virus. But Caveat Emptor... ;)


Since we've had some posts on this board regarding this subject I thought it might be interesting to delve into who these "poor,mistreated hostages" are...

There are 29 "hostages" in the DC jail, and the following quote might be applicable to any one of them. So see if you can figure out who it came from...

"The government is afraid of the guns people have
because they have to have control of the people at all times.
Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people.
You give them an inch and they take a mile.

I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist
government. The government is continually growing bigger
and more powerful, and the people need to prepare
to defend themselves against government control."


If you want the answer to where the quote came from as well as more details and context, you can find it here...
His sickening spin on January 6 makes me want to puke.

Over 90% of the jailed Jan 6 criminals were convicted of assaulting cops. 140 cops were injured that day, some seriously. Several died by suicide in the weeks that followed. And Donald von Shitzinpantz wants to make the J6 thugs/felons martyrs. They're "honored" at the start of Trump rallies. What a fvcking disgrace.
 
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If I was to help the Biden campaign I’d recommend highlighting this. He’s calling convicted criminals that damaged the Capitol and injured Capitol police officers on January 6 2021 patriots and hostages and promises to pardon them all. That is disgusting and will not fly with law and order Republicans or Republican leaning Independents.

This is indefensible but Trumpsters will try to defend him.
 
His sickening spin on January 6 makes me want to puke.

Over 90% of the jailed Jan 6 criminals were convicted of assaulting cops. 140 cops were injured that day, some seriously. Several died by suicide in the weeks that followed. And Donald von Shitzinpantz wants to make the J6 thugs/felons martyrs. They're "honored" at the start of Trump rallies. What a fvcking disgrace.
Attributing those suicides to the participants of Jan 6 is despicable. No one is responsible for their deaths but them. You don’t know any better than my dog why they did it, & neither do I. It certainly may have been due to trauma from what rioters did to them, but it could have been any number of other things, perhaps even their own actions. Are suicide rates comparable in cities that had violent BLM riots?
 
Attributing those suicides to the participants of Jan 6 is despicable. No one is responsible for their deaths but them. You don’t know any better than my dog why they did it, & neither do I. It certainly may have been due to trauma from what rioters did to them, but it could have been any number of other things, perhaps even their own actions. Are suicide rates comparable in cities that had violent BLM riots?
Yea the timing was just coincidence lmao
 
You come on here and spout rhetoric like J6 criminals are dangerous to the public, meanwhile 21 time felons roam free killing cops? Criminals with huge rap sheets continue crime sprees and you worry about J6 people.

Why don't you at lease face the music. The country continues to spiral out of control, and this is the discussion. Every 100 days we go 1 trillion more in debt.

IDC who is in office how is anyone going to fix that. The next establishment is inheriting this. You can’t up tax on people credit card debt is at an all time high. The rich, AS EVIDENCED, will leave high tax areas something we’ve known all along. They are not only leaving blue states due to crime, but high taxes and regulations make it easy for them to go elsewhere.

We keep sending billions to corrupt foreign countries for wars we have no business funding.

The left policies have brought utter chaos to blue cities while criminals roam free daily and rob, kill, and rape innocents while the media remains silent. Hell in New York the National Guard was called in and people are still being robbed, raped, and killed.

Immigrants kill, rape, commit crimes, get funded, food, housing and spit it back in our face meanwhile our veterans roam the streets without, while the media remains silent. How are we funding that there are how many million now???

Squatters rights are out of control, and social media lets leader criminals use their platforms as a means to give illegals instructions on how to take control of citizens properties while the media remains silent.

Without mentioning a ton of what I believe is politically charged actions by many 3 letter government agencies including the msm how is this going to change.

Someone explain to me how we are going to stop the debt, clean up these blue cities that look like hell holes, incarcerate criminals, and get us back on track. If it continues at this pace this country will become unrecognizable. It already is in some places.
 
You come on here and spout rhetoric like J6 criminals are dangerous to the public, meanwhile 21 time felons roam free killing cops? Criminals with huge rap sheets continue crime sprees and you worry about J6 people.

Why don't you at lease face the music. The country continues to spiral out of control, and this is the discussion. Every 100 days we go 1 trillion more in debt.

IDC who is in office how is anyone going to fix that. The next establishment is inheriting this. You can’t up tax on people credit card debt is at an all time high. The rich, AS EVIDENCED, will leave high tax areas something we’ve known all along. They are not only leaving blue states due to crime, but high taxes and regulations make it easy for them to go elsewhere.

We keep sending billions to corrupt foreign countries for wars we have no business funding.

The left policies have brought utter chaos to blue cities while criminals roam free daily and rob, kill, and rape innocents while the media remains silent. Hell in New York the National Guard was called in and people are still being robbed, raped, and killed.

Immigrants kill, rape, commit crimes, get funded, food, housing and spit it back in our face meanwhile our veterans roam the streets without, while the media remains silent. How are we funding that there are how many million now???

Squatters rights are out of control, and social media lets leader criminals use their platforms as a means to give illegals instructions on how to take control of citizens properties while the media remains silent.

Without mentioning a ton of what I believe is politically charged actions by many 3 letter government agencies including the msm how is this going to change.

Someone explain to me how we are going to stop the debt, clean up these blue cities that look like hell holes, incarcerate criminals, and get us back on track. If it continues at this pace this country will become unrecognizable. It already is in some places.
Take a step back from your partisan propaganda for a second and just answer the following question.

Should j6ers, who attacked DC and police officers, be called hostages?

No yabbuts. Yes or no
 
Attributing those suicides to the participants of Jan 6 is despicable. No one is responsible for their deaths but them. You don’t know any better than my dog why they did it, & neither do I. It certainly may have been due to trauma from what rioters did to them, but it could have been any number of other things, perhaps even their own actions. Are suicide rates comparable in cities that had violent BLM riots?
You won't do it but you should read some of these cops' stories and learn about PTSD.

I'll say it again. Trump glorifying cop-beaters is a fvcking disgrace. So is anyone who twists themselves into a pretzel trying to defend him.
 
You won't do it but you should read some of these cops' stories and learn about PTSD.

I'll say it again. Trump glorifying cop-beaters is a fvcking disgrace. So is anyone who twists themselves into a pretzel trying to defend him.
You may have missed my question, but what differentiates the police involved here from those that were in service during BLM riots, or are their suicide rates comparable?
 
You come on here and spout rhetoric like J6 criminals are dangerous to the public, meanwhile 21 time felons roam free killing cops? Criminals with huge rap sheets continue crime sprees and you worry about J6 people.

Why don't you at lease face the music. The country continues to spiral out of control, and this is the discussion. Every 100 days we go 1 trillion more in debt.

IDC who is in office how is anyone going to fix that. The next establishment is inheriting this. You can’t up tax on people credit card debt is at an all time high. The rich, AS EVIDENCED, will leave high tax areas something we’ve known all along. They are not only leaving blue states due to crime, but high taxes and regulations make it easy for them to go elsewhere.

We keep sending billions to corrupt foreign countries for wars we have no business funding.

The left policies have brought utter chaos to blue cities while criminals roam free daily and rob, kill, and rape innocents while the media remains silent. Hell in New York the National Guard was called in and people are still being robbed, raped, and killed.

Immigrants kill, rape, commit crimes, get funded, food, housing and spit it back in our face meanwhile our veterans roam the streets without, while the media remains silent. How are we funding that there are how many million now???

Squatters rights are out of control, and social media lets leader criminals use their platforms as a means to give illegals instructions on how to take control of citizens properties while the media remains silent.

Without mentioning a ton of what I believe is politically charged actions by many 3 letter government agencies including the msm how is this going to change.

Someone explain to me how we are going to stop the debt, clean up these blue cities that look like hell holes, incarcerate criminals, and get us back on track. If it continues at this pace this country will become unrecognizable. It already is in some places.
No. I come on here calling out a POS presidential candidate who glorifies cop-beaters.

Nothing in your deflect/distract post speaks to that point.
 
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Take a step back from your partisan propaganda for a second and just answer the following question.

Should j6ers, who attacked DC and police officers, be called hostages?

No yabbuts. Yes or no
No he is correct. In a board of yabbuts you worry over a mosquito bite compared to stage 4 cancer. With re to blm in stl alone 4 cops were shot and a retired cpt killed. One small city. Over a false narrative pushed by the left.

The left is scary dangerous. From soros and progressive DAs bail projects attacks on cops defunding police to the endless bs of manufactured grievances to open borders.

Trump is awful. We’d all be better off If he has a heart attack. His take on Jan 6 is awful and wrong.

But comparing trump and Jan 6 to the Dems is a light drizzle to a category 5 hurricane.
 
No. I come on here calling out a POS presidential candidate who glorifies cop-beaters.

Nothing in your deflect/distract post speaks to that point.
My issue isn’t what you said about Trump, it’s blaming Jan 6 participants for suicides of policeman. You brought it up in your op, so I’m not distracting from anything…
 
Once again, Trump is praising cop-beaters. That was my primary point. What do you think about that?
I think you are unfairly generalizing. I haven’t seen anyone defend cop beaters here, have you? I have said repeatedly I’m not taking issue with that, I’m exploring your argument that Jan 6 participants are responsible for the suicides of these police, relative to other similar situations. I can understand why you would want to avoid that discussion.😕
 
Do you have a brain? If so, use it. Who is defending BLM rioters? Who is glorifying them? Stop with your bullshit whatabouts.
The distinction you miss is the left and the administration’s contribution to and fomenting re blm riots. Harris tweeting cops are murderers etc. The dem’s backing of blm predicated on a false narrative is frightening. Your personal animus for trump is continuing to color your objectivity. These are two terrible candidates.
 
The distinction you miss is the left and the administration’s contribution to and fomenting re blm riots. Harris tweeting cops are murderers etc. The dem’s backing of blm predicated on a false narrative is frightening. Your personal animus for trump is continuing to color your objectivity. These are two terrible candidates.
Like I posted above IDC who walks into this mess its unfixable. The only thing Trump may be able to fix is the extreme politically leaning 3 letter agencies.

Budget??? Impossible to fix.

Several times during the summer of love Trump offered states the National Guard and most governors and mayors PROUDLY refused the help while their cities fell into chaotic shit holes. Remember when they took to the burbs of Portland and threatened citizens OR burned down parts of Seattle? Remember Chaz the "autonomous zone" in downtown Portland? So if Trump tries or ANYONE else (BIDEN WONT he loves what is happening) tries to clean up these blue leaning cities they are gonna run into a brick wall. Could people "legitimately" vote them out? I doubt we'll ever know the truth.

AS far as these J6 cops go, I saw the newly released footage when the cops fired rubber bullets and tear gas into a crowd that was just standing on the side of the capital. I'm not going to get into a J6 argument the entire thing was whacked. Some of those cops that committed suicide could have threatened to come forward with info that would damage the left. If you think the left, after spending gazillions to protect the narrative with an all out media warfare to convince the public it was all Trumps fault would not stoop to offing people you're crazy. Look no further than the Clintons.

Great article here.

https://civilcandor.com/liars-govern-america-why-wont-democrats-tell-the-truth/

I would tie in the PUB RINO uniparty people too. Who am I referring to? Politicians that obviously went in with good intentions and somehow became compromised and fell victim to the swamp.

Again who can clean up this mess and how?
 
Again who can clean up this mess and how?
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Like I posted above IDC who walks into this mess its unfixable. The only thing Trump may be able to fix is the extreme politically leaning 3 letter agencies.

Budget??? Impossible to fix.

Several times during the summer of love Trump offered states the National Guard and most governors and mayors PROUDLY refused the help while their cities fell into chaotic shit holes. Remember when they took to the burbs of Portland and threatened citizens OR burned down parts of Seattle? Remember Chaz the "autonomous zone" in downtown Portland? So if Trump tries or ANYONE else (BIDEN WONT he loves what is happening) tries to clean up these blue leaning cities they are gonna run into a brick wall. Could people "legitimately" vote them out? I doubt we'll ever know the truth.

AS far as these J6 cops go, I saw the newly released footage when the cops fired rubber bullets and tear gas into a crowd that was just standing on the side of the capital. I'm not going to get into a J6 argument the entire thing was whacked. Some of those cops that committed suicide could have threatened to come forward with info that would damage the left. If you think the left, after spending gazillions to protect the narrative with an all out media warfare to convince the public it was all Trumps fault would not stoop to offing people you're crazy. Look no further than the Clintons.

Great article here.

https://civilcandor.com/liars-govern-america-why-wont-democrats-tell-the-truth/

I would tie in the PUB RINO uniparty people too. Who am I referring to? Politicians that obviously went in with good intentions and somehow became compromised and fell victim to the swamp.

Again who can clean up this mess and how?
Most people in the FBI self identify as being conservatives and still led by a Trump appointee.

Are you claiming DOJ simply because they didn''t let trump skate? so extreme lmao I would think conservatives would be pro law and order but maybe not??

So which agencies are extreme? lmao.

I guess when coming from the extreme nutcase right, even moderate conservatives appear extreme
 
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The BLM protests were misguided and the associated riots are indefensible. The Jan 6 protests were misguided and the riot and assault on the US Capitol are indefensible. Now let’s focus on the Capitol rioters.

Nearly 1000 of them are in jail. Trump has made the National Anthem sung by convicted Jan 6 rioters a fixture at his rallies. He salutes the flag while these criminals’ rendition is playing. He initially said the rioters that engaged in violence needed punished, then he said he’d pardon some of them, then most of them, and now he calls them all hostages and political prisoners. These people are criminals and most convicted in courts of law of violent crimes injuring police officers and destroying property in our Capitol. He’s led his gullible Trumpsters to defending the criminals and vilifying the cops who were injured and while patriotically defending our Capitol and the elected Congressmen and women inside. How did law and order Republicans go off the rails so badly?

Defend these criminals or not, and do it without mentioning BLM. You should be able to see the criminals in both instances as criminals. Those that compare J6 criminals to the BLM protest associated criminals after this post go on the unserious posters list.

Defend this:

 
The BLM protests were misguided and the associated riots are indefensible. The Jan 6 protests were misguided and the riot and assault on the US Capitol are indefensible. Now let’s focus on the Capitol rioters.

Nearly 1000 of them are in jail. Trump has made the National Anthem sung by convicted Jan 6 rioters a fixture at his rallies. He salutes the flag while these criminals’ rendition is playing. He initially said the rioters that engaged in violence needed punished, then he said he’d pardon some of them, then most of them, and now he calls them all hostages and political prisoners. These people are criminals and most convicted in courts of law of violent crimes injuring police officers and destroying property in our Capitol. He’s led his gullible Trumpsters to defending the criminals and vilifying the cops who were injured and while patriotically defending our Capitol and the elected Congressmen and women inside. How did law and order Republicans go off the rails so badly?

Defend these criminals or not, and do it without mentioning BLM. You should be able to see the criminals in both instances as criminals. Those that compare J6 criminals to the BLM protest associated criminals after this post go on the unserious posters list.

Defend this:

MAGA can’t defend the J6 criminals and they can’t defend Trump’s despicable praise and glorification of cop-beaters, so all you get are everything equals everything, “two terrible candidates” and a full assortment of whatabouts. Sad.
 
The BLM protests were misguided and the associated riots are indefensible. The Jan 6 protests were misguided and the riot and assault on the US Capitol are indefensible. Now let’s focus on the Capitol rioters.

Nearly 1000 of them are in jail. Trump has made the National Anthem sung by convicted Jan 6 rioters a fixture at his rallies. He salutes the flag while these criminals’ rendition is playing. He initially said the rioters that engaged in violence needed punished, then he said he’d pardon some of them, then most of them, and now he calls them all hostages and political prisoners. These people are criminals and most convicted in courts of law of violent crimes injuring police officers and destroying property in our Capitol. He’s led his gullible Trumpsters to defending the criminals and vilifying the cops who were injured and while patriotically defending our Capitol and the elected Congressmen and women inside. How did law and order Republicans go off the rails so badly?

Defend these criminals or not, and do it without mentioning BLM. You should be able to see the criminals in both instances as criminals. Those that compare J6 criminals to the BLM protest associated criminals after this post go on the unserious posters list.

Defend this:

One brings unrest to the Capitol. The other to every Dem run city in America that touches tens of millions of Americans with the vp declaring cops murderers. Some posters have no sense of scale. They aren’t serious posters
 
One brings unrest to the Capitol. The other to every Dem run city in America that touches tens of millions of Americans with the vp declaring cops murderers. Some posters have no sense of scale. They aren’t serious posters
I can despise both groups of criminals, but the focus here, in this thread, is all on the J6 criminals. Let’s do that.
 
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I can despise both groups of criminals, but the focus here, in this thread, is all on the J6 criminals. Let’s do that.
why? it's like focusing on a guy who nicked a snicker's bar with a serial killer in the same store. It’s indicative of the rot that we allow to happen bc we’re focused on the wrong shit. Policy. Policy. Policy. That’s what touches our lives. You worried about semantics is a you problem
 
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why? it's like focusing on a guy who nicked a snicker's bar with a serial killer in the same store. It’s indicative of the rot that we allow to happen bc we’re focused on the wrong shit. Policy. Policy. Policy. That’s what touches our lives. You worried about semantics is a you problem
Because they are two different subjects. Also, law and order is all about policies and it’s troubling my party is moving away from being the party most concerned with law and order.
 
troubling my party is moving away from being the party most concerned with law and order.
again that's comical. the other party is soros. it's bail projects. it's defunding the police. it's attacks on police that have led to unprecedented retirements and shortages because 1) why do a job where your own government attacks you and 2) why do a job when the soros' prosecutors won't do anything to the criminals you apprehend

you are worried about verbiage and semantics and we will end up with endless climate bs, more attacks on energy, bail projects, defunding police, redistribution, free everything, the chance of lockdown mentality and expansive gov, cradle to grave welfare, trannies flashing their fakees at the white house, a president incapable of participating in a trial his brain is so fried, calls for 4 day workweeks, no phone calls or emails after work hours, excessive minimum wage, open borders.... and you're worried about a hundred plus people and semantics. that's not serious and a slap in the face to the tens of millions who will be ACTUALLY personally impacted by another biden administration

trump is horrible. but he will pardon himself and his fat ass will play golf. little will get done which will inure to our benefit. biden is a danger to most everything we do. you're focusing on the wrong subjects
 
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again that's comical. the other party is soros. it's bail projects. it's defunding the police. it's attacks on police that have led to unprecedented retirements and shortages because 1) why do a job where your own government attacks you and 2) why do a job when the soros' prosecutors won't do anything to the criminals you apprehend

you are worried about verbiage and semantics and we will end up with endless climate bs, more attacks on energy, bail projects, defunding police, redistribution, free everything, the chance of lockdown mentality and expansive gov, cradle to grave welfare, trannies flashing their fakees at the white house, a president incapable of participating in a trial his brain is so fried, calls for 4 day workweeks, no phone calls or emails after work hours, excessive minimum wage, open borders.... and you're worried about a hundred plus people and semantics. that's not serious and a slap in the face to the tens of millions who will be ACTUALLY personally impacted by another biden administration

trump is horrible. but he will pardon himself and his fat ass will play golf. little will get done which will inure to our benefit. biden is a danger to most everything we do. you're focusing on the wrong subjects
OK. You won’t focus on the subject. No problem.
 
OK. You won’t focus on the subject. No problem.
Okay he wants to free 20 something jailed persons. He’s wrong. He shouldn’t. Bam. Harris supports bail projects where murderers are let loose in our actual neighborhoods. I doubt these people in dc will cause trouble where any of us live. The bail project not so much. You’re worried about the wrong stuff. Where’s the bail projects for these people ? Oh they’re white. That’s right
 
Okay he wants to free 20 something jailed persons. He’s wrong. He shouldn’t. Bam. Harris supports bail projects where murderers are let loose in our actual neighborhoods. I doubt these people in dc will cause trouble where any of us live. The bail project not so much. You’re worried about the wrong stuff. Where’s the bail projects for these people ? Oh they’re white. That’s right
No, he’s moved on to saying he’d pardon most and maybe all of them.
 
No, he’s moved on to saying he’d pardon most and maybe all of them.
Okay he’s wrong. So what. It’s nothing compared to the left and crime that had a material deleterious impact where we actually live. These people won’t come to your neighborhood and break into your car and shoot you when you run out. I highly doubt they are an ongoing danger like the Dems back with bail projects that let people out of jail
 
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why? it's like focusing on a guy who nicked a snicker's bar with a serial killer in the same store. It’s indicative of the rot that we allow to happen bc we’re focused on the wrong shit. Policy. Policy. Policy. That’s what touches our lives. You worried about semantics is a you problem
When you have Joe loving your posts it's time to reevaluate your stance. Biden for all his faults has never made it BLM riots his central rallying message. Can't say the same for Trump. He embraces the indefensible.
 
again that's comical. the other party is soros. it's bail projects. it's defunding the police. it's attacks on police that have led to unprecedented retirements and shortages because 1) why do a job where your own government attacks you and 2) why do a job when the soros' prosecutors won't do anything to the criminals you apprehend

you are worried about verbiage and semantics and we will end up with endless climate bs, more attacks on energy, bail projects, defunding police, redistribution, free everything, the chance of lockdown mentality and expansive gov, cradle to grave welfare, trannies flashing their fakees at the white house, a president incapable of participating in a trial his brain is so fried, calls for 4 day workweeks, no phone calls or emails after work hours, excessive minimum wage, open borders.... and you're worried about a hundred plus people and semantics. that's not serious and a slap in the face to the tens of millions who will be ACTUALLY personally impacted by another biden administration

trump is horrible. but he will pardon himself and his fat ass will play golf. little will get done which will inure to our benefit. biden is a danger to most everything we do. you're focusing on the wrong subjects
I think you are very naive on what a Trump second term will look like.
 
When you have Joe loving your posts it's time to reevaluate your stance. Biden for all his faults has never made it BLM riots his central rallying message. Can't say the same for Trump. He embraces the indefensible.
when you are congruent with hickory and cosmic you should really reevaluate your positions. BLM was a part of the dem convention. harris tweeted murderers re cops. this is the dem party along with soros backed das, defunding, etc. you really need to educate yourself as this shit has only been posted a hundred times. you're hickory 2.0. congrats to you
 
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I think you are very naive on what a Trump second term will look like.
we had trump for four years and we had biden. biden opened the border with remain in mexcio reversal, we saw the massive spike in crime with defunding the police and bail projects and attacks on cops. i think you are painfully uninformed. one calls for speculation the other is evidence of the what the dems actually implemented
 
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