Dems vote down aid to Israel stand-alone package

[DANC]

Couldn't be that they're playing political games with aid to Israel, could it?

GOP stand-alone Israel aid bill rejected in the House - Roll Call

The House rejected a stand-alone bill to send $17.6 billion to Israel as Democrats called instead for a broader aid package including Ukraine.

rollcall.com

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Couldn't be that they're playing political games with aid to Israel, could it?

GOP stand-alone Israel aid bill rejected in the House - Roll Call

The House rejected a stand-alone bill to send $17.6 billion to Israel as Democrats called instead for a broader aid package including Ukraine.

rollcall.com

Biden said he would veto it anyway

 

[DANC]

Biden said he would veto it anyway

'Splain why he would do that, please. I honestly don't get it. Is it just because it comes from a Republican House?

 

[AFreshPerspective]

If the end result is no Ukraine aid, no Israel aid and no amnesty bill. I am 100% fine with that.

A net positive compared to a Tri legged shit stool. And cheaper too.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

'Splain why he would do that, please. I honestly don't get it. Is it just because it comes from a Republican House?

They hve heir own bundled bill they want

 

[Univee2]

Couldn't be that they're playing political games with aid to Israel, could it?

GOP stand-alone Israel aid bill rejected in the House - Roll Call

The House rejected a stand-alone bill to send $17.6 billion to Israel as Democrats called instead for a broader aid package including Ukraine.

rollcall.com

Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine and the border should each be addressed separately, with unique bills and dedicated funding.

Stop the damn bundling shit.

 

[DANC]

They hve heir own bundled bill they want

So, hypocrites.

 

[mrhighlife]

So, hypocrites.

Why does that make them hypocrites? I'm not defending the Dems on this just wondering about your word choice for this particular issue.

 

[DANC]

Why does that make them hypocrites? I'm not defending the Dems on this just wondering about your word choice for this particular issue.

Because they're accusing Republicans - and Trump, in particular - for playing politics with the bill.

 

[Bloom.]

Couldn't be that they're playing political games with aid to Israel, could it?

GOP stand-alone Israel aid bill rejected in the House - Roll Call

The House rejected a stand-alone bill to send $17.6 billion to Israel as Democrats called instead for a broader aid package including Ukraine.

rollcall.com

How do dems vote it down when the GOP has a majority?

 

[DANC]

How do dems vote it down when the GOP has a majority?

Because only 14 Republicans voted against it and only 40-some (43?) Dems voted for it.

Pretty basic math.

 

[All4You]

Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine and the border should each be addressed separately, with unique bills and dedicated funding.

Stop the damn bundling shit.

Don't let Flo hear you say that...

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine and the border should each be addressed separately, with unique bills and dedicated funding.

Stop the damn bundling shit.

100% single issue bills from now on !
New paint on lane markers in Idaho........... Single GD issue !

 

[IU_Hickory]

'Splain why he would do that, please. I honestly don't get it. Is it just because it comes from a Republican House?

Because it just helps Isreal and ignores Gaza and Ukraine.

That was easy.

 

[IU_Hickory]

Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine and the border should each be addressed separately, with unique bills and dedicated funding.

Stop the damn bundling shit.

Both sides bundle. And it is called negotiating. If pubs want to help Israel then they have to help Ukraine and Gaza.

 

[IU_Hickory]

So, hypocrites.

I don't think you understand the word.

BTW, it was the gop that suggested bundling in the first place.

Talk about someone's word meaning shit

 

[IU_Hickory]

Because they're accusing Republicans - and Trump, in particular - for playing politics with the bill.

They did play politics with the bill.

It was republicans that wanted to bundle the bill in the first place

It was republicans that wanted to have more stringent asylum rules.

It was then republicans that said nah. We don't want it anymore because Trump thinks it will hurt him in nov

 

[DANC]

Because it just helps Isreal and ignores Gaza and Ukraine.

That was easy.

.... an ant-Semite would say

 

[DANC]

They did play politics with the bill.

It was republicans that wanted to bundle the bill in the first place

It was republicans that wanted to have more stringent asylum rules.

It was then republicans that said nah. We don't want it anymore because Trump thinks it will hurt him in nov

I know I've hit home when you become hysterical. How many times are you going to post the same thing, Skippy?

 

[Courtsensetwo]

So, hypocrites.

Sure

No one with a shred of objectivity would say otherwise.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Because they're accusing Republicans - and Trump, in particular - for playing politics with the bill.

Once Trump told them what to do...they did.

 

[DANC]

Once Trump told them what to do...they did.

Really? What did he tell them?

Did he tell Democrats to vote against the stand-alone aid bill to Israel, too?

 

[Willdog7]

'Splain why he would do that, please. I honestly don't get it. Is it just because it comes from a Republican House?

NO nothing for Ukraine, Gaza or the Asia Pacific. the gop are in Putin pocket because trump is in Putin pocket

 

[Willdog7]

Sure

No one with a shred of objectivity would say otherwise.

There other countries that need help beside Israel.

 

[DANC]

NO nothing for Ukraine, Gaza or the Asia Pacific. the gop are in Putin pocket because trump is in Putin pocket

That's why it's called a stand alone bill, genius.

 

[Bloom.]

Because only 14 Republicans voted against it and only 40-some (43?) Dems voted for it.

Pretty basic math.

Sounds like it didn't have enough support on both sides. Normally when some putz blames it solely on one party, it's the majority party who votes in partisan fashion. In this case, not only are you blaming the minority party, but you discount that it carried 43 Democrats.

You're struggling more than the bill.

 

[DANC]

Sounds like it didn't have enough support on both sides. Normally when some putz blames it solely on one party, it's the majority party who votes in partisan fashion. In this case, not only are you blaming the minority party, but you discount that it carried 43 Democrats.

You're struggling more than the bill.

A majority of Republicans voted for it. A majority of Dems voted against it.

It's rare for any bill to get 100% of one Party's vote. This is on the Dems.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

100% single issue bills from now on !
New paint on lane markers in Idaho........... Single GD issue !

They'd be debating and voting 24/7/365. Sounds like a reasonable thing but it's not practical.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

There other countries that need help beside Israel.

yes.

Do you have a point?

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Really? What did he tell them?

Did he tell Democrats to vote against the stand-alone aid bill to Israel, too?

Not to support it. Duh

 

[DANC]

Not to support it. Duh

Link? Or did you just hear that he did that?

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Link? Or did you just hear that he did that?

Widely reported. You need to get away from FOX every now and then.

 

[AFreshPerspective]

They'd be debating and voting 24/7/365. Sounds like a reasonable thing but it's not practical.

It is absolutely practical.

These are the bills that became law in 2023, pretty much all of them single subject:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/19/us/politics/bills-laws-2023-house-congress.html

 

[DANC]

Widely reported. You need to get away from FOX every now and then.

Kind of like you saying you don't know if Biden would enforce immigration and border rules.

 

[Bloom.]

A majority of Republicans voted for it. A majority of Dems voted against it.

It's rare for any bill to get 100% of one Party's vote. This is on the Dems.

Been a rough week for the Speaker. 43 votes from Democrats on a funding bill, and he can't get it passed.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Kind of like you saying you don't know if Biden would enforce immigration and border rules.

Whatever you need it to be.

I try to be objective and when I get called out by both sides in one thread I know i am doing something right.

 

[hoot1]

.... an ant-Semite would say

Putting aside anti semitism for the moment, am wondering how the 17 billion for Israel was determined.

In a normal year our aid to Israel is a mere 3 billion with most of it being spent on the military. Israel's annual military budget being in the 22 billion range.

Given this the bill's 17 billion seems extraordinarily generous to me.

 

[DANC]

Whatever you need it to be.

I try to be objective and when I get called out by both sides in one thread I know i am doing something right.

Sorry, but you're not objective when it comes to anything related to Trump. You're just not.

 

[DANC]

Putting aside anti semitism for the moment, am wondering how the 17 billion for Israel was determined.

In a normal year our aid to Israel is a mere 3 billion with most of it being spent on the military. Israel's annual budget being in the 22 billion range.

Given this the bill's 17 billion seems extraordinarily generous to me.

I'm sure it's going to take a lot to refit Israel's military. It seems like a lot, but we can't afford any of it now anyway.

 

[UncleMark]

Because only 14 Republicans voted against it and only 40-some (43?) Dems voted for it.

Pretty basic math.

So it was a bipartisan rejection.