Right. He wouldn’t be there without Clyburn. Clyburn has already said if not Biden, then Harris.There's literally a Democratic white male in the Oval Office right now. Save your tired cliches, please.
Right. He wouldn’t be there without Clyburn. Clyburn has already said if not Biden, then Harris.There's literally a Democratic white male in the Oval Office right now. Save your tired cliches, please.
Re: Moulton, I don't know too much about him, but if the DNC got behind him and Biden stepping down was handled well, I think he could win.Yeah, he's pretty much announced that a second term would be mostly about retribution. I think it's likely he'd also push for repeal of the 22nd Amendment and/or set up Junior as his successor.
I agree that Beshear would be a good option, but first he needs to win tomorrow. It's never good to be entering a presidential race coming off a loss, but it's definitely been done.
With respect to Shapiro, I think he's still kind of light on experience. Also, while religion shouldn't make a difference, it would - - particularly in today's environment. There's anti-Semitism in both parties.
One person I like who nobody talks about is Seth Moulton. Guy is a centrist, reasonable, well-spoken, likable, only 45, and a decorated war vet (Marine). He announced his candidacy for the presidency in 2019 but it was a short-lived campaign. He couldn't generate any traction - - -or money. Things, though, could go much differently for him now if Biden was out of the race.
Completely agree re Harris. She's got to see the writing on the wall. Hopefully, in the event Biden were to bow out, she'd graciously step aside. Maybe something could be brokered behind the scenes where she gets appointed to the federal bench or some other high-level job.Re: Moulton, I don't know too much about him, but if the DNC got behind him and Biden stepping down was handled well, I think he could win.
I think the x factor is what would happen with Kamala Harris. I think she'd have to be publicly on board for whatever happens. To that point, I'm kind of shocked how her reputation nose-dived after she became VP.
I don't know about Harris...but there are very, very few career politicians like her, that would "bow out" when they're as close as she would be to being the POTUS. And while I agree, she wouldn't be the ideal candidate to take on Trump, I'm sure she'd love to take him on, and probably thinks shes the right person for that challenge.Completely agree re Harris. She's got to see the writing on the wall. Hopefully, in the event Biden were to bow out, she'd graciously step aside. Maybe something could be brokered behind the scenes where she gets appointed to the federal bench or some other high-level job.
You are right Traitor trump could win. He will end Democracy as we know it. Totalitarian state as we know it will be the cause of the day.. The end of our constitution.This won't be brief. Sorry.
I was looking back at a thread ("Trump 2024!") that TDS-sufferer mcmurtry (relax, murt - - just joking) started over a year and a half ago. I predicted then that Trump would be the 2024 GOP nominee, but I couldn't have been more wrong about Biden. I didn't think he'd run for reelection and I anticipated a crowded and competitive Democrat field.
Part of me thinks that someone of influence in the Democrat party needs to have a "Come to Jesus" talk with Jill who, in turn, needs to have a "Come to Jill" talk with Joe and convince him not to seek reelection. The question becomes, though, is it too late? The deadline has already passed in some states for primary filings, and I believe that the deadline will have passed in 14 states by Dec 31. And the launch of any campaign takes time and money. Election Day 2024 is just 12 month away.
A second option is that Biden waits until the Democratic convention in August, drops the bomb that he's changed his mind, and throws his support to someone else. I read last night that, under Dem Party rules, pledged delegates aren't required to vote for the candidate they represent, but rather must "reflect the sentiments of those who elected them." If Biden said in so many words, "You're my delegates but I'm dropping out and endorsing [fill in the blank]," that endorsement would be hugely influential.
But who would he endorse? How does he NOT endorse Harris, and she's less popular than he is? Then again, there's some precedent for a president turning his back on his VP (and I'm not talking about Trump, who did more than turn his back on Pence in Jan 2021). While Biden says he didn't run in 2016 because of his son Beau's death and, indeed, that could have been a factor, there was reliable reporting that Obama saw Clinton as the heir apparent and encouraged Biden to step aside. Finally, there's another consideration with respect to Harris. if Biden failed to support her as his successor, it could be perceived as a slap in the face to the black voters who were instrumental in his win in 2020. The issue becomes moot, though, if Harris were to announce she's not seeking the nomination.
If Biden were to announce at the Convention that he has decided not to move forward, fails to endorse a successor, and no candidate wins the first ballot, then a brokered convention would be the result and chaos could very well follow. A fractured party is the last thing the Dems would want with little time remaining before the general election.
The Dems are in a really tough spot. I never thought I'd be saying this, and it's kind of surreal to think this is a possibilty for a guy with a lengthy rap sheet, but Trump could win.
All you hear is she is wrong for GOVT BUT you never hear from the VP. How do you know what she could do?Completely agree re Harris. She's got to see the writing on the wall. Hopefully, in the event Biden were to bow out, she'd graciously step aside. Maybe something could be brokered behind the scenes where she gets appointed to the federal bench or some other high-level job.
Its not tired. How many nonwhite male or female have been potus?fetterman said newsom is running for president right now but doesn't have the balls to announce it. fetterman is probably jealous. newsom wears impeccably fitting bespoke suits. imagine the appearance he'd cut on stage next to trump's mess
I never had any faith. The reason we’re in this mess is because of Democrat polices. However, my opinion doesn’t matter, it’s the people who voted for Biden that matter. And Uncle mark will vote for him. Hickory will vote for him. Zeke will vote for him and etc.disagree vehemently. we've gotten kicked in the teeth in ways that impact voters the most: freezer burned crab legs, gas, cars, homes, we can debate his culpability in all of this but 1) he remains the coach and 2) do you have any faith in him to have the ability to get us out?
let them vote D and let them wallow in the squalor they deserve while you and me vote B and ride that sweet sweet crypto right into retirementI never had any faith. The reason we’re in this mess is because of Democrat polices. However, mu opinion doesn’t matter, it’s the people who voted for him that matter. And Uncle mark will vote for him. Hickory will vote for him. Zeke will vote for him and etc.
Washington and his band of freedom and liberty loving dream team had to brave an entire ocean, kill a bunch of savages, and then bitch slap the British for good measure to gain their independence. Legend has it their boats didn’t have anchors. He just flopped his wanker into the water and touched bottom.let them vote D and let them wallow in the squalor they deserve while you and me vote B and ride that sweet sweet crypto right into retirement
I don't care who they put up if Trump is the nominee, anyone would get my vote.I never had any faith. The reason we’re in this mess is because of Democrat polices. However, my opinion doesn’t matter, it’s the people who voted for Biden that matter. And Uncle mark will vote for him. Hickory will vote for him. Zeke will vote for him and etc.
I guess trump as a democrat because ,he did nothing.I never had any faith. The reason we’re in this mess is because of Democrat polices. However, my opinion doesn’t matter, it’s the people who voted for Biden that matter. And Uncle mark will vote for him. Hickory will vote for him. Zeke will vote for him and etc.
Hyperbole much?You are right Traitor trump could win. He will end Democracy as we know it. Totalitarian state as we know it will be the cause of the day.. The end of our constitution.
What would you think of this for an administration. Jamie Allman, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Clay Travis, and Buck Sexton?!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🔥Hyperbole much?
One person is not going to end democracy or the constitution. If it ever happens its because the public sucks.
And even their votes don't really matter. Their state will be the first to announce as a Trump win the second polls close next November.However, my opinion doesn’t matter, it’s the people who voted for Biden that matter. And Uncle mark will vote for him. Hickory will vote for him. Zeke will vote for him and etc.
I don't know if I could handle all the winning! 😂What would you think of this for an administration. Jamie Allman, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Clay Travis, and Buck Sexton?!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🔥
What mess is that? Yes I absolutely would vote for anyone against Trump. You’d be hard put to find a candidate as stupid or as corrupt as him. Not to mention the sexual abuse ( rape) thing is a bit off putting.I never had any faith. The reason we’re in this mess is because of Democrat polices. However, my opinion doesn’t matter, it’s the people who voted for Biden that matter. And Uncle mark will vote for him. Hickory will vote for him. Zeke will vote for him and etc.
Who are these people? I’ve only heard of Hannity and Beck.What would you think of this for an administration. Jamie Allman, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Clay Travis, and Buck Sexton?!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🔥
Patriots zeke. PatriotsWho are these people? I’ve only heard of Hannity and Beck.
I agree, which is part of the reason I didn't vote for Biden or Trump. Biden also sexually abused someone, allegedlyNot to mention the sexual abuse ( rape) thing is a bit off putting.
I guess trump did not do anything while he was in office. All I'm hearing is blame the DEMS.What mess is that? Yes I absolutely would vote for anyone against Trump. You’d be hard put to find a candidate as stupid or as corrupt as him. Not to mention the sexual abuse ( rape) thing is a bit off putting.
Do you not pay attention? I'm blaming everyone in the executive and legislative branches on both sides when I say there's been a tit for tat policy reversal from the previous administration starting at least in 2008. New president comes in and signs EOs reversing as much as possible.I guess trump did not do anything while he was in office. All I'm hearing is blame the DEMS.
I never had any faith. The reason we’re in this mess is because of Democrat polices. However, my opinion doesn’t matter, it’s the people who voted for Biden that matter. And Uncle mark will vote for him. Hickory will vote for him. Zeke will vote for him and etc.
There are 100 senators and 535 congress critters. How many do you know? The ones you do know are the ones the media pushes because they get their ratings up.I would vote for pretty much anyone if Trump was the other option. If Biden was in a coma and allowed to be on the ticket as the only option outside of Trump, then count me in for biden. Trump should never be in the white house again.
And it isn't a crime to prefer dem policies over whatever you want to call the crud coming out of the party of Trump lately, which is hardly even recognizable to what the gop used to be.
So true. I’ve criticized Biden for all kinds of stuff, but I don’t criticize him for falling, on stairs or on a bike. I’ve done both. You gotta be moving in order to fall.
There are 100 senators and 535 congress critters. How many do you know? The ones you do know are the ones the media pushes because they get their ratings up.
Do you know every peice of legislation being debated and voted on? I seriously doubt. I bet there is more compromise than we get to see.
I'd argue if any institution is responsible for degrading our country and the faith in our system its our disgusting press. CNN started us down this road in 1980 with the 24/7 news cycle. Some network would have done it eventually anyway. Throw in social media after that and here we are.
It is all shit but faux news is at the very least just as shitty as CNN.I was in agreement with you up until faux news. It's all shit and has been for 30 years.
Out of curiosity how old are you if you're willing to share. I'll start. I'm 38.
I don't read or watch any of it. If I hear a topic people are talking about at work or wherever, and it piques my interest I'll look in to it.It is all shit but faux news is at the very least just as shitty as CNN.
That is why the extent of my news is generally from here and sometimes online articles that originate from a variety of news sources
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I take everything on here with a huge grain of salt. More of a notice of what is being said. Most are just regurgitating the news mediaI don't read or watch any of it. If I hear a topic people are talking about at work or wherever, and it piques my interest I'll look in to it.
Honestly, good for you if you don't. Although internet forums aren't the best source for news it has to be a step above mainstream garbage.
Trump would beat him with his eyes closed.fetterman said newsom is running for president right now but doesn't have the balls to announce it. fetterman is probably jealous. newsom wears impeccably fitting bespoke suits. imagine the appearance he'd cut on stage next to trump's mess