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Biden news conference thread -- 6:30 pm

Have you read ANY of Project 2025?

Better yet, have you read ANY of Project 2025, in its original German?
Why are you so dishonest all the time? Did you not hear what trump said about it? Do you really think those things are going to be implemented? No fault divorce? You are sooooooo dumb. You lack a rudimentary understanding of how anything works and then salt it with paranoia. Just miserable. Brainwashed. Far left radical whack job
 
I think the Trump side and the I don't like Trump side are going to have to figure out what issues they can coexist around and start focusing on that. This is his last hurrah and none of you are likely to find a comfortable home in the other option. There won't be some "MAGA" takeover of the GOP. Trump is a blip and the money is still with the establishment. However, the establishment types are going to have to recalibrate their approach and some of their positions should they want to stay a viable party.

You all need to stop bitching at each other.
 
I think the Trump side and the I don't like Trump side are going to have to figure out what issues they can coexist around and start focusing on that. This is his last hurrah and none of you are likely to find a comfortable home in the other option. There won't be some "MAGA" takeover of the GOP. Trump is a blip and the money is still with the establishment. However, the establishment types are going to have to recalibrate their approach and some of their positions should they want to stay a viable party.

You all need to stop bitching at each other.
Agree for the most part but disagree to the extent trump is a blip. Trump tapped into something bigger that is a flag others will carry. He touched a segment of the population that felt ignored or out of touch with old guard pubs. Someone will take his place OR a smart Dem will come along and bring them under their tent and republicans will be left with very little left. The pre Trump Republican Party won’t win a national election again imo
 
I don't think there is either but some try to give that impression just to irritate others.
I don’t see that either. What I mostly see is TDS sufferers assume those that defend Trump on certain issues to be “Trump only” Republicans. They don’t understand how an individual can possibly agree with Trump on anything. It’s absolutely ridiculous.
 
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Did you not hear what trump said about it?
Yes, I heard him say that he doesn't know anything about the people who wrote it, most of whom were in his inner circle in his administration. He is distancing himself from it because many aspects of it have gotten bad press.

Did you not hear what Rubio initially said about it, in a speech at the Heritage Foundation, before getting his marching orders from Trump? That it is a "policy blueprint for the next administration"?
 
Why are you so dishonest all the time? Did you not hear what trump said about it? Do you really think those things are going to be implemented? No fault divorce? You are sooooooo dumb. You lack a rudimentary understanding of how anything works and then salt it with paranoia. Just miserable. Brainwashed. Far left radical whack job
It’s all they have at this point. They see Project 2025 as their only chance to sway voters to their side.
 
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Yes, I heard him say that he doesn't know anything about the people who wrote it, most of whom were in his inner circle in his administration. He is distancing himself from it because many aspects of it have gotten bad press.

Did you not hear what Rubio initially said about it, in a speech at the Heritage Foundation, before getting his marching orders from Trump? That it is a "policy blueprint for the next administration"?
Other posters already shared the agenda. It’s not the fear porn your woke feed serves you.
 
So as an “old school Republican”, you were how we passed legislation that led to the managed decline of our middle class by importing cheap labor and offshoring our manufacturing base?

As an “old school Republican” you were fine with the overt corruption within our financial institutions, the unholy marriage between Congress and Wall Street, and the use of pension and 401ks to enrich a select few whole the tax payers picked up the tab for terrible fund managers?

As an “old school Republican” you were fine ceding control of every institution to a group of people who had a nihilistic/Marxist worldview?

As an “old school Republican” you were fine spending g trillions of dollars and thousands of lives on multiple pointless wars where the end result was no different than the beginning?

I’m sick and disgusted by “one school Republicans” who did nothing to protect our country, our children, and claimed a moral superiority they didn’t possess.

I’m longing for American leaders who will right this ship, be willing to fight against the dirtiest fighters in the world, and have the balls to do what is necessary, even when it is unpleasant.
Damn fine run at defining a coherent MAGA philosophy in relation to the old guard and the main stream corporatist wing of the Dems.

For those on the left: read those concerns. “We” on the left used to share many of them (in fact, at the time, we were the first to point them out). There is room for common cause and healthy, constructive debate and discussion along with a working compromise.

But first, “we” have to stop calling every Trump voter or MAGA supporter dumb, stupid, racist, fascist, etc. and meet them where they’re at. That’s how a functioning society works.
 
No one gets it wrong more than shitter
We”ve had the “fine people” hoax, the “Russia” hoax (good for three our four sub hoaxes), the “insurrection“ hoax, and “Biden is as sharp as a tack” hoax. Now we get the “project 25 hoax”. Frankly I’m bored with this. I wanna know about the extraterrestrials at Area 51.
 
We”ve had the “fine people” hoax, the “Russia” hoax (good for three our four sub hoaxes), the “insurrection“ hoax, and “Biden is as sharp as a tack” hoax. Now we get the “project 25 hoax”. Frankly I’m bored with this. I wanna know about the extraterrestrials at Area 51.
And Bigfoot. I saw one outside of Chattanooga under a waterfall
 
Agree for the most part but disagree to the extent trump is a blip. Trump tapped into something bigger that is a flag others will carry. He touched a segment of the population that felt ignored or out of touch with old guard pubs. Someone will take his place OR a smart Dem will come along and bring them under their tent and republicans will be left with very little left. The pre Trump Republican Party won’t win a national election again imo
Yes, as I said there will need to be a recalibration, but Trump isn't a kingmaker. He does have a bit of a cult of personality built around him that dies with him. The question becomes does he leave any lasting policy markers that can be built around. I don't think things look the way some of the hardcore Trumpy people on Twitter think it will look after he is gone.

These two sides throwing haymakers at each other will either come to the realization that they reluctantly need each other or they will set themselves up for a bunch of losing.
 
Dbm is. He’s said several times he and others would not support another Republican.
Who are the others. You’ve claimed I’m a Trump only guy numerous times, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m way more of a never dem guy. Please provide the handles of those that are “only Trumpers”. So far you’ve named 1, but I can’t say I’m certain you’re correct on the 1.
 
Yes, I heard him say that he doesn't know anything about the people who wrote it, most of whom were in his inner circle in his administration. He is distancing himself from it because many aspects of it have gotten bad press.

Did you not hear what Rubio initially said about it, in a speech at the Heritage Foundation, before getting his marching orders from Trump? That it is a "policy blueprint for the next administration"?
Yes. Trump loves Project 2025 but his handlers have determined it's damaging to the campaign.
 
Why are you so dishonest all the time? Did you not hear what trump said about it? Do you really think those things are going to be implemented? No fault divorce? You are sooooooo dumb. You lack a rudimentary understanding of how anything works and then salt it with paranoia. Just miserable. Brainwashed. Far left radical whack job
He's right about this.

Here’s what Trump said: “I know nothing about Project 2025. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have no idea who’s behind it. I have nothing to do with them.”

Those are bald-faced lies.

The co-editors of Project 2025, Paul Dans and Steven Groves, held important posts in the Trump administration. Dans was Chief of Staff at the Office of Personnel Management (the agency that staffs the federal government). Groves was Deputy Press Secretary and Assistant Special Counsel.

Project 2025 has two associate directors, Spencer Chretien and Troup Hemenway. Chretien served in the Trump administration as Special Assistant to PresidentTrump and Associate Director of Presidential Personnel, helping to identify, recruit and place hundreds of political appointees at all levels of the government. Hemenway also served as Associate Director of Presidential Personnel and previously worked on Trump’s 2016 campaign and Trump’s 2016 transition team.

John McEntee, former Director of Trump's Presidential Personnel office, is a senior advisor to the Heritage Foundation, and said that the group will "integrate a lot of our work" with the Trump campaign when the official transition efforts are announced in the next few months.

The manifesto's chapter on the Executive Office of the President of the United States was written by Russ Vought. Under Trump, Vought had a Cabinet-level position as director of the Office of Management and Budget. Vought is also drafting Project 2025’s “playbook” for the first 180 days of a second Trump term. That document is not being shared publicly.

Of the 38 people responsible for writing and editing the manifesto, 31 served in the Trump administration.

Trump knows plenty about Project 2025. His fingerprints are all over it.

This isn’t the Heritage Foundation’s first Trump rodeo. They did something similar the first time around, but on a much smaller scale. Their 2016 “Mandate for Leadership” included five individual publications, with 300+ specific policy recommendations for Trump. In 2018, analysis completed by Heritage determined that 64% of its policy prescriptions were included in Trump’s budget, implemented through regulatory guidance, or under close consideration for action in accordance with Heritage’s original proposals.

Project 2025 won’t prevail on ditching no-fault divorce, but history tells us they’ll get most of what they want in a second Trump administration: Vastly expanded presidential power. Carefully vetted Trump loyalists throughout the federal government. Oval Office control of federal agencies. Penalties for even referencing “climate change,” and withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accords. Dismantling workers’ rights to organize through unions, replaced by a less powerful alternative called “employee involvement organizations.” Slashing corporate taxes. Shutting down the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The shit-list goes on.
 
He's right about this.

Here’s what Trump said: “I know nothing about Project 2025. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have no idea who’s behind it. I have nothing to do with them.”

Those are bald-faced lies.

The co-editors of Project 2025, Paul Dans and Steven Groves, held important posts in the Trump administration. Dans was Chief of Staff at the Office of Personnel Management (the agency that staffs the federal government). Groves was Deputy Press Secretary and Assistant Special Counsel.

Project 2025 has two associate directors, Spencer Chretien and Troup Hemenway. Chretien served in the Trump administration as Special Assistant to PresidentTrump and Associate Director of Presidential Personnel, helping to identify, recruit and place hundreds of political appointees at all levels of the government. Hemenway also served as Associate Director of Presidential Personnel and previously worked on Trump’s 2016 campaign and Trump’s 2016 transition team.

John McEntee, former Director of Trump's Presidential Personnel office, is a senior advisor to the Heritage Foundation, and said that the group will "integrate a lot of our work" with the Trump campaign when the official transition efforts are announced in the next few months.

The manifesto's chapter on the Executive Office of the President of the United States was written by Russ Vought. Under Trump, Vought had a Cabinet-level position as director of the Office of Management and Budget. Vought is also drafting Project 2025’s “playbook” for the first 180 days of a second Trump term. That document is not being shared publicly.

Of the 38 people responsible for writing and editing the manifesto, 31 served in the Trump administration.

Trump knows plenty about Project 2025. His fingerprints are all over it.

This isn’t the Heritage Foundation’s first Trump rodeo. They did something similar the first time around, but on a much smaller scale. Their 2016 “Mandate for Leadership” included five individual publications, with 300+ specific policy recommendations for Trump. In 2018, analysis completed by Heritage determined that 64% of its policy prescriptions were included in Trump’s budget, implemented through regulatory guidance, or under close consideration for action in accordance with Heritage’s original proposals.

Project 2025 won’t prevail on ditching no-fault divorce, but history tells us they’ll get most of what they want in a second Trump administration: Vastly expanded presidential power. Carefully vetted Trump loyalists throughout the federal government. Oval Office control of federal agencies. Penalties for even referencing “climate change,” and withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accords. Dismantling workers’ rights to organize through unions, replaced by a less powerful alternative called “employee involvement organizations.” Slashing corporate taxes. Shutting down the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The shit-list goes on.
1) what’s on there is impractical fear porn
2) you think a guy who bangs porn stars is banning porn. You think no fault divorces are going away. On and on.
3). Trump hasn’t spent five minutes on a 900 page document.
4. The 2024 platform was released earlier this week. The actual one. Discuss that.
 
Most thought he’d be a one term President too. I certainly did. They’re both too frickin’ old to run for President. There ought to be a law . . .
We all expected the Pubs to have downloaded trump and provided a legitimate candidate.

Didn't happen, so here we are.
 
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1) what’s on there is impractical fear porn
2) you think a guy who bangs porn stars is banning porn. You think no fault divorces are going away. On and on.
3). Trump hasn’t spent five minutes on a 900 page document.
4. The 2024 platform was released earlier this week. The actual one. Discuss that.
You're not paying attention. These are Trump officials, advisors and confidants. I already said they're not going to get everything they want, but they'll get most of it. Just like last time.

Of course Trump hasn't read it. So what? His people wrote it. That's what matters.

The "platform?" It's a 20-point wish-list. I do love the specifics of #20, though - - "Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success."
 
You're not paying attention. These are Trump officials, advisors and confidants. I already said they're not going to get everything they want, but they'll get most of it. Just like last time.

Of course Trump hasn't read it. So what? His people wrote it. That's what matters.

The "platform?" It's a 20-point wish-list. I do love the specifics of #20, though - - "Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success."
No you’re just susceptible to fear porn. No different than your democracy dictator rants.I do hope we have divided gov tho
 
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Trump and his allies are an absolute threat to democracy. Project 2025 is Exhibit A.
You're embarrassing yourself... I know you got the party e-mail and all but c'mon...

If Trump is such an existential " threat to democracy" why did the DNC run Joe again as your Presidential candidate? No one is buying the "they didn't know" about his obviously diminished cognitive state... Anyone actually watching and listening to him the past 4 years has seen it in real time...

You ladies need a new talking point... That dog won't hunt...
 
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The dog hunted pretty hard on Jan 6. It's not hard to conclude that DJT is an existential threat to democracy when he has ALREADY led an organized and violent effort to stop presidential succession.
 
We”ve had the “fine people” hoax, the “Russia” hoax (good for three our four sub hoaxes), the “insurrection“ hoax, and “Biden is as sharp as a tack” hoax. Now we get the “project 25 hoax”. Frankly I’m bored with this. I wanna know about the extraterrestrials at Area 51.
Look closely...... I think there are some down there. :)

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His inability to remember if another head of state said something to him in private or publicly, and then saying "oh I'll just say it to the world, he won't mind" is a little disconcerting.

Not that Trump wouldn't also do the same thing, of course, if he found it politically beneficial.
Much like Democrats wouldn't care about storming the Capitol if they found it politically beneficial.
 
Masterful? Cmon? He gave relevant answers. They were mostly fluff personal stories trying to portray himself as the best guy out there, with a kernel of an idea. Two state solution. Nato-ize Finland. But no deep analysis. No "masterful" command of the issue that he was communicating.

To be fair, few presidents do communicate masterful grasp of many issues. Trump can't do it in an answer.
You don't always have to claim Trump would do the same thing. No one is going to accuse you of being a Trumpster. lol
 
Who are the others. You’ve claimed I’m a Trump only guy numerous times, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m way more of a never dem guy. Please provide the handles of those that are “only Trumpers”. So far you’ve named 1, but I can’t say I’m certain you’re correct on the 1.
That’s his schtick. Anytime someone disagrees with him his default is to call names or hurl insults, & he’s dull enough that he uses the same one every time. That & scream over & over again that he’s the true Republican, not the 70 million that will vote for Trump.🙄
 
The dog hunted pretty hard on Jan 6. It's not hard to conclude that DJT is an existential threat to democracy when he has ALREADY led an organized and violent effort to stop presidential succession.
The guy said go protest peacefully And he had attempted to bring the Guard prior to the event and was nixed by Pelosi...

That DNC talking point doesn't work either unless you're using it to whip up the low information types of your base...

You're boring us with the same old BS...
 
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