We can. Read the article I linked above in post 77 about defunding. I think Biden was spot on and touched on everything. More cops, gun control, community initiatives. All good stuff from Biden
Biden meeting in NY with Adams where violent crime, like in many blue cities, is out of control.
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The news I heard later in the day is that the Target lit the fuse on a stash of explosives that caused the ‘collateral’ causulties, while killing himself. The headline implication that special forces were responsible was incorrect.
You say we can, but do you really think Republican legislators will go for that? I’d be thrilled if they would, but they haven’t even agreed to more thorough background check laws, which have about a 90% public approval rating.
I'm jaded. I don't think any of that stuff will make much of a difference because there are just too many guns already on the streets. But it's better than nothing. And yes Pubs are too much re guns
Honestly I’m not sure it would either, but I sure don’t think it could hurt to at least try it.
Was talking to my wife about fist fights in which I was involved in my youth.
Because gun control is pablum, not an effective contributor to safety. The two cops ambushed in NYC were ambushed with an illegal weapon. So much for gun control.
Of course I can but I just assumed everyone on here understood what a background check was. You don’t? Ok,you check for criminal history, mental issues, history of domestic abuse.
Profiling and stop and frisk? Gun violence is a problem concentrated in Blacks. Law enforcement are stepping up enforcement in dangerous (meaning black) areas. That’s fine. While focusing on areas is racially benign, guns and shooters don’t stay in those areas.
Was recently telling my wife about fist fights in which I was engaged in my youth.
Later as an army officer the incidents in my unit involved young soldiers from tough big city neighborhoods who committed crimes with knifes.
These days the readily available weapon of choice by kids on the street are guns which make the weapons we used by most soldiers when I was in service as being obsolete.
It's spreading everywhere. As I said there was just a carjacking at a spot we often hit for happy hour. Violent crime, once concentrated, is spreading. Read my link on Biden in post 77 Coh. His rhetoric is good on the topic. More Cops, OT $ for cops, lifting manufac immunity, etc
The Denver Mayor (a Black) announced some control measures yesterday. The usual suspects complained saying he was backing away from George Floyd reforms. The highlights.
Better control over people under supervision. (Parole, Probation, Pre-Trial release)
More enforcement in Hotspots
Better enforcement of those not permitted to have guns (prior felony conviction)
And more cops.
There are many factors in the increase of Denver shootings and violence. The first three points are the most common factors.
Good grief. Don’t be an idiot. Legal guns owned by those entitled to own them are not the problem. Background checks? Who will check the background of the kid buying a gun in the alley out of the trunk of a car? And he buys it with the proceeds of selling a catalytic converter he “found” on a curb.
Wait. Weren’t you just whining about people name calling today? Swear that was you. Once again, one law doesn’t get everything and no one thinks it does Why are you so afraid to try? And who the hell is talking about legal guns? You appear to be trying to be obtuse these days.
What does one thing have to do with an other? Are they going to kill someone with their vote? Yes, if they have paid their penalty of course they should be allowed to vote.
Strike one
Try again. What will more background checks accomplish in stemming the tide of gun violence every day in every big city?
What’s strike one? Not engaging your disingenuous contrary discourse this evening.
That’s a good swing.
Strike two.
What will expanded background checks accomplish to stem urban gun violence?
You did pivot from an illegal gun to legal guns with no warning. Can't really blame Zeke for having no idea what you're trying to get at.
legal or illegal guns don’t matter. Z wants more background checks. What will expanded background checks accomplish to stem urban gun violence? Simple question.
Don't expect me to play your silly games. I'm just saying you did change the rules in the middle, so don't blame Zeke for failing to keep up.
what’s silly? Zeke said more background checks would help urban gun violence. I stated diasagreement. I asked how more background checks would help. Then you jumped in. Wanna try to answer? Doesn’t matter to me one way or the other.
You decide which rights are restricted?
Kill someone with their vote?
All gun owners are killers?
Slippery slope you are trying to navigate
Yeah there is one big difference. Clinton, love him or hate him, was a master and smart politician... Biden isn't close to his league.
Exactly Biden can barely read of his teleprompter most days if he is lucky and is almost 30 years older than Clinton was. And even Biden of 30 years ago is nowhere close to the politician Clinton was. And the other thing is Biden is not running things the left wing of his party is so who is going to let him pivot? The left wing of his party are not interested in a pivot and I do not think they care about the warnings for 2022. They so believe in their views or cause they will not budge. The closet thing you will see to a pivot are like Biden’s little speech on cancer and his little mission where the terrorist blew himself that. There will be no major pivot.
Well and his take on cops/law enforcement, which was largely what gave the far left a voice. They can't be pleased with his posture and rhetoric re same. So we'll see. I think you're allowing partisanship to color your take. You can't keep on a path of basement approval ratings without changing
The administration is also working on an executive order to address police reform, but that effort has been challenged by police groups that dislike rhetoric about “systemic racism” in their profession, according to a New York Times report on the order. “We’re not close on that front, but we are working on it,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said aboard Air Force One on the way to New York in reference to those developments.
Legislation meant to enact police reform, the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, failed to advance, despite a nominally bipartisan effort.
Buffeted by competing imperatives, Biden could end up satisfying neither progressives demanding systemic change nor moderates in favor of some criminal justice reform but also concerned about the drumbeat of news reports about crime.
Good luck Joe maybe if the left has not gone so crazy calling for the defunding of the police in 2020 you would have some wiggle rooom but now you do not. Not to mention the DA's in most of these high crime cities like Philly, San Fran, Milwaukee, etc are all soros funded hardcore leftist who do not want to get tough on crime.
One more reason why I’m fed up with Biden and the Democrats.
For months I have heard Biden say the unvaxxed people are unpatriotic, dangerous , or even killers. He said he was ”fed up” with them and we had a right to be angry with them. I also heard those who question the 2020 election, “you are a treat to Democracy“. If you want voting security you are racist. If you object to his BBB plans you don’t care about women, children, and minorities.
Yesterday Biden travels to New York as a symbolic gesture to talk about crime in our great cities. Crime that is taking an increasing toll on the general sense of security we all should have. These are crimes real people commit. The shootings. The car jackings. The shoplifting. The car break-ins. The organized smash and grabs. All real crimes committed by real people with other real people as victims. Does Biden say he is fed up with these criminals? Nope. Does he say these criminals are killers? Nope. Does he say we should be angry at these criminals? Nope. Does he say these criminals are a threat to general security? Nope. Apparently these criminals don’t really exist in his mind. What is on his mind? Their guns. i guess he believes if we control the guns with more useless pablum like more background checks, attacks on the “iron pipeline,” and spend more money on both, the carjackings, gang killings, shoplifting, and smash and grabs, will go away. What dumbasses we have in this administration.
For months I have heard Biden say the unvaxxed people are unpatriotic, dangerous , or even killers. He said he was ”fed up” with them and we had a right to be angry with them. I also heard those who question the 2020 election, “you are a treat to Democracy“. If you want voting security you are racist. If you object to his BBB plans you don’t care about women, children, and minorities.
Yesterday Biden travels to New York as a symbolic gesture to talk about crime in our great cities. Crime that is taking an increasing toll on the general sense of security we all should have. These are crimes real people commit. The shootings. The car jackings. The shoplifting. The car break-ins. The organized smash and grabs. All real crimes committed by real people with other real people as victims. Does Biden say he is fed up with these criminals? Nope. Does he say these criminals are killers? Nope. Does he say we should be angry at these criminals? Nope. Does he say these criminals are a threat to general security? Nope. Apparently these criminals don’t really exist in his mind. What is on his mind? Their guns. i guess he believes if we control the guns with more useless pablum like more background checks, attacks on the “iron pipeline,” and spend more money on both, the carjackings, gang killings, shoplifting, and smash and grabs, will go away. What dumbasses we have in this administration.
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I see and hear this attitude a lot in other areas. I find myself thinking the same thing sometimes. So I think it's worth examining: the only way that it couldn't hurt, is if there were no cost to trying to implement said policy.
But there is. There is always an opportunity cost and there is also the cost of pissing off half the electorate (no matter how wrongheaded you might think they are).
So I think rather than try things that we're pretty sure won't work because "hey we need to do something because we don't like what's going on," we should spend time building some kind of across-the-aisle consensus on things we think will work. That is difficult and takes time and compromise and talking with people we disagree with but I think it the best way to solutions (and also why I think it's a terrible thing to demonize "the other side" in other areas because it makes it impossible to get together and solve other problems that could be solved).
The general sense of security we should all feel is spot on. In the last year and a half we've had shootings at the mall. Fam no longer goes to the mall at night. One of our happy hour spots had an armed car jacking last week in the parking lot. There was a murder in the parking lot at Bonefish down the street. Neighbor four houses down had his car stolen. Cops have advised us if you leave your car on the street don't lock it. Just let people be able to open it to see what's inside. It's out of control. And we're in a "great" neighborhood. I can't imagine what it'd be like to live in the City
Government needs to be effective. People see a lot of government that is overly bureaucratic, wasteful, and useless. Why double down on that? The “we must do something” objective of passing laws and regulations is at it peak. For its own credibility, government needs to be efficient and effective.
The “like” is for a good point. Nobody likes that sort of content. Until we deal with the criminals as criminals, we won’t get anywhere. There is no organized resistance to crime. Biden just blew it yesterday.
I think Denver at least is over the target. The paper this morning reports more objections from the left-wing nuts who mumble something about “overpolicing” Blacks.
It doesn't have to be an either or. You can condemn black crime/violence while also recognizing that to some degree there's an explanation for the behavior and that changes need to be made to increase opportunities etc. You can be tough on crime and do things to elevate the station in life of those "predisposed" to fall into a cycle of crime. Biden, to his credit, at least recognized that prosecutors need to be emboldened, monies need to be allocated for more cops and to cover OT, and that liability immunity ought to be lifted. That's a far cry away from the far left in policy. And as you know local police departments rely on federal funding. And bad cops need to continue to be weeded out and punished. We repose our trust in them. And at the street level I do believe racism occurs. We need to do our best to train cops to avoid stereotyping etc. and that will in time turn down the temperature of the far left. We all know no group in history has felt the pain and consequences of racism as profoundly as far left white liberals. Not even actual slaves
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Agree. That is where education comes in. Government can’t do much with homes and parenting, but it can improve education for these youngsters. That is why I suggested a “moon shot” education make over and linked to Honda’s example.
And hear I thought great uniter Mr return to normal was going to have the country happy as clams and everyone was going to get along!!!! So under the great uniter the number of americans satisfied has dropped 10% points. I mean I thought just not having the mean tweets was going to make all the suburban women happy. I guess the great uniter is not all he was cracked up to be.
(CNN)One word can describe how Americans are feeling about the way things are going: bad. That's the finding of a new Gallup poll out Wednesday that measures the state of the nation, and it's what a lot of other data tells us as well.
Any sense of optimism that was apparent after vaccines were developed for the coronavirus has abated, and a lot of Americans are not pleased with what is going on in their daily lives, the state of our nation and the state of our politics.
Gallup has been asking Americans how they are feeling about different aspects of life and policy issues for the last two decades. And this year, across those 29 different measurements, just 38% of Americans say they're satisfied.
In 2020, before the pandemic began, an average of 48% of Americans said they were satisfied. There was a big drop in 2021, when 41% indicated they were happy with what was going on these 29 different metrics
