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Trump fires 17 independent inspectors general

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"President Donald Trump fired 17 independent watchdogs at multiple government agencies on Friday, a person with knowledge of the matter said, eliminating a critical oversight component and clearing the way to replace them with loyalists.

"The dismissals appeared to violate federal law, which requires the president to give both houses of Congress reasons for the dismissals 30 days in advance."

 
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"President Donald Trump fired 17 independent watchdogs at multiple government agencies on Friday, a person with knowledge of the matter said, eliminating a critical oversight component and clearing the way to replace them with loyalists.

"The dismissals appeared to violate federal law, which requires the president to give both houses of Congress reasons for the dismissals 30 days in advance."

Good.
 
They’re likely on paid leave for the month.

And Biden openly violated SCOTUS rulings and you Dems seemed fine with that.
You must have me confused with someone else.

First, I'm not a Dem. Next, I said in 2023 that Biden should not seek reelection. I criticized him here on numerous occasions, and recently harshly criticized his pardons. In any event, Biden's irrelevant now.

We're going to see much more of this (i.e. actions - - - legal and illegal - - that whittle away the independence of federal agencies) from Trump in the coming months. And it's no surprise. It was all spelled out in the 900-page blueprint that Trump knew nothing about. Lol.
 
Nope. You’re as shit lib as they come. You make @The Original Happy Goat look like Ayn Ran

You know that's not true (direct me to one of my far-left posts; pro tip - don't waste too much time looking because you won't find one) but you're another one who hates me because I'm anti-Trump, and "shit lib" is your favorite insult.

As an aside, why are you MAGAs seemingly still in a perpetual state of anger/rage. Breaking news: your guy won.
 
You must have me confused with someone else.

First, I'm not a Dem. Next, I said in 2023 that Biden should not seek reelection. I criticized him here on numerous occasions, and recently harshly criticized his pardons. In any event, Biden's irrelevant now.

We're going to see much more of this (i.e. actions - - - legal and illegal - - that whittle away the independence of federal agencies) from Trump in the coming months. And it's no surprise. It was all spelled out in the 900-page blueprint that Trump knew nothing about. Lol.
This isn't the first time you've talked about independence and federal agencies. Those 2 things aren't compatible. Those agencies are part of the executive branch and subject to not only the president's direction/guidance, but also the oversight of Congress and rulings of the judicial system.
 
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It was 4 years of absolute hell. Hell. We’re all pretty f****** scarred.

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Big bad Joe can’t get you anymore. He’s gone. Go ahead and crawl up in the warm, snuggly embrace of your Daddy. BDS is rough, and the only cure is Donny’s red meat. Don’t OD like all those J6 idiots did, and you should be fine.
 
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You know that's not true (direct me to one of my far-left posts; pro tip - don't waste too much time looking because you won't find one) but you're another one who hates me because I'm anti-Trump, and "shit lib" is your favorite insult.

As an aside, why are you MAGAs seemingly still in a perpetual state of anger/rage. Breaking news: your guy won.
I haven’t been this happy about the direction of our country in a long time . Mostly because I haven’t been this hopeful. Liberal tears, such as yours, only add to my enjoyment. Great times we live in. Enjoy the losing!
 
I haven’t been this happy about the direction of our country in a long time . Mostly because I haven’t been this hopeful. Liberal tears, such as yours, only add to my enjoyment. Great times we live in. Enjoy the losing!
The party was very transparent about project 2025. We knew the authors. Why are we acting surprised. Do you think we can get all of it implemented in 2025 tho?
 
I haven’t been happier in a long time. Mostly because I haven’t been this hopeful in a while. Liberal tears, such as yours, only add to my enjoyment. Great times we live in. Enjoy the losing!
See, dbm? Here’s a guy who has almost overcome his BDS with repeated red meat injections from his Daddy.
Happy days are ahead for you. Just keep taking it all in.
 
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That blanket statement is simply not true. The Fed, for example.

And of course everything/everyone (save one) is subject to the judiciary. That doesn't negate "independence."
Even the fed is independent within the government, not independent from/of the government.

It sounds like you think Trump is the only one to ever try to assert control over agencies and that those agencies shouldn't be subject to oversight and control.
 
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"President Donald Trump fired 17 independent watchdogs at multiple government agencies on Friday, a person with knowledge of the matter said, eliminating a critical oversight component and clearing the way to replace them with loyalists.

"The dismissals appeared to violate federal law, which requires the president to give both houses of Congress reasons for the dismissals 30 days in advance."

Meh.

There are 72 IG’s and the federal government still is incompetent in many ways and wastes a shit ton of money. Most of the 17 dismissals were Trump appointees anyway.

 
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Even the fed is independent within the government, not independent from/of the government.

It sounds like you think Trump is the only one to ever try to assert control over agencies and that those agencies shouldn't be subject to oversight and control.
He likely violated federal law.

But Trump can do whatever he wants now, so much more law-breaking to come.
 
You know that's not true (direct me to one of my far-left posts; pro tip - don't waste too much time looking because you won't find one) but you're another one who hates me because I'm anti-Trump, and "shit lib" is your favorite insult.

As an aside, why are you MAGAs seemingly still in a perpetual state of anger/rage. Breaking news: your guy won.
At this point shit lib is a term of endearment. It’s my way of showing love towards liberals. You’re a far left loon by the way. GOAT is a liberal.

As for rage? It’s been a great week. Trump signed a EO researching for a SBR. The dude all the Bitcoiners wanted pardon, got pardoned. SAB 121 was repealed. I’m bullish as f#ck. Life is great. And yes my guy did win. Winners win, Bowl.
 
Meh.

There are 72 IG’s and the federal government still is incompetent in many ways and wastes a shit ton of money. Most of the 17 dismissals were Trump appointees anyway.

He can fire them but by law (relatively new law) he’s required to provide congressional notification, including detailed justification, 30 days prior. That’s a reasonable law. Some Congressional Republicans already expressed displeasure with this. With very small majorities in both Houses of Congress it seems unwise to irritate them by not following a reasonable law. I’d imagine it works like other congressional notifications like for arms sales and after 30 days without Congress taking any action it’s essentially approved.
 
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He can fire them but by law (relatively new law) he’s required to provide congressional notification, including detailed justification, 30 days prior. That’s a reasonable law. Some Congressional Republicans already expressed displeasure with this. With very small majorities in both Houses of Congress it seems unwise to irritate them by not following a reasonable law. I’d imagine it works like other congressional notifications like for arms sales and after 30 days without Congress taking any action it’s essentially approved.
I know. This probably means the IG’s will be on paid leave for 30 days.

As an aside, the whole IG system seems to have morphed into another ineffective executive branch bureaucracy, like many other well-intentioned ideas. Seems like IG’s only allow Congress to avoid its constitutional responsibilities.
 
I know. This probably means the IG’s will be on paid leave for 30 days.

As an aside, the whole IG system seems to have morphed into another ineffective executive branch bureaucracy, like many other well-intentioned ideas. Seems like IG’s only allow Congress to avoid its constitutional responsibilities.
IGs are one of the good things in government. They don’t work for the heads of the agencies and departments and are tasked with investigating issues like abuse authority, misuse of taxpayer money, etc. The government is far too large to investigate every tip from so-called whistleblowers or others about issues within these organizations. That’s what IGs do and they’re good at it. When they find something that requires presidential and congressional attention they report it to them. This is how HRC’s classified emails were initially found, investigated and reported. They do this without the partisan politics which happen when the politicians get involved.
 
IGs are one of the good things in government. They don’t work for the heads of the agencies and departments and are tasked with investigating issues like abuse authority, misuse of taxpayer money, etc. The government is far too large to investigate every tip from so-called whistleblowers or others about issues within these organizations. That’s what IGs do and they’re good at it. When they find something that requires presidential and congressional attention they report it to them. This is how HRC’s classified emails were initially found, investigated and reported. They do this without the partisan politics which happen when the politicians get involved.
The concept of an apolitical watchdog within the Federal government is a fantasy, fairy dust.
 
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