The libs on this board have serious TDS and mental illness. Y’all need to be in straight jackets.
The Big Lie was even crazier than we knew...
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I agree but that is on us. If we elect someone that pushes the envelope, that is our fault. We should elect people that see the bright line.
There is no bright line marv. It’s highly circumstantial.
This thread...these comments
I think you could also add serious msm illness. The performance on the 6th, ohhh my, hook, line, and sinker.
Some things are bright lines, some are not. The decision as to whether or not the military should deploy around the country and seize voting machines is supernova bright.
No it isn’t. Maybe not the military, but I can envision circumstances where voting machines should be seized for examination. What if the Democrats’ claims about Diebold were true? What if the Russians really did hack into machines?
So you wouldn't trust the military if they were to sieze ballot machines for examination?
I wouldn't trust the people, on either side/party, ordering the seizing of the machines.
I believe most military officers are honorable and intelligent.
Except Army second lieutenants, they are dolts.
My comment was that you repeatedly whitewash Trump's unprecedented misconduct as president. You do it in every thread in which he's mentioned, including this one. Here, you've stated his conduct hasn't damaged the country. You've also made the laughable claim that the current administration has done more to damage election integrity than Trump can ever do. Finally, you've made the ridiculous suggestion that the reaction to the Trump presidency has been more damaging than Trump himself.
Your extreme partisanship and fealty to Trump have caused you to lose any semblance of objectivity. But you clearly have no awareness of that, so enjoy life in your little cocoon of denial and delusion. I'm sure you're safe and comfortable there.
I didn’t see any unprecedented misconduct of his handling of our energy situation. Didn’t see any misconduct on inflation. Didn’t see any misconduct on the supply chain. Didn’t see any misconduct on Covid he came up with a vaccine. Those are the important things you should worry about, not social issues!
Yes. This is exactly what happens when deluded people think that when they don’t get their way, democracy is broken. Or they just pretend to seek democracy when they want is as much unrestricted power as they can muster.
Sadly, because of the toxic partisan atmosphere in late 2019/early 2020, well over 100,000,000 US citizens believed for weeks and months that Covid would spread based on WHO was the US president, and that if Trump was NOT president, and an earlier travel ban had been ordered, the spread could be thwarted, and they never looked back or reconsidered their conduct when that thought proved to be insane. Never questioned the unelected government officials that told them half-truths over and over. Never thought about a Swedish leader as a “Trump” - and still don’t pause and think why Sweden ranks 58th in Covid-deaths-per-million or if they maybe had a different valid Covid approach. "My way or the highway" thinking. "Love it or leave it." "All dissent is treason" thinking.
Move forward to now. The same folks never had a second thought about a government ORDERING citizens to take a vaccine that does not prevent additional infection of the vaccinated or additional spread BY the vaccinated to the vulnerable. Yes, I can protect myself if I choose. That's about it. Did I invoke Choice? To hell with choice. They ridiculed "freedumb." Worse, they never considered what else that same government might be able to do if that power were unlimited.
Imagine the outcry if the government ordered every employed citizen to take a drug test and ordered that everybody who tested positive could not work? Yeah, they'd want them some limited government FAST.
Our government is designed to work when there is consensus or crisis. The rest is just running of the mouths of the vote whores. These days, there's no consensus and too much listening.
I detested Bobby. Gutless SOB who refused to run against LBJ until E. McCarthy nearly upset LBJ in the NH primary.
That being said, I'm not aware of what you are referring to. I assume you mean illegal wiretaps on mob figures. Please let me know what you meant. I might be able to hate him even more.
I'm not talking about party members. I'm saying I'd trust the military with the machines before I would any local US Marshall or poll worker.
1. Draft should never have been written. If it was a draft and marked as such it wasn’t subject to FOIA. It still should never have been drafted. This is an example of the thinking that was prevalent in the Trump administration that made his Presidency so disturbing IMO.
2. It never had a chance it be a successful insurrection. It was a perfect example of a protest that got out of control, very similar to many of the BLM protests that also got out of control.
Well, that’s also nonsense. Not one change, proposed or implemented, will have a meaningful suppression affect on the next election. Most likely there will be zero impact.
Yes, no chance the military would have supported anything like this. Zero chance.
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hardly nonsense. They are trying to limit options on how people can vote with no evidence of actual fraud that they are supposedly addressing. Polling locations per capita is much worse in big cities vs out in the country so making everyone vote in person on voting day will tend to lead to longer lines in big cities where dems tend to have an advantage. Longer lines deter voting.
but yea, i am sure the gop didn’t think of that with their bogus law changes.
The military is one of the most trusted institutions in America. There’d be no better way to destroy that trust.
I can understand why a military exercise invading Canada might be drawn up and discussed.
But a draft memo to seize voting machines based on evidence that is contested is a concern.
Agreed statutes that establish finality of elections need to address these problems. Letting every candidate just toss accusations and lawsuits around has to stop. Screw the chads.
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My greatest concern was realized a long time ago - when the IRS targeted Conservative groups and the FBI participated, with the Democrat party, in the attempted coup of a legitimately-elected President.
As usual you go with the orthodoxy of the Party, but never bother to follow up with actual developments, which of course the Party is content to ignore...
The fact is that the Treasury Dept IG released a report in Oct 2017 which basically refuted the claims that "Conservative groups" were exclusively targeted, when it came to IRS scrutiny of 501-C groups applying for tax exempt status. What they discovered that the screening applied just as much to "liberal groups", or in fact any organization using particular keywords...
"What is new now? The original claim was that the filters that the IRS's tax-exempt organizations unit had used were biased against right-wing groups. Now, it turns out that even that was not true. In addition to keywords like "tea party," the unit was also looking for words like "occupy," "progressive," and "green energy."
Actually, that information is not new. We have known for years that the IRS was using both left- and right-oriented search terms, but this report provides exhaustive documentation of that fact."
Remember the IRS Scandal? It was Fake News All Along
Neil Buchanan writes that Trump's dishonesty is a continuation of a strategy of lying Republicans have been honing for years.
www.newsweek.com
It wasn't political ideology the IRS was "searching for". It was groups engaged in political activity who were trying to claim the 501-C exemption. Both on the Left and the Right...
So you don't see a huge difference between initially contesting election results prior to the certification of the EC which occurs on Jan 6 every post Presidential election year and the Big Lie of the past 14 mos? You believe the "chad controversy" somehow spreads the blame where election "finality" is concerned and equate that with Team Trump and his allies still contesting the 2020 election results well into Jan 2022?
Josh Hawley was on one of the wingnut media sites the other day, saying Democrats refuse to accept the result of elections they lose...And no doubt the audience lapped it up, just like he knew they would.
But the evidence tells a different story, when it comes to his claims and trying to equate actual history with what he's helped to perpetuate for the past year... Skip to 5 mins to see how differently Democrats behaved when it came to the conduct of business on Jan 6 during past, "contested" elections...
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Except for Trump’s personal cred, none of Trump’s post election conduct was consequential. If you think it is, that’s your weakness.
I stand by every word. Trump questioned a single election. It had no consequences. Biden, Harris, and the Democrats in Congress attack the legislative actions of different states on grounds already rejected by the Supreme Court. That is well beyond their job descriptions and is consequential.
The 14th Amendment disqualification clause is serious business and the Democrats think it’s a political tactic. The Democrats are indeed doing more damage than Trump would, could, or did.
Hilarious Quotes from Baghdad Bob
Iraq's information minister, dubbed Baghdad Bob, made many outlandish statements during the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.
I absolutely believe that. I see Trump as history. You see him as actively residing in your mind.
Lame retort, but actually funny as well given that it will almost certainly be "liked" by a handful of guys (the other resident Trumpers) who probably already have "Trump 2024" signs on their front lawns.
I can’t think of allowing a human being I have never met dominating my politics and beliefs they way you allow Trump to dominate you. It’s not just you, but most of the Democratic Party similarly see him. Amazing.
TRUMP/DESANTIS 2024
"MAKE AMERICA FLORIDA"
You heard it here first
*Barring stroke(s), heart attack(s), indictments, infighting, or a new reality series opportunity
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Lol. Because trump sheep that still hold office are now ignoring trump's temper tantrums?... lmao.
You realize trump is working on getting every gop politician primaried that crossed him...but yea his post election gestapo crap is meaningless...sarcasm
He has already gotten a few to retire over dealing with the rino crap trump slings at non trumper gop.
Nah that's politics. Did you see what the Arizona Democratic Party did to Sinema? Have you heard AOC and her efforts to tear down Dems that aren't progressive enough. How Manchin is being treated? You and Cosmic are a marriage made in Heaven. Infighting....
At this point I'm beginning to think Trump would win. He'd probably talk about the rising price of gas and food - stuff average people care about instead of radical bullshit about racist bridges, pronouns, and other nonsense. At this point I will vote for anyone, ANYONE, as long as I don't have to see or hear Psaki
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I'm not going to keep going back and forth with you, so I'll close with this. Your assumption about my party affiliation couldn't be more wrong. I was a lifelong registered Republican prior to Trump, and am now an independent. I realize that as someone who's walked away from the Republican Party, I'm probably more deplorable in your mind than a "dirty Dim."
Trump was a uniquely awful and destructive president. I have no doubt that history will judge him accordingly. But keep those partisan blinders on, keep on Trumpin', and enjoy life in your alternate reality.
The only thing worse than temper tantrums are those who think they are a big deal.
Once they get rid of all you RINOs there won't be much of anything left but the lunatics.
