The problem with your argument is the assumption that issues like misinformation, lies, and frivolity can and should be decided by those who have the biggest mouth.
Just when I thought the democrats couldn’t be more disgusting . . .
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He’s rightly charged in both federal cases. His deliberate mishandling of highly classified information deserves punishment. This one is personal to me as I no doubt would already be in Fort Leavenworth prison for doing what he did. He absolutely couldn’t be granted a clearance after what he did but a large percentage of Americans want to re-elect the cretin and let him have access again. It’s incredible.
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we need to change the thread title to
"just when I thought that lawyers couldn't be more disgusting..."
we need to change the thread title to
"just when I thought that lawyers couldn't be more disgusting..."
Exactly what we will get. On Day One she will go back to her sh!t lib self.
So when Trump lies and says that 2000+ ballots in Lancaster Co were "fraudulent", is he lying or just so stupid that he doesn't honestly know the difference between ballots and voter registration applications? And when he fails to mention that the individuals involved were working in Red Lancaster Co to register Republicans is that a simple omission or just an honest mistake?
Now you are going off the deep end. In 2020, many states changed the voting procedures under their Covid emergency authority. When legislatures tried to clean up the mess they were met with law suits and threats of lawsuits from Garland’s DOJ. “Jim Criw on Steroids” became a common liberal exclamation.
Almost all states have moved to a mail system and that opens up the process to mischief. That should be undeniable. Colorado put in a mail system years before Covid and it’s as good as a mail system can be. Other states like Pennsylvania not so much.
We do a pretty good job with post election tabulating and auditing of results. But ballot management and voting is a different story. There is a reason why Democrats OPPOSE EVERY SINGLE BALLOT SECURITY MEASURE. You are naive to think their motive is the make sure all eligible voters vote.
Our post election legal apparatus is not designed to litigate ballot issues. That must be done pre-election. There is an investigation going on in Pennsylvania as I write this. But this kind of election mischief is almost impossible to discover, particularly with same day registration and mail and early voting.
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No. Shapiro is wrong. It won't work.
You’re incapable of intelligently responding to my posts. Post #41 is today’s Exhibit A.
Oh, they might hear it. It has no chance of winning, though.
So why is Shapiro bringing it up?
I don't have the slightest problem with punishing lawyers, within the system, who warrant punishment. There are ethics codes that should be enforced.
I very much do have a problem with threatening it preemptively. Threatening their livelihood? For representing a client?
Not at all. Both sides dealt with the same voting changes. Trump lost.
Only morons think Trump lost to voter fraud. You're not a moron. That Trump didn't lose due to voter fraud, as he claims and his moronic minions believe, is the one and only point here.
Edit to add that I voted by mail this year. It is a very secure method of voting. I'm on the voter rolls as a US and Ohio citizen. I had to request the ballot. I had to provide the appropriate information proving who I am, and I voted. I really like this method.
I'd say you're probably right. They can't go back and do this retroactively. Were there lawsuits over this when the errors were discovered and reported?
Hopefully, viz today's election, we don't get a 270-268 result that renders the error meaningful in the EC.
Wasn't it all sealed up and certified prior to 2021? I thought I read that it was -- but it's been a while since I paid any attention to the issue. Given the effect a census has on states (beyond the electoral votes), I'm surprised there weren't court challenges to it back when it was discovered....or, if there were, that weren't successful.
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Does ever state only mail, mail in ballots to those who request them? I don’t think so. See below for 2020.
Nevada approves plan to mail ballots to all registered voters
The state of Nevada has approved a plan to send absentee ballots to all active voters this November, a major expansion of mail-in voting in the battleground state.
amp.cnn.com
Oregon sends a ballot to every registered voter in the state. They have been doing if for a long time.Does ever state only mail, mail in ballots to those who request them? I don’t think so. See below for 2020.
Nevada approves plan to mail ballots to all registered voters
The state of Nevada has approved a plan to send absentee ballots to all active voters this November, a major expansion of mail-in voting in the battleground state.
I would assume an illegal immigrant gets the ballot and votes.
You avoided my question because you know the answer.
I assume in PA Illegals would get mail in ballots based on what Garland wanted done.
What is the answer? Do you have Google? Look it up.
And why do you “assume” that about PA? Seems like a conspiracy theory to me.
I see no problem with that. Ohio sends the request for a mail in ballot to me because I'm a registered voter. I send it back with the appropriate identification information if I want to vote by mail. If I do that, they send the ballot with the identity envelope back to me so I can fill it out and provide the identification information again. It's super convenient. If you're not doing it, I recommend it. Unless you like hanging out in the line at the voting station. My wife prefers that though and she just voted. Since it wasn't at the beginning of the day or end of the day she didn't have a long wait.Does ever state only mail, mail in ballots to those who request them? I don’t think so. See below for 2020.
Nevada approves plan to mail ballots to all registered voters
The state of Nevada has approved a plan to send absentee ballots to all active voters this November, a major expansion of mail-in voting in the battleground state.
No, when people move their mail gets forwarded for period of time.
Unlikely and if it happened and they voted, they're committing a felony crime. Any illegal alien is highly unlikely to want to commit a felony to get deported.
That's true for a period of time, and when I moved from state to state or country to country, I wouldn't have even considered committing a felony by voting where I wasn't permitted to vote.
Despite what you have been told, voting fraud almost never happens. There are numerous studies out there if you care to learn. Otherwise you are just being played by the leader of a cult of personality.
I learned about election fraud studying the Chicago Daley Machine. Long time ago.
I'm of the mind that we just don't know how much happens.
I'd guess that its incidence is "not as much as some people think" -- but I'm not sure I'd go with "almost never happens", either. And all a study can tell us about is the absence of evidence -- which, as we know, is not the equivalent of evidence of absence.
In any event, I've never heard a good argument against having reasonable safeguards against voter fraud.
It's an argument to sow dissent. It operates from the same logical error as those who think eliminating the EC would mean Dems win every election. Had the EC map been different, the candidates would have acted differently--Harris would have promised more or done different things to get those other votes, not sit idly by and say "oh well." You can't unring that bell.
This is the Trump version of Raskin's statements about the SCt decision on the Colorado decision. I'd bet my entire net worth on my statement. Let's go DBM.
I would never argue against safeguards including government issued ID. I’m pushing back on unsubstantiated claims that there is rampant fraud. There is absolutely zero evidence of that.
But biden having classified documents in his Delaware garage is OK?
People get frustrated by the unequal application of the law. Seems dems get away with a lot more.
This asshole needs to shut the f$ck up. The traitors are those elected officials who refuse to certify election results. He can join that disreputable crew.
And look where it got us as a country...border out of control, prices sky rocketing, gas prices up, economy in bad shape...
Well, you're free to vote accordingly. But people need to stop spreading BS about the 2020 election. Even Trump's own lawyers knew it was a lie.
