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Why don’t you mind your own business and let parents, along with doctors who actually understand the complicated process make the decisions. You feel like you know better? Shame on your self righteousness. The fact that you’d vote on something that you know so little about is telling
You’re a coward for advocating for the abuse of children. You should be ashamed and no I won’t mind own business when adults abuse children.
 
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It looks as if you are afraid of her.

Which is stupid because she can beat Biden whereas Trump cannot…especially from prison
I already told GOAT. I admittedly don’t like her. There is zero chance I’m voting for her now. Previously, I would have voted for her.
I hope every Republican who isn’t for making it illegal to chop off children’s breasts and inject them with puberty blockers loses.
 
Les than 7% of this small number of surgeries are 17-18 year olds.

Your freak out is unwarranted
Nope. The time to address a problem is early before it spirals. Now an argument can be made that with the passage of Obergefell that the horse has already left the barn. I agree with that. But at least on the Trans issue, let’s try our best to nip it in the bud before “transitioning” is as popular with the youth as getting your ears pierced.
 
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Les than 7% of this small number of surgeries are 17-18 year olds.

Your freak out is unwarranted
“The study found that a fraction of gender-affirming surgeries – about 7% — were done on patients ages 12 to 18, but some experts think that number sounds high. Wright said the majority of these surgeries tended to be among 17- and 18-year-olds and were the less-invasive procedures like breast or chest procedures.”

I assume you misread the article. That’s a direct quote from it.
 
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I already told GOAT. I admittedly don’t like her. There is zero chance I’m voting for her now. Previously, I would have voted for her.
I hope every Republican who isn’t for making it illegal to chop off children’s breasts and inject them with puberty blockers loses.
The problem is that she doesn't appear to have advocated for what you think she has. The question didn't have anything to do with surgery, as far as I can tell. You should see if you can find a link to the entire interview.
 
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“The study found that a fraction of gender-affirming surgeries – about 7% — were done on patients ages 12 to 18, but some experts think that number sounds high. Wright said the majority of these surgeries tended to be among 17- and 18-year-olds and were the less-invasive procedures like breast or chest procedures.”

I assume you misread the article. That’s a direct quote from it.
And supports my point far more than yours
 
You also thought the vaccine had utility for young healthy people, so I realize I’m talking with a massive joker. A clown.
Science still supports this position. The vaccines protect all ages and should be taken advantage of.

Why some continue to politicize medical care is bewildering.
 
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The problem is that she doesn't appear to have advocated for what you think she has. The question didn't have anything to do with surgery, as far as I can tell. You should see if you can find a link to the entire interview.
You don’t know what I think. You’re having a discussion with yourself.
 
I'm just going by what you're saying. You said you can't vote for her now, and said it had something to do with supporting child abuse. But I don't think the clip you shared has anything to do with that.

Wait, we shouldn't be making voting choices based upon an edited 7 second Twitter clip?
 
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Wait, we shouldn't be making voting choices based upon an edited 7 second Twitter clip?
Dbm lives his life relying on Twitter twit tweets for his information and his opinions. Of course, he and others vote based on what they see on Twitter.
 
Excellent! There should be no push back to bans on transition surgeries and puberty blockers for those under 18 then.
Wrong. Your definition of mutilation is ridiculous. It’s so funny listening to all of you who know nothing of the subject trying to run other people’s lives. And what a coincidence you seem to be the ones who say you want LESS government. But you don’t trust doctors and parents to make their own medical decision. I’d be very surprised if you know a trans person or even read anything on the subject. As always, the definitive opinions on things you are ignorant on is amusing. ( including anyone who likes your post too) So easy to make decisions for others. Lol
 
Wrong. Your definition of mutilation is ridiculous. It’s so funny listening to all of you who know nothing of the subject trying to run other people’s lives. And what a coincidence you seem to be the ones who say you want LESS government. But you don’t trust doctors and parents to make their own medical decision. I’d be very surprised if you know a trans person or even read anything on the subject. As always, the definitive opinions on things you are ignorant on is amusing. ( including anyone who likes your post too) So easy to make decisions for others. Lol
I was rolling around with a trans Junior High Principal in 2005. Before it was fashionable. I was in his office everyday.

You liberal Indiana hillbilly’s think all this shit is for show. Those of us in real society have to deal with these freaks, and in my case they hold control over your academic future.

Could you imagine being 12 years old and having a mentally unstable man that thinks he’s a woman having sway over your academic future?

I turned out okay. Kelley. Full ride. Six figures upon graduation. The whole nine yards. I learned to tell them what they want to hear.

But others don’t survive these freaks.
 
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Now I understand why you're so sensitive on this issue, being another #metoo survivor
Funny. I realized I was opening myself up to that joke.

An alter boy of three years, I never felt uncomfortable in the rectory, but that principals office sure was creepy.
 
You dumb bitch. I was rolling around with a trans Junior High Principal in 2005. Before it was fashionable. I was in his office everyday.

You liberal Indiana hillbilly’s think all this shit is for show. Those of us in real society have to deal with these freaks, and in my case they hold control over your academic future.

Could you imagine being 12 years old and having a mentally unstable man that thinks he’s a woman having sway over your academic future?

I turned out okay. Kelley. Full ride. Six figures upon graduation. The whole nine yards. I learned to tell them what they want to hear.

But others don’t survive these freaks.
Well, at least you're not bitter about it . . . 🙄 You should delete your first three words. Too much, dude.

I'm curious, what do you mean by "others don't survive these freaks?" What exactly did this Jr High Prinicipal do that was so awful?
 
It's not going to be easy but she's got major buzz right now. She also has the Koch network endorsement and the virtually unlimited funds that come with that. Jamie Dimon, as you noted, is also onboard.

It's all about momentum and she's gained some as a result of her strong debate performances. She's got another chance to shine in front of a big audience at the next debate on Dec 6. What she needs is for this to whittle down to a two-person race, and that might not be far off. Ramaswamy's campaign is on life support with his political director defecting today to the Trump campaign. Christie and DeSantis are also going nowhere fast. If it's Haley and Trump head-to-head and she does well in the early states, including her home state of South Carolina, it'll be game on!

Will be talking with my wife tonight about getting involved in some meaningful way. I don't align with her in some areas, but what I'm looking for more than anything right now is energetic, competent, youthful (relatively speaking) and sane leadership. She checks those boxes.
you are beyond delustional dude your pure hate blinds you to reality. She has no chance at all but I hope you waste all your time trying to help her.
 
To your point . . .

I don't even know what to refer to him as anymore. "Asshole" doesn't begin to cover it.

Your name calling is so petty imagine one man making somebody so upset. i doubt you could survive trump winning again honestly i have never seen somebody so unhinged like you about a man you never even met. Dont you have any hobbies at all to distract you,
 
Your name calling is so petty imagine one man making somebody so upset. i doubt you could survive trump winning again honestly i have never seen somebody so unhinged like you about a man you never even met. Dont you have any hobbies at all to distract you,

You started a thread about him because he doesn't like a politician you do.

Pot meet kettle.
 
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you are beyond delustional dude your pure hate blinds you to reality. She has no chance at all but I hope you waste all your time trying to help her.
You were posting nonsense polls and making dumb predictions that Trump would win before the 2020. He lost big time. You disappeared for quite a while after that, I presume to lick your wounds. Now you're back for more punishment.
 
You were posting nonsense polls and making dumb predictions that Trump would win before the 2020. He lost big time. You disappeared for quite a while after that, I presume to lick your wounds. Now you're back for more punishment.

What about the red wave in 22? Instead all the Trump flunkies flopped on their face. Herschel!
 
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Nope. The time to address a problem is early before it spirals. Now an argument can be made that with the passage of Obergefell that the horse has already left the barn. I agree with that. But at least on the Trans issue, let’s try our best to nip it in the bud before “transitioning” is as popular with the youth as getting your ears pierced.
Yes because who doesn’t want major surgery? Just for fun? The misinformation is astounding really.
 
I was rolling around with a trans Junior High Principal in 2005. Before it was fashionable. I was in his office everyday.

You liberal Indiana hillbilly’s think all this shit is for show. Those of us in real society have to deal with these freaks, and in my case they hold control over your academic future.

Could you imagine being 12 years old and having a mentally unstable man that thinks he’s a woman having sway over your academic future?

I turned out okay. Kelley. Full ride. Six figures upon graduation. The whole nine yards. I learned to tell them what they want to hear.

But others don’t survive these freaks.
Oh what happened to the dumb bitch comment? News flash: you didn’t turn out ok. You are deeply warped.
 
I was rolling around with a trans Junior High Principal in 2005. Before it was fashionable. I was in his office everyday.

You liberal Indiana hillbilly’s think all this shit is for show. Those of us in real society have to deal with these freaks, and in my case they hold control over your academic future.

Could you imagine being 12 years old and having a mentally unstable man that thinks he’s a woman having sway over your academic future?

I turned out okay. Kelley. Full ride. Six figures upon graduation. The whole nine yards. I learned to tell them what they want to hear.

But others don’t survive these freaks.
PS what do you consider real society? You calling others’ hillbillies is really rich.
 


Nice story but Wiles isn’t stupid enough to have Trump focus on Haley. She will tell him to continue to keep pressure on DeSantis
 
If you understood what democracy was, you wouldn’t even say that.
We've been moving toward direct democracy since the first socialist president, Woodrow Wilson, signed the 16th and 17th amendment which was later ratified during the progressive movement of the 1910s and 1920s. It wasn't just the US but throughout Europe and Russia too.
 
We've been moving toward direct democracy since the first socialist president, Woodrow Wilson, signed the 16th and 17th amendment which was later ratified during the progressive movement of the 1910s and 1920s. It wasn't just the US but throughout Europe and Russia too.
Neat trick. Wilson wasn’t President until 1913.
 
Why don’t you mind your own business and let parents, along with doctors who actually understand the complicated process make the decisions. You feel like you know better? Shame on your self righteousness. The fact that you’d vote on something that you know so little about is telling
Zeke and fellow peeps who object to laws banning surgeries or puberty blockers for minors: should the state stay out of a parental decision to send their child to conversion therapy? If a parent and a licensed Christian therapist/psychologist wanted to do this, would you let them? (I would not).


Another interesting analogy: Should the state forbid exorcisms on minors?
 
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