The arrogance is breathtaking.
Sure, you would have been different than everyone else.
You would have single handedly changed the course of human history. You would have convinced everyone with your force of personality.
Steve Schmidt explains how the Republican Party became the party of American fascists
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Sure, you would have been different than everyone else.
You would have single handedly changed the course of human history. You would have convinced everyone with your force of personality.
It’s a combination of arrogance and supreme ignorance. Every single human psychologist worth their salt, regardless of political affiliation, would laugh at this dumbassery. It’s the equivalent of interacting with angry teen know it all.
Laws don't count for Trump? Fascist much?
i stand corrected.
once independently wealthy and with no more real need, and the fact that his slaves were probably becoming old as well, he found Jesus on the matter.
but only after actively promoting slave trade earlier in life.
better late than never though.
that said, several founding fathers didn't even release their slaves even upon their own deaths iirc, but i am open to correction if wrong on that.
the world new right and wrong in the 18th century.
slave owners owned slaves not because they thought it was right, but because they could.
they have no excuses. nor should anyone excuse them.
non slave holding founding fathers can legitimately claim there was nothing they could do about it.
slave holding founding fathers' sins against man are not absolved or even lessened by anything else they did in life.
those who defend or defended them are no better.
You're saying replacing electors with your own isn't fascist behavior?
EXPLAINER: How fake electors tried to throw result to Trump
State attorneys general and the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol are digging deeper into the role that fake slates of electors played in the desperate effort by then-President Donald Trump to cling to power after his 2020 defeat.
apnews.com
SO WHAT WERE TRUMP ALLIES TRYING TO DO?
On Dec. 14, 2020, as Democratic electors in key swing states met at their seat of state government to cast their votes, Republicans who would have been electors had Trump won gathered as well. They declared themselves the rightful electors and submitted false Electoral College certificates declaring Trump the winner of the presidential election in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin,
Those certificates from the “alternate electors” in seven states were sent to Congress. Several of Trump’s Republican allies in the House and Senate used them to justify delaying or blocking the certification of the election during the joint session of Congress.
Prosecutors in Georgia opened their investigation in February 2021, just weeks after Trump made a phone call to Brad Raffensperger, Georgia's secretary of state, and urged him to “find” enough votes to overturn the results of the election there.
Trump, in Taped Call, Pressured Georgia Official to ‘Find’ Votes to Overturn Election (Published 2021)
The president vaguely warned of a “criminal offense” as he pressured Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in the call, according to an audio recording.
Not fascist behavior?
That's an outright coup attempt. Are you you crazy?
The slave owners couldn't just release slaves at the time due to state laws considering them property. They were part of the estate.
What would they have done if all the slaves, who were mostly illiterate and owned no property we released at once. There was barely a federal government and no money or programs to help them.
Marc Short, who was Pence's chief of staff, said in videotaped testimony that Pence told Trump "many times" that he did not have the authority to stop the vote certification in Congress as the Republican president sought.
Gregory Jacob, an attorney for Pence, said the main proponent of that theory, attorney John Eastman, admitted in front of the president two days before the attack that his plan to have Pence halt the procedure would violate the law.
www.reuters.com
Gregory Jacob, an attorney for Pence, said the main proponent of that theory, attorney John Eastman, admitted in front of the president two days before the attack that his plan to have Pence halt the procedure would violate the law.
Trump pressed, threatened Pence to overturn election, panel hears
Trump has repeatedly denied wrongdoing, while repeating false accusations that he lost only because of widespread fraud.
www.reuters.com
If Trump gets the nomination and wins again the meltdown by the left will break the internet.
Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, pressed 29 Republican state lawmakers in Arizona — 27 more than previously known — to set aside Joe Biden's popular vote victory and “choose” presidential electors, according to emails obtained by The Washington Post.
Not fascist behavior?
Are you saying it has recovered from Biden beating the crap out of Trump in 2020? Seems to me that it's still showing the cracks caused by the right from that landslide.
Brad Raffensperger said it himself in the 60 Minutes segment I posted. Here you go, buddy.
i certainly would have tried.
you and others, obviously not so much.
and you are the ignorant one.
slave holders and the founding fathers were the fraction of 1%, not the 99 plus %.
and on top of the slavery thing, Washington and other founding fathers were not so generous or fair either with the non rich who fought along side them during the American Revolution, and effectively reneged on promises made to them in exchange for their service.
The top US Generals seemed concerned about a coup. Milley himself called Trumps behavior and rhetoric "A Reichstag moment" and "the gospel of the Fuhrer"
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Nope. Fascists would have had the democrat electors arrested.
How did they reneg on promises?
Are you reading the British version of the American Revolution?
sure they could.
it was the will, not the ability, that stopped them.
and slaves had marketable skills.
and did they owe said slaves something, absolutely.
that those today who never owned slaves, nor did their parents or grandparents, don't owe those who were never slaves, nor were their parents or grandparents, doesn't mean those who did in the day didn't owe those that were in the day.
Not if they owed creditors money. They were mostly cash poor asset wealthy farmers in the southern colonies back then.
Read about Hitler and the communists or Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam. Stalin too. Did any democrats get liquidated or sent to a gulag in this fascist coup?
I hope Trump wins just for spite.
You really have zero clue. What do you think happened at the end of the War. Also, there were free slaves in the south before the Civil War.
The South overall developed two distinct groups of free Negroes. Those in the Upper South were more numerous: the 1860 census showed only 144 free Negroes in Arkansas, 773 in Mississippi, and 932 in Florida, while in Maryland there were 83,942; in Virginia, 58,042; in North Carolina, 30,463; and in Louisiana, 18,647.
So, no other fascists governments besides those governments? Like...Myanmar? Saudi Arabia, Syria, Thailand, Turkey, Russia, North Korea, China, Philippines, Cuba, Mali, and many more.
And then you have the right wing loons here:
The US is still on the path to becoming a 'fascist country': sociologist
"I don't think this fight over elemental democracy is over, by any means," Frances Fox Piven said, cautioning against post-midterms complacency.
www.businessinsider.com
You are an embarrassment and you're no patriot.
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I don't think you understand what fascism is.
From the very liberal (not) Council on Foreign Relations
What Is Fascism?
In this free resource, learn how Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler rose to power and the lessons their political journeys hold for today.
world101.cfr.org
Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen. This model of government stands in contrast to liberal democracies, which support individual rights, competitive elections, and political dissent.
In many ways, fascist regimes are revolutionary because they advocate the overthrow of existing systems of government and the persecution of political enemies. However, when it advances their interests, such regimes can also be highly conservative in their championing of traditional values related to the role of women, social hierarchy, and obedience to authority. And although fascist leaders typically claim to support the everyman, in reality their regimes often align with powerful business interests.
Sound famialiar?
not their slaves' problem.
and they were by far the largest owners of the best asset there is and was.
land, and they owned tons of it.
again though, your intense defense of the morally indefensible is duly noted.
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Reconstruction and former slaves living in terrible conditions poor and illiterate. Andrew Johnson was a big factor in slowing Reconstruction down.
Ask yourself how the upper south differed from the deep south. Topography is a big reason.
You have zero clue.
It's a message board, forgive me for not naming them all.So, no other fascists governments besides those governments? Like...Myanmar? Saudi Arabia, Syria, Thailand, Turkey, Russia, North Korea, China, Philippines, and many more.
And then you have the right wing loons here:
The US is still on the path to becoming a 'fascist country': sociologist
"I don't think this fight over elemental democracy is over, by any means," Frances Fox Piven said, cautioning against post-midterms complacency.
You are an embarrassment and you're no patriot.
If America is becoming fascist its because of leftists.
Don't be an asshole.
Why yes it does. It sounds just like the Democratic party.I don't think you understand what fascism is.
From the very liberal (not) Council on Foreign Relations
What Is Fascism?
In this free resource, learn how Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler rose to power and the lessons their political journeys hold for today.
Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen. This model of government stands in contrast to liberal democracies, which support individual rights, competitive elections, and political dissent.
In many ways, fascist regimes are revolutionary because they advocate the overthrow of existing systems of government and the persecution of political enemies. However, when it advances their interests, such regimes can also be highly conservative in their championing of traditional values related to the role of women, social hierarchy, and obedience to authority. And although fascist leaders typically claim to support the everyman, in reality their regimes often align with powerful business interests.
Sound famialiar?
You don't know what fascism is. Where is our reichstage fire or night of the long knives? How many state enterprises does the US government own?
Your definition could easily be applied to the left, the part after however is applying fascism to something unrelated.
Your definition could easily be applied to the left, the part after however is applying fascism to something unrelated.
I don't think you understand what fascism is.
From the very liberal (not) Council on Foreign Relations
What Is Fascism?
In this free resource, learn how Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler rose to power and the lessons their political journeys hold for today.
Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen. This model of government stands in contrast to liberal democracies, which support individual rights, competitive elections, and political dissent.
In many ways, fascist regimes are revolutionary because they advocate the overthrow of existing systems of government and the persecution of political enemies. However, when it advances their interests, such regimes can also be highly conservative in their championing of traditional values related to the role of women, social hierarchy, and obedience to authority. And although fascist leaders typically claim to support the everyman, in reality their regimes often align with powerful business interests.
Sound famialiar?
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Again, what do you think happened to former slaves after the war?
You have to name call because you don't understand what you're talking about. Stop digging.
I am sure a helluva lot smarter than you are.Liberals are so blinded by what is systematically being done to this country and hung up on whatever definitions you can find for some word you want to use. Your definition is about 90% exactly what your party is.
How does it feel to find out you are a fascist?
To quote you, '' you can't really be this dumb can you?''
You seriously think this has anything to actually do with asylum? The closest thing about asylum on this border crisis is that people like you need to be in one.
How many have you taken in so far?
What is systematically being done to this country? What makes me a fascist? I posted the definition above.
How many kids have you adopted?
You don't understand, because you've probably never left whatever state in which you live. I've been to 82 countries, including 6 weeks in Colombia last year. You want to see despair, look at Venezuelans prostituting themselves to survive across the Colombian border. Or buying a cargo container worth of Dr. Pepper at a huge loss to themselves just to receive US Dollars in Aruba. You really have no idea what is happening in the world. I've been all over Africa. Ever see a $1 Trillion dollar bill? You will in Zimbabwe. They sell them as souvenirs.
You're a fool.
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And it is the exact definition of what Democrats are doing to this country. Who is telling people what kind of cars they can buy? What kind of stoves and furnaces they can buy ? What they can and can't say anymore?
Sorry...you're finally right about one thing. I responded to my own post. Desperate? Nah.
