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Profiles in Courage

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Mike Pence gets the award for January 6th. However everybody was afraid to talk before January 6th and also after January 6th. A bunch of cowards - all of them.

Let's not forget that all but two Republicans voted against having any of these hearings. And those two are now viewed to be pariahs by the GOP.
 
What was Biden to Obama? Or does it only work one way?
I don't know about Pence, but my understanding is that Biden was not a lapdog. Like Cheney before him, he was a very consequential Vice President.

It's such a strange job. The Veep has the opportunity to blaze his own path thanks to the fact that he's the one guy in the Executive branch that the President can't fire. On the other hand, said opportunity almost always only comes from the President because the Constitution gives the Veep virtually no responsibility to be independently exercised.
 
He was a lapdog.

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Not fair. VP’s are expected to be lapdogs… it’s part of the job description. Thank goodness he knew where to draw the line or we’d be no better than a 3rd world banana republic now
No shit. The TDS is strong this week.
 
I don't know about Pence, but my understanding is that Biden was not a lapdog. Like Cheney before him, he was a very consequential Vice President.

It's such a strange job. The Veep has the opportunity to blaze his own path thanks to the fact that he's the one guy in the Executive branch that the President can't fire. On the other hand, said opportunity almost always only comes from the President because the Constitution gives the Veep virtually no responsibility to be independently exercised.
When Biden took the VP job it was conditional upon him being the last person in the room with Obama regarding important decisions. Pence was a sucker who got thrown under the bus-literally at the very end.
 
Kinda my take. Pence defended the most vile person to ever hold the office without equivocation, until he finally couldn't without committing treason.
Trump - of whom I’m no fan - is not the most vile person to ever hold the office without equivocation. That’s patent Trump Derangement Syndrome. He’s a huge asshole and a buffoon but he’s no Andrew Jackson or Taylor or Tyler.
 
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I don't know about Pence, but my understanding is that Biden was not a lapdog. Like Cheney before him, he was a very consequential Vice President.

It's such a strange job. The Veep has the opportunity to blaze his own path thanks to the fact that he's the one guy in the Executive branch that the President can't fire. On the other hand, said opportunity almost always only comes from the President because the Constitution gives the Veep virtually no responsibility to be independently exercised.
Wow. Cheney put fracking on the energy map. The energy sector (fracking) played a dominant role in Obama’s meager economic growth. Without fracking, Obama had nothing.

And now you mention Cheney and Biden in the same breath as being consequential? I don’t think so.
 
Trump - of whom I’m no fan - is not the most vile person to ever hold the office without equivocation. That’s patent Trump Derangement Syndrome. He’s a huge asshole and a buffoon but he’s no Andrew Jackson or Taylor or Tyler.

Okay, how about "the most vile since Andrew Jackson or Taylor or Tyler."
 
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Trump - of whom I’m no fan - is not the most vile person to ever hold the office without equivocation. That’s patent Trump Derangement Syndrome. He’s a huge asshole and a buffoon but he’s no Andrew Jackson or Taylor or Tyler.
What did Taylor & Tyler do?

Didn’t Taylor die after like a year?
 
Wow. Cheney put fracking on the energy map. The energy sector (fracking) played a dominant role in Obama’s meager economic growth. Without fracking, Obama had nothing.

And now you mention Cheney and Biden in the same breath as being consequential? I don’t think so.
Are you just being disagreeable for the fun of it?
 
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