Just more people/bodies to exploit for money.They are just pro birth. Once born, it is screw you, everyone for themselves
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Just more people/bodies to exploit for money.They are just pro birth. Once born, it is screw you, everyone for themselves
That would make it opaque to you.Don't worry,he won't listen,and he won't concede that it's factual,even if it's obvious to anyone with a brain.
What would you say to the unvaccinated if their reason for not getting vaccinated is based on their doctor’s recommendation.I agree with everything you're saying here. I got the vaccine about the first day I was able. It took me some effort to talk my wife into it (which is interesting considering the politicization, as I'm mostly Republican and she's mostly a Dem). But she finally gave in and is glad she did.
But I'm not surprised that so many people are resisting, if not refusing, getting the vaccine. And some of the people I know who haven't gotten it are hardly political cranks or just generally off-center. Yeah, in some cases they think the virus is overhyped hysteria. But usually I've found that they're just cautious about putting something rushed to market into their veins -- and have what is not an irrational concern about potential long-term side effects.
Personally, I think it's worth the risk. The choice between a fairly good chance at death and the possibility of a side effect down the road seems like it has Hobson's name written all over it. But you'd be surprised how many I've talked to who have more fear of the latter than the former.
If they have a medical reason not to get vaccinated, that’s one thing. Otherwise, I’d certainly get a second opinion, since over 96% of medical doctors themselves are vaccinated.What would you say to the unvaccinated if their reason for not getting vaccinated is based on their doctor’s recommendation.
Who are these people you reference?They are just pro birth. Once born, it is screw you, everyone for themselves
"Quack".What would you say to the unvaccinated if their reason for not getting vaccinated is based on their doctor’s recommendation.
So the result is discharge, not a forced vaccination, when it's refused.
Pretty much the same result as in the private sector . . . you lose your job or you can't go to college where you've enrolled. But no forced vaccination . . .
. . . like I said elsewhere, you can do whatever you want so long as you're willing to live with the consequences.
My bad. I posted it as OT in response to the discussion creeping into so many BB threads. Will say much of it has been civil and informative, for my part have shifted to believing that mandating vaccinations is pointless since it 'seems' with the new 'delta' variant to have little effect on diminishing transmission rates. Though as yet that's far from certain, still believe masking and social distancing have a role to play w.r.t. diminishing the threat to children who are not yet cleared/eligible for vaccinations. As for adults that don't want to get vaccinated, well, it's their funeral.I know it is the off season and all but my REAL question is...
Why hasn't this thread been locked?
And the organization will also be forced to deal with the consequences.
1) VA Health will add significant numbers to it's participants.
2) military units will suffer loss of troops, many units will be unable to complete their mission
3) the overall military will suffer decreased operational readiness due to loss of highly specialized troops. Re-Training for those positions will be overwhelmed, less effective, and slow to respond.
4) recruiting will become even more difficult than it is now
You can create a similar list for civilian organizations who mandate.
The COS is no leader...he's a political buffoon puppet who damaged morale by announcing his mandate to force troops to take an unapproved vaccine.
Who are these people you reference?
Not debating you on abortion, but appears you are painting a broad brush. I'm sure there are as many or more pro-abortion folks that can be included, correct? Generally, helping the poor or those in need has nothing to do with your stance on abortion.Everyone irate about abortion but never want to help the poor or those in need.
baaa baaabecause of all of the stubborn unvaccinated stupid plague rats
1) Illogical BS.
2) Unsupported and paranoid conjecture especially as troops and units once vaccinated will become largely impervious to the virus and better able to ensure operational readiness.
3) See previous.
4) Likely of negligible consequence.
Agree you can doubtless create any number of simalar BS lists. Pretty clear who the real "buffoon" is.
1) They're going to eventually be eligible anyway if they aren't already.1) Fact. Veterans that separate with admin discharge are eligible for VA healthcare. Immediately in many cases.
2) You are ignorant about the military and how units function. If a fighter squadron were to lose two of its mechanics they'd be grounded.
3) See previous
4) > 50% of US Army have refused the vaccine. Would they have joined knowing that they'd be forced to take it? Yep, negligable.
Don't speak to things you have zero knowledge of. Fool.
You forgot the Mr. T line at the end.1) They're going to eventually be eligible anyway if they aren't already.
2) Maybe that's why the intent is to phase in the requirement over time. How would it be any different if they get sick with Covid and can't function or die? Or did you forget that the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt was docked in Guam for two months because 1200 crewmen caught Covid?
3) Same.
4) Wrong. Among active-duty troops, 68 percent have received at least one dose, and as of two days ago about 64 percent of the 1.3 million active-duty service members are fully vaccinated, and climbing fast. Many naval vessels have already reached 100%.
What is it about combat readiness you don't understand? Oh right, everything.
What, it wasn't suffciently implied? Anyway, it was already taken. Strong affinity for originality.You forgot the Mr. T line at the end.
Not debating you on abortion, but appears you are painting a broad brush. I'm sure there are as many or more pro-abortion folks that can be included, correct? Generally, helping the poor or those in need has nothing to do with your stance on abortion.
1) They're going to eventually be eligible anyway if they aren't already.
2) Maybe that's why the intent is to phase in the requirement over time. How would it be any different if they get sick with Covid and can't function or die? Or did you forget that the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt was docked in Guam for two months because 1200 crewmen caught Covid?
3) Same.
4) Wrong. Among active-duty troops, 68 percent have received at least one dose, and as of two days ago about 64 percent of the 1.3 million active-duty service members are fully vaccinated, and climbing fast. Many naval vessels have already reached 100%.
What is it about combat readiness you don't understand? Oh right, everything.
Have all the men's basketball team been fully vaccinated yet? Coaches & staff? Administration? I'm for the masks, full vaccinations & any precautions necessary to ensure the optimum health of all. I first got Covid-19 in April of 2020. It nearly killed me twice in four days. I have had serious heart problems since birth, & serious immune system problems since birth as well....here's a bone. Have fun. 🍎
Challenge to Indiana University vaccine mandate reaches Supreme Court
A lawyer representing Indiana University students asked the Supreme Court Friday to block the school's vaccine mandate that is set to take effect this fall while the appeals process plays out.www.cnn.com
Even more than the Joint Chiefs it seems. "Campaign medal recipient", eh? Well done. Really. How many of those have been handed out? Wasn't it something like 2.8 million just for Iraq and Afghanistan? You've come by your opinions honestly but it's not like overseas service is a small club that makes whatever you say gospel or more astute than any other, what was that word you used, oh yeah, 'gomer'.I'd say I know quite a lot about combat readiness, considering I'm a campaign medal recipient.
1) They won't be eligible all at once, and some won't ever be eligible. If there are large numbers of separation then it could overload an already overloaded system.
2) Getting sick and unable to perform your duties is a whole lot different than gone for good. Military training for specialist jobs take many months.
3) Same
4) Guess the Marine Corps Commandant disagrees with you...guess he understands nothing about this as well
Now tell me what your military background is gomer
Guess you missed this part:You call me out for having zero knowledge of combat readiness and then downplay the significance of being in theatre...after you've read a couple books.
You're a real douche.
And for the record, it's more like two or three hundred. You?...a lot of subsequent reading that continues to this day. Freely concede that there is no real comparison between any of that and 'being there'...
Dont get me started in your hypocritical ideology. I don't really have a stance of abortion,so this isn't something that is near and dear. However,don't you idiots think it's funny how you try to ban guns because "guns kill people",yet you are pro choice,which kills way more? It really is hilarious,the level of stupidity most democrats(not saying you,as I don't know for sure,but I am sure you will tell me,lol) are on.Exactly.
Hope you don't claim to be pro-life.
Uh....have you not seen that there is a spike in cases right now....among those vaccinated! Why isn't there a vaccine for the flu? Why isn't there a vaccine for the common cold? But they came up with one for covid in months? Cmon man....do some research...the vaccine is a false safety.Have all the men's basketball team been fully vaccinated yet? Coaches & staff? Administration? I'm for the masks, full vaccinations & any precautions necessary to ensure the optimum health of all. I first got Covid-19 in April of 2020. It nearly killed me twice in four days. I have had serious heart problems since birth, & serious immune system problems since birth as well.
My worst symptom (which I still occasionally get) from Covid-19, was my brain swelling up inside my head. This is a very scary feeling, when you first get it, & every time you experience it. To the unvaccinated, who choose not to be vaccinated/protected, if you won't do it for yourself, please do it for your parents, grandparents, teachers, sick neighbors & acquaintances, casual acquaintances, coworkers, & all who might not survive your Covid-19, in their fragile systems & bodies. To date, the CDC & WHO have cataloged over 200 symptoms associated with Covid-19.
Just di it
Common Sense
There is a vaccine (multiple) for the flu/Spanish Influenza. You can get one of several strains/vaccine strains every year. Are you kidding? The common cold isn't half as deadly as the flu or Covid-19 & it's variants/strains. The CDC/WHO has to date cataloged over 200 different symptoms of Covid-19, & counting. There is a spike now, because the CDC still hasn't fully approved getting children 12 & under vaccinated. Studies have shown, whether you get Covid-19 for the first time, or get it after having been previously vaccinated for it, you stand a much better survival rate if you get vaccinated.Uh....have you not seen that there is a spike in cases right now....among those vaccinated! Why isn't there a vaccine for the flu? Why isn't there a vaccine for the common cold? But they came up with one for covid in months? Cmon man....do some research...the vaccine is a false safety.
Go ahead... believe everything they tell you. Science(which they are ignoring) is what I choose. Do some research. The cdc is only there to make you feel good,while they ignore the science they paid to have done/tested, sits in the corner. Wake up snowflakeThere is a vaccine (multiple) for the flu/Spanish Influenza. You can get one of several strains/vaccine strains every year. Are you kidding? The common cold isn't half as deadly as the flu or Covid-19 & it's variants/strains. The CDC/WHO has to date cataloged over 200 different symptoms of Covid-19, & counting. There is a spike now, because the CDC still hasn't fully approved getting children 12 & under vaccinated. Studies have shown, whether you get Covid-19 for the first time, or get it after having been previously vaccinated for it, you stand a much better survival rate if you get vaccinated.
Do as you wish, but when your parents, grandparents, the sick, elderly & others start to get sick & die around you, just keep on keeping on, slaughtering those who have little or no chance with survival/being near you.
It's all on you & yours
Typhoid Mary
Just do us/concerned citizens/patriotic Americans one favor, visit t(R)ump early & often from now on, capiche? Btw, don't worry about washing your hands, getting vaccinated or wearing those useless masks. You know better.Go ahead... believe everything they tell you. Science(which they are ignoring) is what I choose. Do some research. The cdc is only there to make you feel good,while they ignore the science they paid to have done/tested, sits in the corner. Wake up snowflake
Masks are pointless....that's why people who wear them still get covid. Why don't we wear masks to prevent the flu?Just do us/concerned citizens/patriotic Americans one favor, visit t(R)ump early & often from now on, capiche? Btw, don't worry about washing your hands, getting vaccinated or wearing those useless masks. You know better.
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2024 will thank you for it
Doc Survival
Awesome...here we go again.Masks are pointless....that's why people who wear them still get covid. Why don't we wear masks to prevent the flu?
I read your posts and I see no indication that you believe in...let alone follow Science.Go ahead... believe everything they tell you. Science(which they are ignoring) is what I choose. Do some research. The cdc is only there to make you feel good,while they ignore the science they paid to have done/tested, sits in the corner. Wake up snowflake
Ignorance at its finest. Carry on snowflakeI read your posts and I see no indication that you believe in...let alone follow Science.
Ohhhh . . . no you dint . . . duck . . . .Ignorance at its finest. Carry on snowflake
Ennhhhh . . . would the gentleman from Florida or Louisiana of Scotch-Irish descent care to amend his remarks according to the suggestions above?I think if we dial back the hyperbole a little bit there are some basic things that everyone should agree on. One, masks do very little to prevent the transmission of the virus to the mask wearer UNLESS you’re talking about N95 masks which very few people have. Two, the vaccines do not perfectly prevent infection and transmission of the virus but they mitigate the symptoms and increase the odds that you won’t die or be hospitalized. Three, vaccinated people are certainly getting COVID, an even smaller amount are being hospitalized, and an infinitesimal number are even dying but it is not a “spike” among vaccinated people and nothing remotely approaching a majority. The bottom line is that there is some underlying truth in what everyone is saying but you’re twisting it and taking it to extremes to fit your narratives.
It's airborne...and can travel through masks...but people who aren't wearing masks are passing it on?....makes perfect sense...smhEnnhhhh . . . would the gentleman from Florida or Louisiana of Scotch-Irish descent care to amend his remarks according to the suggestions above?
Agree with your first sentence, if not the specifics of what you present as 'consensus'.I think if we dial back the hyperbole a little bit there are some basic things that everyone should agree on. One, masks do very little to prevent the transmission of the virus UNLESS you’re talking about N95 masks which very few people have. Two, the vaccines do not consistently prevent infection and transmission of the virus but they mitigate the symptoms and increase the odds that you won’t die or be hospitalized. Three, vaccinated people are certainly getting COVID, an even smaller amount are being hospitalized, and an infinitesimal number are even dying but it is not a “spike” among vaccinated people and nothing remotely approaching a majority. The bottom line is that there is some underlying truth in what everyone is saying but you’re twisting it and taking it to extremes to fit your narratives.
Actually, the main purpose of these masks, is to protect others from getting what you/the mask wearer has, not the other way around. The main purpose of these masks, it to keep your germs/viruses, near(er) you. That is why, when you sneeze or cough, you either cover your nose/mouth, or sneeze/cough away from others.I think if we dial back the hyperbole a little bit there are some basic things that everyone should agree on. One, masks do very little to prevent the transmission of the virus UNLESS you’re talking about N95 masks which very few people have. Two, the vaccines do not consistently prevent infection and transmission of the virus but they mitigate the symptoms and increase the odds that you won’t die or be hospitalized. Three, vaccinated people are certainly getting COVID, an even smaller amount are being hospitalized, and an infinitesimal number are even dying but it is not a “spike” among vaccinated people and nothing remotely approaching a majority. The bottom line is that there is some underlying truth in what everyone is saying but you’re twisting it and taking it to extremes to fit your narratives.