Official Vance /Walz debate thread
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Both guys were good. This was a solid debate that will make the 2% of the electorate who watched it feel good for a day. I'm impressed by how respectful both men were to each other. We need more of that.
Lots of back and forth, but Walz killed it on Jan 6. Vance wanted no part of that subject and it was painfully obvious in how desperately he tried to pivot...Also I thought Walz had the superior closing as well. In the end Trump voters will say Vance won, and Harris voters will say Walz won...
I don't feel like Vance did anything to convince undecideds...
I don't feel like Vance did anything to convince undecideds...
The only reason this debate matters is to answer "Can you see this guy as president if something happens?" Both answered yes no problem. Win-win
Vance had the best closing. He touched on every salient point that has made life harder and more expensive under Harris that trump inexplicably is incapable of clearly articulating
Vance wins. But Walz surprised me in a positive way. I wonder if his pen is out of ink? Vance didn’t need notes.
And Vance spent most of the debate trying to pretend that a VP has anything to do with proposing policy and any actual role in governing, other than being President of the Senate. I see the strategy of trying to make Biden/Harris the same person, but I wonder are there really that many people stupid enough to fall for that?
I mean at one point Vance said something about Harris's 2020 covid policy. Do people believe that when the mob chanted "Hang Mike Pence" they meant "Hang Donald Trump" as well?
That's how ridiculously uninformed you have to be to accept the notion that a VP and POTUS are interchangeable and do the same job. You could tell how much they desperately wished they were running against Joe Biden...
I mean at one point Vance said something about Harris's 2020 covid policy. Do people believe that when the mob chanted "Hang Mike Pence" they meant "Hang Donald Trump" as well?
That's how ridiculously uninformed you have to be to accept the notion that a VP and POTUS are interchangeable and do the same job. You could tell how much they desperately wished they were running against Joe Biden...
Vance was excellent at debate and I expected as much. It’s an academic exercise. Walz was wayyyy better than I thought and not nearly as tampon woke goofball.
Both guys won.
Shame the old unhinged crank and diversity appointment are at the top of the tickets
Trump has got to be just seething over Vance's performance tonight. He's probably broken every glass in his house, including the windows.
And even then, they don't matter, as evidenced by our current situation.
Dick Cheney mattered—a lot.
Kamala was given the opportunity to matter, she isn’t capable of mattering.
The moderators protected Walz. Except for his most recent lie about where he was during Tiananmen square, they were crickets about Walz’s BLM negative record and Kamala’s failures. Yet they asked several negative questions about Trump. Despite this, Vance was terrific. Had Walz received the Vance treatment he would have folded like a cheap suit. But walz is much more capable than Kamala.
You are right. Abortion is a thing because the issue only helps the Democrats. The president has nearly zero authority over it. And I remain unpersuaded that congress can either ban it or command that the states allow it.
Nah, just watch the recap on NBC or CBS morning show if you lean Democratic or Fox and Friends if you lean Republican… and you’ll get the self confirmation you seek.
That must upset you because constitutionally the VP doesn't have the power to order Chinese takeout. Cast tie votes in the Senate and replace the president, that's all the Constitution allows.
Constitutionally empowered or not, the VP is empowered by the POTUS whatever duties directly tasked with and agreed to.
Remarks by President Biden and Vice President Harris in a Meeting on Immigration | The White House
State Dining Room 2:14 P.M. EDTTHE PRESIDENT: Well folks, today I have two announcements to make. One, is we’ve got ourselves a Secretary. Xavier,
The VP may be mostly a ceremonial position, but she was green lit and agreed to the above responsibilities...and by any and all measures failed at it...unceremoniously.
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Hardly, they got fact checked big time and had to cut off Vance's mic.
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You even had Chris Cuomo and Brit Hume stating that Vance got it right the mods didn't know what they were talking about. Yikes.
