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NSIAP... glass retiring at end of year

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I know lots on here love to bash Glass, but I think he's done a good job on the whole. He has not presided over a return to basketball prominence, but virtually every sport at Indiana is in better shape than it was when he arrived, coaches across the board are a substantial upgrade since he arrived, he's leveraged B1G money to improve facilities across the board, the department is in good financial shape, and he appears to have avoided major scandal in the department.

I'm not familiar with any potential internal candidates, but I'd like to see IU hire an out of the box thinker and someone with proven success at the AD level. I hope the search firm/someone on the search committee looks into Danny White at UCF. He's a Notre Dame grad with some familiarity with the Indiana context, and he has been a really incredible success as AD at Buffalo and UCF. He's a basketball guy who knows the importance of football. Interestingly, his dad is AD at Duke, one brother is AD at FAU, his other brother is the head bball coach at Florida, and his sister is assistant AD at SMU - I bet Holidays are fun.
 
I know lots on here love to bash Glass, but I think he's done a good job on the whole. He has not presided over a return to basketball prominence, but virtually every sport at Indiana is in better shape than it was when he arrived, coaches across the board are a substantial upgrade since he arrived, he's leveraged B1G money to improve facilities across the board, the department is in good financial shape, and he appears to have avoided major scandal in the department.

I'm not familiar with any potential internal candidates, but I'd like to see IU hire an out of the box thinker and someone with proven success at the AD level. I hope the search firm/someone on the search committee looks into Danny White at UCF. He's a Notre Dame grad with some familiarity with the Indiana context, and he has been a really incredible success as AD at Buffalo and UCF. He's a basketball guy who knows the importance of football. Interestingly, his dad is AD at Duke, one brother is AD at FAU, his other brother is the head bball coach at Florida, and his sister is assistant AD at SMU - I bet Holidays are fun.

Purdue fan .. thought it was big news for you and didn’t see it posted here..

Major ramifications for bucket game going forward
 
Honest question: Why Pat Kraft?

Sure he's an IU grad, and that's great, but I honestly have no clue what he has done at Temple. That's not a knock, I'm just curious what others have seen in him outside of going to school at IU.
 
Solid tenure, in my opinion. I'd give him a B+. The Crean extension was a mistake and (I recognize I'm probably in the minority here) I wasn't a big CKW fan, but it's hard to argue with much else.
 
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Honest question: Why Pat Kraft?

Sure he's an IU grad, and that's great, but I honestly have no clue what he has done at Temple. That's not a knock, I'm just curious what others have seen in him outside of going to school at IU.

If we are going to do this the right way, we absolutely need a guy who is fully invested in football.
Football funds everything and this university has suffered long enough letting the football program sit on the backburner.

Nearly every school that thrives today in basketball plays big time college football. We are seeing more and more of this trend.

Oregon, Auburn, Baylor, Texas Tech, OSU, Michigan, all of these schools have had recent success. Football drives change with all of them.

You have a decent football program with bowls + Big Ten revenue and the basketball program virtually takes care of itself.
 
Fred is a good man personally, and think overall I would give him high marks.

Love the FB program spending and growth, capped off by this 8-4 season and Tom Allen's new contract. (Glad he got it done before retiring.)

BB coach - considered a rising star.

Womens BB - looks to be tracking very nicely.

Mens BB - Archie hasn't killed it yet, but I'd say this team is NCAA bound and he's proven to be a fairly good recruiter.

Women's VB - new stadium and a new coach, replacing someone I heard from parents with daughters in the sport at D1 level "needed a change" and guy they brought in seems like real deal.

New Golf course being built.

Mens soccer - perrenial top national program.

Facilities improvements across the board.

I think he has set the table very nicely for the next person to come in and really take it to the next level!
 
Honest question: Why Pat Kraft?

Sure he's an IU grad, and that's great, but I honestly have no clue what he has done at Temple. That's not a knock, I'm just curious what others have seen in him outside of going to school at IU.


I read the link below, read the Temple Athletics annual report, and googled a bit - there's nothing glaringly bad or good about him from a cursory search. If he were not an IU grad, I don't believe he would be considered a top candidate, and I don't think being an IU grad should make him one. That kind of provincialism drives me nuts and leads to small dreams.
 
Uh your new AD could do a lot better could do a lot worse.

Example.. would have been great if Burke moved on before he hired Darrell freaking Hazell

I guess you and I have different versions of "major ramifications"
 
Whether you get way better or way worse will greatly affect all of your games. No?
Purdue fan .. thought it was big news for you and didn’t see it posted here..

Major ramifications for bucket game going forward

Maybe I can help you out WRT Bucket game ramifications. This means that the idea of moving the game to LUCAS will get another look.
 
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Fred did a lot of good things for IU athletics, which are obvious if you’ve been on campus since he’s taken over the AD role. The biggest question mark he leaves going into retirement is whether his hire for the biggest sport is the long term answer. Only time will tell. Having said all that, I predict either Pat Kraft or Chris Reynolds will get the job.
 
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Fred did a lot of good things for IU athletics, which are obvious if you’ve been on campus since he’s taken over the AD role. The biggest question mark he leaves going into retirement is whether his hire for the biggest sport is the long term answer. Only time will tell. Having said all that, I predict either Pat Kraft or Chris Reynolds will get the job.

By biggest sport, you mean football?
It certainly out-earns the basketball program in revenue. Cannot survive in a P5 conference relying just on b-ball. That’s a poor strategy.
 
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Solid tenure, in my opinion. I'd give him a B+. The Crean extension was a mistake and (I recognize I'm probably in the minority here) I wasn't a big CKW fan, but it's hard to argue with much else.
There are individual items that I don't think Glass did well- selling the Penn State home game for instance and the fact that our football game day operations still suck- but I've never understood the knock on him for the Crean extension. It was a pretty normal market based contract. It's taken on a mythical status that seems to me to be more rooted in dislike of Crean than any mistake that Glass made and I doubt very many people that bring it up could even say what they details were and why it was such a mistake.
At any rate, our athletic department is in the best overall shape it's been since Ralph Floyd.
 
No matter what you think of Glass, he is one of the few people you have ever seen hired as AD of a major College Athletic Program without previous experience in College Athletic Administration. I can't think of anyone currently at a major college program who was hired with a different background. He and Morgan Burke may be the last of that breed.
 
"I know lots on here love to bash Glass, but I think he's done a good job on the whole." Does that make him our Preperation H? Whatever happened to Preperations A-G? VBG.
Sorry, couldnt resist a little Austin Powers humor.
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No matter what you think of Glass, he is one of the few people you have ever seen hired as AD of a major College Athletic Program without previous experience in College Athletic Administration. I can't think of anyone currently at a major college program who was hired with a different background. He and Morgan Burke may be the last of that breed.
I believe Notre Dame's AD (Swarbrick) had no AD experience as well. Hired from the same law firm Glass came from.
 
i'm available.

that said, from who's heading the search, makes me wonder if what IU is looking for is what most on here are looking for.

i personally would like to see the AD position be spun off from a position we would more associate with the IU Foundation, or the lobbying side.
 
I've never understood the knock on him for the Crean extension. It was a pretty normal market based contract. It's taken on a mythical status that seems to me to be more rooted in dislike of Crean than any mistake that Glass made and I doubt very many people that bring it up could even say what they details were and why it was such a mistake.
I'm often wrong, and I may be wrong here, but I generally don't offer an opinion without having some basis for it.

First, just to be clear, I think Glass has done a good job at IU and I don't dislike Crean. The timing of the Crean extension has always struck me as peculiar and ill-advised. Why cut a new deal if you don't have to? Didn't Crean still have several years remaining on his existing contract at the time of the extension that was inked in November 2012? And was there any danger of him leaving immediately prior to the start of a new season? Clearly, no. It almost seemed driven by emotion, as IU was basking in the glow of a #1 preseason ranking. The announcement, just before the season opener, certainly made for good theater, though.
 
I'm often wrong, and I may be wrong here, but I generally don't offer an opinion without having some basis for it.

First, just to be clear, I think Glass has done a good job at IU and I don't dislike Crean. The timing of the Crean extension has always struck me as peculiar and ill-advised. Why cut a new deal if you don't have to? Didn't Crean still have several years remaining on his existing contract at the time of the extension that was inked in November 2012? And was there any danger of him leaving immediately prior to the start of a new season? Clearly, no. It almost seemed driven by emotion, as IU was basking in the glow of a #1 preseason ranking. The announcement, just before the season opener, certainly made for good theater, though.

At the end of the day, it was only a 2 year extension with about a 25% pay bump, nothing to sneeze at, but I think the lingering perception has been that it was much larger than that.

And I don't think that the extension really affected the timing of Crean's ultimate dismissal either. Even in 2014 after back to back lackluster years, it would not have been a good look for IU (would have hurt IU's prospects with replacement coaches) to fire Crean so shortly after such a remarkable turnaround. Crean was probably on the hot seat a bit, but he followed it up with another really impressive season in 2014/15 and bought himself another year.
 
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I believe Notre Dame's AD (Swarbrick) had no AD experience as well. Hired from the same law firm Glass came from.
You are right. I forgot about him. My point is those guys are rare, and with the prevalence of Search Committees and Hiring of Search Firms to cover everybody's ass with respect to the Hire, I don't know that we will see someone hired from a private sector occupation with no Athletic Administration experience hired as an Athletic Director again.
 
Here's Temple's version of his thumbnail resume':

https://owlsports.com/staff-directory/dr-patrick-kraft/474

Seems like a perfect fit here to me...

I'm not seeing much there. If he wasn't an IU grad, I doubt he would be on anyone's radar. Again, he may be great, I'm just not seeing anything that really stands out to me.

The other side of this is I, like most on here, couldn't name 3-4 other ADs across the country so none of us have any clue what we are talking about when it comes to an SD search.
 
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