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Desantis will handle it with aplomb. Obama would have handled it with aplomb. It's where education and perhaps the right type of experience make a difference. Having rudy at a lawn care service, filing frivolous lawsuits, crying that he'd been cheated without any real evidence, giving shout outs to the proud boys, making absurd off the cuff remarks about covid, enlisting his family as his inner circle, on and on and on. Just all so stupid. Desantis is light years ahead of trump. What's more he's entering his prime
Neither did, nor will, face anything like Covid.
 
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Shit i've been on these things for years. you've got to start early. BEFORE you lose it. easier to maintain than regrow. obama was smart and measured. didn't always agree with his policy but he would have handled the pandemic in similar fashion: smart and measured. trump's unhinged. that's not presidential. as for biden, calls for speculation cray. we don't need to speculate with trump. we have evidence.

as for covid the most impt thing is to make sure you have a repub governor.
He would have gone on Jimmy Kimmel and pulled a joke. Then we'd have laughed while millions died.
 
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He would have gone on Jimmy Kimmel and pulled a joke. Then we'd have laughed while millions died.
Again we know what trump was like. garbage. like a child with his nonsense. it's no coincidence that his followers in congress are misfits
 
He would have gone on Jimmy Kimmel and pulled a joke. Then we'd have laughed while millions died.
and i'll tell you i was super pumped for trump. i wanted him to win when he beat hilary. that was a great day. but he left a massive skidmark and blood stain on the sheets when he left and i'd never invite him back
 
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LOL. And in truth we really do need to find someone capable of uniting the country. i thought biden would do that but he has been horrible in that regard. it's not okay to have trump in office if he evokes that much disdain. for me and you it's fun, but it's not okay. no different than having aoc or a squad member. we need the next president to be a person that wants to unite and that the majority of the citizenry feel okay about.
 
LOL. And in truth we really do need to find someone capable of uniting the country. i thought biden would do that but he has been horrible in that regard. it's not okay to have trump in office if he evokes that much disdain. for me and you it's fun, but it's not okay. no different than having aoc or a squad member. we need the next president to be a person that wants to unite and that the majority of the citizenry feel okay about.
No offense, but it was pretty obvious Biden was/is a fraud and is a media-made creature. No one who knew his background thought he would unite the country. Hell, he never left his basement - what made you think he would?

I'm not saying Trump would be my first choice, but he'd be A choice - a very valid choice, for me. And, depending on who runs on both sides, he may be my choice again.

The problem with Trump is, he can't hide who he is. JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton, Obama, Biden - all hid who they were and the media loved them for it. I like Trump for the fact that I know his faults, which are not much different than past Presidents. I don't like his personality, but I don't give a shit about his personality if he's a good President - and he was a very good President.

I realize we don't agree on Trump and that's OK. You're still weak. lol
 
No offense, but it was pretty obvious Biden was/is a fraud and is a media-made creature. No one who knew his background thought he would unite the country. Hell, he never left his basement - what made you think he would?

I'm not saying Trump would be my first choice, but he'd be A choice - a very valid choice, for me. And, depending on who runs on both sides, he may be my choice again.

The problem with Trump is, he can't hide who he is. JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton, Obama, Biden - all hid who they were and the media loved them for it. I like Trump for the fact that I know his faults, which are not much different than past Presidents. I don't like his personality, but I don't give a shit about his personality if he's a good President - and he was a very good President.

I realize we don't agree on Trump and that's OK. You're still weak. lol
We’re very lucky to have each other
 
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No offense, but it was pretty obvious Biden was/is a fraud and is a media-made creature. No one who knew his background thought he would unite the country. Hell, he never left his basement - what made you think he would?

I'm not saying Trump would be my first choice, but he'd be A choice - a very valid choice, for me. And, depending on who runs on both sides, he may be my choice again.

The problem with Trump is, he can't hide who he is. JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton, Obama, Biden - all hid who they were and the media loved them for it. I like Trump for the fact that I know his faults, which are not much different than past Presidents. I don't like his personality, but I don't give a shit about his personality if he's a good President - and he was a very good President.

I realize we don't agree on Trump and that's OK. You're still weak. lol
Delusional.
 
I suspect that by 2024 if trump is the candidate he will lose in an absolute landslide. He'll lose no matter what, but this go around it would be really ugly. a blowout. think about it. we're getting farther away from the summer of love nonsense. the wokeees are losing their voice. people are sick of that shit. i suspect inflation will be evened out by then. all of the things that give trump steam won't be salient - so all that's left will be his election nonsense, proud boy nonsense, age, insanity, why would anyone want that garbage. as long as the dems don't pick stay at home pete or a progressive, any moderate dem would wipe the floor with trump
It would be worse than Reagan beating Mondale. Maybe the worst drubbing of any candidate in history.
 
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You let the girls paint your toenails at the last sleep over, didn't you?

LOL. Unfortunately they are past that stage.

I was wondering, does you kid or any of her crew have first names that are spelled stoopid? That scream "my folks thought they were fvcking clever"?

The latest one I saw in today's paper was "Kenady".
 
I was wondering, does you kid or any of her crew have first names that are spelled stoopid? That scream "my folks thought they were fvcking clever"?

The latest one I saw in today's paper was "Kenady".
Lol that's definitely a thing. No we stuck with classic old school names. a cop buddy arrested a guy not long ago pronounced padge a miss. he sent me a pic of the guy's license. here was the spelling: pajamas
 
Yes, I’ve known Trump is stupid and corrupt, and a liar, for years before he claimed to be a Republican and duped so many into voting for him.
It's a good thing you didn't vote for a stupid corrupt liar for President in 2020, huh?
 
It's a good thing you didn't vote for a stupid corrupt liar for President in 2020, huh?
Yes, it was good not to vote for the most stupid, corrupt liar elected President in my lifetime. Biden may be stupid, and may prove to be corrupt, but he’s got a long way to go to reach Trump level.

Let’s hope next time we have much better choices from both parties.
 
I think your first sentence is the foundation of almost all of our discursive dysfunction. Very rarely do people even take a moment to absorb what's actually being reported and think about what it means. Instead, we see a story, and we interpret it in the most partisan fashion possible, and our misunderstanding of the story becomes the actual story in our minds. A story about Russia favoring Trump becomes Trump colluding with Putin. A story about Warnock pushing for funding for a project in Atlanta becomes a story about him funneling money to his employer.

And I don't think our stupidity or partisanship is ultimately to blame, either. I think the media know exactly what they are doing. I think they know we are poised to make these jumps, and I think they give us stories designed to get us to make these jumps, because that's where the clicks and the ad dollars are.

don't underestimate the part "stupidity and partisanship" plays.
 
l will say that I don’t doubt Aloha’s Conservative principles. He’s one of the few on here I’ve seen make a zero tolerance, pro-life advocacy. That should be celebrated.

That said, he’s one of many who has allowed Trump to completely distort their view of reality, a phenomenon commonly referred to as TDS.

There is zero excuse for a self proclaimed Republican to vote for Biden. None. It is near unforgivable.

That said, Conservatives as the more religious of the two parties understand the power and importance of forgiveness. But until Aloha is willing to admit his sins and repent he will remain outside the tribe. Only able to count grifters like the Lincoln Project, OS and Joe Scarborough among his allies. It’s a sad lonely place to be.
 
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l will say that I don’t doubt Aloha’s Conservative principles. He’s one of the few on here I’ve seen make a zero tolerance, pro-life advocacy. That should be celebrated.

That said, he’s one of many who has allowed Trump to completely distort their view of reality, a phenomenon commonly referred to as TDS.

There is zero excuse for a self proclaimed Republican to vote for Biden. None. It is near unforgivable.

That said, Conservatives as the more religious of the two parties understand the power and importance of forgiveness. But until Aloha is willing to admit his sins and repent he will remain outside the tribe. Only able to count grifters like the Lincoln Project, OS and Joe Scarborough among his allies. It’s a sad lonely place to be.
You're mistaken. I'm not a zero tolerance pro-lifer. While I sympathize more with the pro-life side and I'm disgusted by Congressional Democrats voting against late-term abortions every time it comes up, I'm OK with abortion in the first trimester and would be OK with a ban after date between 16-24 weeks, with very rare exceptions. Republicans could win with that position because it's where most Americans are and it's not extreme in either direction.

I don't have TDS. I have TRS - Trump Reality Syndrome. I determined very early on that the man was morally and mentally unfit to be President. He's never done anything to change my mind. There are far more solid Republicans out there that will never vote for Trump than you know.

I'm not asking or forgiveness for my vote. I'm quite comfortable with it given the alternative was Trump. I'll just wait until the Trumpsters understand the error of their ways. ;)
 
You're mistaken. I'm not a zero tolerance pro-lifer. While I sympathize more with the pro-life side and I'm disgusted by Congressional Democrats voting against late-term abortions every time it comes up, I'm OK with abortion in the first trimester and would be OK with a ban after date between 16-24 weeks, with very rare exceptions. Republicans could win with that position because it's where most Americans are and it's not extreme in either direction.

I don't have TDS. I have TRS - Trump Reality Syndrome. I determined very early on that the man was morally and mentally unfit to be President. He's never done anything to change my mind. There are far more solid Republicans out there that will never vote for Trump than you know.

I'm not asking or forgiveness for my vote. I'm quite comfortable with it given the alternative was Trump. I'll just wait until the Trumpsters understand the error of their ways. ;)
Your feelings on Trump have nothing to do with your vote for Biden. And you’re not helping your cause for re-entry with this squishy abortion stance.
 
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Your feelings on Trump have nothing to do with your vote for Biden. And you’re not helping your cause for re-entry with this squishy abortion stance.
There is nothing squishy about my abortion stance. It's a logical and sensible stance.

Trump has everything to do with my vote for Biden. Trump was unfit to be President so I couldn't vote for him to be President again. He ended up losing in a popular vote landslide because many, many people, including many Republicans, voted against him for the same reason.
 
There is nothing squishy about my abortion stance. It's a logical and sensible stance.

Trump has everything to do with my vote for Biden. Trump was unfit to be President so I couldn't vote for him to be President again. He ended up losing in a popular vote landslide because many, many people, including many Republicans, voted against him for the same reason.
There are only two logical positions on abortion. Abortion up until point of birth, or life begins at conception.

Anything in the middle is just wafflers trying to make themselves feel better.

Anyone that would cast a vote for this administration in good conscience is not a Republican. You are not one of us.
 
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There are only two logical positions on abortion. Abortion up until point of birth, or life begins at conception.

Anything in the middle is just wafflers trying to make themselves feel better.

Anyone that would cast a vote for this administration in good conscience is not a Republican. You are not one of us.
That's a very illogical take on abortion.

And you have no say as to whether I'm a Republican or not. I am and I don't care of you think I'm not.
 
That's a very illogical take on abortion.

And you have no say as to whether I'm a Republican or not. I am and I don't care of you think I'm not.
It’s either a life and every life has value or it’s not and it has no value. Everything else is just noise.
 
It’s either a life and every life has value or it’s not and it has no value. Everything else is just noise.
That’s OK if you believe that, but most Americans do not agree with you or the other extreme. Most agree with mine because it’s reasonable and logical.
 
There are only two logical positions on abortion. Abortion up until point of birth, or life begins at conception.

Anything in the middle is just wafflers trying to make themselves feel better.

Anyone that would cast a vote for this administration in good conscience is not a Republican. You are not one of us.
That's only true if you think the only relevant question is whether or not life begins at conception. If you don't think that's the only relevant question, then it's perfectly logical to arrive at other times. For example, if you think it's relevant whether or not a fetus is viable, you will naturally gravitate towards some time in the middle, like Aloha does.
 
That's only true if you think the only relevant question is whether or not life begins at conception. If you don't think that's the only relevant question, then it's perfectly logical to arrive at other times. For example, if you think it's relevant whether or not a fetus is viable, you will naturally gravitate towards some time in the middle, like Aloha does.
A newborn isn’t viable. Take a newborn and abandon it in the woods and see how long it survives outside the womb.
 
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A newborn isn’t viable. Take a newborn and abandon it in the woods and see how long it survives outside the womb.
Fine, then abortion up until birth is also faulty. Infanticide until the child is old enough to eat solid foods should be okay.

Point is, it's perfectly logical to come to different conclusions, depending entirely on which values inform your decision, and how you interpret them.
 
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There are only two logical positions on abortion. Abortion up until point of birth, or life begins at conception.

Anything in the middle is just wafflers trying to make themselves feel better.

Anyone that would cast a vote for this administration in good conscience is not a Republican. You are not one of us.
For the record, I didn't not "like" this on the abortion part. Even more proven as this chilli dog contradicts himself a few post down.

Can you say Chalupa
 
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That's only true if you think the only relevant question is whether or not life begins at conception. If you don't think that's the only relevant question, then it's perfectly logical to arrive at other times. For example, if you think it's relevant whether or not a fetus is viable, you will naturally gravitate towards some time in the middle, like Aloha does.
Another possible relevant point might be when the fetus can feel pain. Another might be consciousness. You might not pick just one but use all or an amalgam.
 
There are only two logical positions on abortion. Abortion up until point of birth, or life begins at conception.

Anything in the middle is just wafflers trying to make themselves feel better.

Anyone that would cast a vote for this administration in good conscience is not a Republican. You are not one of us.
Welcome to the rational middle, Aloha. We accept you because here, we don’t think in terms of tribes, don’t administer purity tests, and allow differing opinions and rational debate.

Here, we encourage you to vote for the candidate you feel will serve the country the best, not the one that serves any party the best.
 
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Welcome to the rational middle, Aloha. We accept you because here, we don’t think in terms of tribes, don’t administer purity tests, and allow differing opinions and rational debate.

Here, we encourage you to vote for the candidate you feel will serve the country the best, not the one that serves any party the best.
The “rational middle” has no principles.
 
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There is nothing squishy about my abortion stance. It's a logical and sensible stance.

Trump has everything to do with my vote for Biden. Trump was unfit to be President so I couldn't vote for him to be President again. He ended up losing in a popular vote landslide because many, many people, including many Republicans, voted against him for the same reason.
At least you don't claim he won the electoral vote. 🤣
 
That's a very illogical take on abortion.

And you have no say as to whether I'm a Republican or not. I am and I don't care of you think I'm not.
If you don't vote Republican, you're not Republican. Why not just say you're an independent, which you seem to be?
 
Yes, it was good not to vote for the most stupid, corrupt liar elected President in my lifetime. Biden may be stupid, and may prove to be corrupt, but he’s got a long way to go to reach Trump level.

Let’s hope next time we have much better choices from both parties.
In other words, I like my stupid, corrupt liar better than the other stupid, corrupt liar.

Why not just say that?
 
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