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That would be a good guess. Why are you Trump worshipers pro-Putin? What's the attraction?
Really?
Does your fat ego really expect that you are to be treated like some kind of oracle ?
Who is pro-Putin? You can believe Putin is a bad guy and also believe the deep state is just as bad.
This Deep State thing is among the many stupid things Trumpsters believe.
Yes, the argument the boogie man is as bad as Putin is interesting. I wonder what other mythological creatures are as bad as Putin?
Chupacabra is definitely bad. And Medusa. She's the worst. At least Putin doesn't have snakes for hair.
1. He's a strong man leader who is aggressively anti 'woke'. Therefore he's an ally in the culture war.
2. Maga is neck deep in Russian funding which means their entire social media ecosystem is bombarding them with a pro Russia/Putin slant....if you believe that like I do.
But mainly he's the ultimate culture warrior which is why China needs to be the big baddie to fight/hate now.
You didn’t read the article. You have no idea what it really says. You don’t think about anything. 95 percent of what you know comes straight from the tweets of Trumpster Twitter Twits and 95 percent of that is nonsense.
There is no question that the deep state exists and it is destroying what most of us see as representative government. This is not a Trump thing. The seeds of the Deep State were planted with the national mobilization and combined civilian effort to win WWII. When the war ended, much of it also ended, but some lingered, especially with military procurement. Ike was so concerned about that he warned about the dangers of this military industrial complex in his farewell address. If only. The Military Industrial complex not only flourished after Ike’s warning, it metastasized into all areas of government funding and procurement. It metastasized further into all areas of policy, rules, and penalties. Aided by SOTUS interpretations of delegation rules, the deep state is getting worse. The Deep state is a beltway blob of lobbyists, consultants, bureaucrats, staffers, and politicians that control everything government does, without meaningful accountability or responsiveness to the body politic. There are reasons why the wealthiest ares in the nation are in the vicinity of the Capitol. All that wealth produces nothing but more government. And that is lucrative.
While the Deep State might be invisible, it’s effects are clear and obvious.
We have a southern border that 75% of Americans think is a mess, yet the government bureaucrats march on with no changes.
We have a totally out of control spending addiction and out of control debt.
We have a tax code that is stuffed full of special interest benefits.
We just passed an atrocious budget act with thousands of earmarks for stupid shit.
We have a justice apparatus that picks and chooses which laws out of thousands to enforce and which to ignore, all in response to outside direction and influence.
And finally, we have a large and specialized industry of lawyers, lobbyists, and influence peddlers who make millions by selling access to the deep state. (Hello Hunter).
You might think the ordinary voter is who actually makes policies and control the government, you’d be wrong. The government is the deep state and access and influence is through a beltway portal.
A guy like Trump would be an effective antidote if he wasn’t such a dipshit.
They're terrified of him for a reason. And it's not because he's going to do something bad like destroy the economy or start a dumb war. Precisely the opposite actually. Why are they so terrified of Trump?
This is all very circular. It is always very convenient for proponents of "the Deep State" who always claim it is invisible. If we take Occam's razor to all of this and carve out all the unnecessary hypothesis, we might be just left with "it is politics". Who helps who get elected. By your definition, Trump with all his political influence prior to running for president, was actually part of the deep state--a huge part it.
I've been litigating for 27 years across 5 different states. I have yet to see a judge that simply ignores the law. BTW, the Supreme Court with ANY super majority --6-3 or worse, makes shitty law. A 5-4 split typically makes way better law (and I don't care who has the majority) because it is far less prone to political fever and dogma.
I also fixed your Hunter comment above
How so? Obama took office encumbered by the dire conditions of 2008. He was integral in pulling us out of it. What’s more his healthcare work winning coverage for those with pre-existing conditions is as significant to the lives of millions of people as anything an administration has ever accomplished. He also got bin Laden.
No one dislikes Biden and his admin more than I. But as I said I’m fine with prior Dems
There are inefficiencies and ineffectiveness in parts of the government, that's one thing. That exists. On the other hand, some parts of government are efficient and effective, but there's no fun in recognizing that. Trump and Trumpsters talk about the Deep State as if it's a coordinated and malignant group out to get Americans (conservative Americans and Trump, specifically) and that's false. Who's in charge of the Deep State? It just doesn't exist. The Trump/Trumpster rhetoric isn't at all helpful.
Like your post, but saying the Deep State is "invisible" isn't accurate. There are no neon flashing light s that say welcome to the deep state, but it/they are all over the damn place.
I know that's what you said. And now you're constantly crying about what you've supported for 20 years.
I dont know what Trump “political influence” you are talking about. But whatever it is, it’s not a deep state issue because it doesn’t have the weight and authority of government.This is all very circular. It is always very convenient for proponents of "the Deep State" who always claim it is invisible. If we take Occam's razor to all of this and carve out all the unnecessary hypothesis, we might be just left with "it is politics". Who helps who get elected. By your definition, Trump with all his political influence prior to running for president, was actually part of the deep state--a huge part it.
I've been litigating for 27 years across 5 different states. I have yet to see a judge that simply ignores the law. BTW, the Supreme Court with ANY super majority --6-3 or worse, makes shitty law. A 5-4 split typically makes way better law (and I don't care who has the majority) because it is far less prone to political fever and dogma.
I also fixed your Hunter comment above
Prosecutors routinely cherry pick laws. Judges often ignore law. The 3-judge CA panel who ruled there is no such thing as executive immunity not only misapplied a large body of law it ignored other law. This was for a political purpose. See also the 4-justice majority in the Colorado insurrection opinion.
Agreed. In some cases the deep state is very efficient. But that doesn’t mean it’s accountable, responsive to public interest or not subject only to special interests.
Strongly disagree The DC criminal case is very Trump specific and Smith bends statutes intended for other purposes to apply to Trumps J6 conduct. It’s a weak case that only is brought because Trump is a candidate for POTUS.
You brought up private individuals as part of the deep state. Lobbyists, Hunter Biden err.. Jared, Military Contractors, etc, big donors, etc.
The court of appeals in the district of columbia case got it 100% correct. The case law they cite was impeccable. I guess the Supreme Court by overruling Roe v Wade was part of the deep state then-- at least the republicans. They took away rights that existed for 50 years.....Think about that, with one wave of the hand they nullified a constitutional right that existed for 50 years.
As for prosecutors cherry picking laws--I feel this is all about your perception that Trump is being treated unfairly rather than anything of substance.
Are you kidding? The CA cited an few exceptions and then held no immunity—period.
Eric Holder bragged about this. He is one of many. Trump has nothing to do with it.
The investigations started before Trump ever announced for President and both cases are strong. No other President or ex-President would engage in this sort of criminal behavior. The document case is the strongest. I think he'll be a convicted felon at some point relatively soon.
Goodness, that is flat out wrong. It is a 57 page opinion that goes through the entire history of presidential immunity--all the way down to Madison. It was a tip to tale analysis of the law, and it was 100% correct.
You are referring to Holder's comments when he testified about how he has discretion to not prosecute. Big deal. Name a prosecutor who doesn't. But you also left out the part where he said "“We don’t prosecute every violation of federal law,” he said. “We don’t have the capacity to do that and so what we try to do is make determinations about how we use our limited resources.” He then cited the Obama admin's decision to no longer defend the Defense of Marriage Act. He then went into prosecution for drug use and said "we can't go after every user--we are looking for the supplier and originator."
I know how average and pedestrian you are.
I smiled when a poster talked about ..'20 years of accumulated national debt'...
Your remark' can't change overnight'.......LOL!!
Here are a few items in this dog shit bill...
$850k for a gay senior home.
$400k for a gay activist group to teach elementary school students about being 'trans'.
$500k for a DEI zoo.
$400 to a group which gives clothes to teens to help them hide their gender.
AND:
$15Million to pay for Egyptian college tuition.
And now the democrats are reassuring Johnson they will protect his speakership.
Most House republicans are scum.
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I don't like any of those things, but you know you're talking about budget dust there, right? In order to get some of what the Republicans wanted they had to let the Democrats get some of what they wanted. It's how the process works and whining and crying about it and refusing to compromise only ensures we get nothing, and we shut down the government. Shutting down the government is only a good thing in the irrational minds of the MAGA faction. It never saves a dime after they're over and Republicans get the blame. Probably rightfully when Republicans refuse to compromise.
It's a fact that we can't fix this overnight. I know you don't deal with facts, but you should make an effort.
It's a fact that we can't fix this overnight. I know you don't deal with facts, but you should make an effort.
You made your opinion of the American taxpayer very clear.
I pointed out only 5 of the more than 800 carve-outs for special interests, totaling over $17 million dollars.
'..budget dust' to you.
..republicans ....
Yes, $17 million is truly budget dust in a budget spending over $6 Trillion per year. And to be clear, I'd like to cut every bit of that listed. However, when you start talking about spending that really matters, I'll take you seriously. Well, I'll try to.
and the numbers are bizarre always. 790 million for cap police. 2200 of them. stl city has 1100 police with a budget of 190 mil. so if you double it that's 380 mil. why would the cap police need another 410 mil?
then 750 mil for security for judges? there's about 30,000 judges in the country. that's 25,000 per judge. why on earth would there be that much money. most already have a bailiff etc. they don't EACH need security. i don't understand how they come up with these numbers. it's like monopoly money
Once in there…those items are never removed. Continue in perpetuity.
Most Americans are in agreement about certain aspects of government spending. It’s this idiocy that should be condemned.
Who isn’t going to vote to fund the government if they remove the funding for a gay senior home (whatever the hell that is)?
Our government (Federal/State/Local) employs around 21 million people on a FTE (Full Time Equivalent) basis. I couldn't find info on total part time numbers, but they have to be pretty substantial as well. These #'s don't account for non/not for profit agencies whose funding is reliant on government grant monies. Another 200,000 companies have government contracts producing $1.1 trillion dollars in revenues annually. The real number of people with employment relying directly or indirectly on government money is likely closer to 2x plus that 21 million figure.
Our government also provides SNAP benefits for 41 million people, another 71 million receive some form of benefit from the Social Security Administration, 85 million receiving Medicaid/CHIP benefits, 21 million receive marketplace subsidies and 15 million people receive subsidized housing through HUD. Don't forget the 3 million people showing up at our southern border the past year or the tens to hundreds of billions handed out in foreign aid.
But hey let's argue about the greedy corporations, whether the deep state exists and the relatively minuscule budgetary pet projects of weirdos. Uncle Sam and his 50 subsidiaries have us all covered...
Our government also provides SNAP benefits for 41 million people, another 71 million receive some form of benefit from the Social Security Administration, 85 million receiving Medicaid/CHIP benefits, 21 million receive marketplace subsidies and 15 million people receive subsidized housing through HUD. Don't forget the 3 million people showing up at our southern border the past year or the tens to hundreds of billions handed out in foreign aid.
But hey let's argue about the greedy corporations, whether the deep state exists and the relatively minuscule budgetary pet projects of weirdos. Uncle Sam and his 50 subsidiaries have us all covered...
So you are admitting that you are a propagandist.
Finally you admit what I've known for a long time.
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