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Meeting of the Negative Nancy Club.

Did I tell you you could speak to me? No I did not. So why are you?

Go eat some pudding and take a nap, gimp.
Remember when you claimed Archie would win National COY, we’d be top 10, and we would not lose a game at home?

Remember that? Everyone else does.
 
Davis played the first two-thirds of the season on one foot or none at all. He physically couldn’t play more than 10 mpg. That’s a statistical fact. Had Davis not been rushed back from a devastating injury in less than 9 months due to Hunter and Thompson not being available, it’s very likely Davis is able to play 20-23 games at ~20mpg, instead of only being able to play the last 10 games at 20mpg. Win anyone of those games IU’s in the tournament and you’re forced to give Archie credit for making the tournament while navigating injuries instead of saying injuries didn’t make a difference.
No IU coach should ever get credit for making the tournament. Ever.
 
No IU coach should ever get credit for making the tournament. Ever.

They do in year 2 while trying to re-establish and build a culture with a team full of misfits and injured players from the previous regime who could never consistently make the tournament. Insinuating last years IU team was anywhere near the realm of any of the Knight-era teams is delusions of grandeur.
 
This is so dumb. Hunter hasn’t played a minute and you think he’s playing 20 min per game????

Thompson at 10? Did you see him play?

McBob?

Again...McBob?

MSU missed legitimate starters for big parts of the year. Get a clue.
On top of him including Romeo’ games missed - from the NIT!!!!
 
This is so dumb. Hunter hasn’t played a minute and you think he’s playing 20 min per game????

Thompson at 10? Did you see him play?

McBob?

Again...McBob?

MSU missed legitimate starters for big parts of the year. Get a clue.

You don’t think a top 50 freshman in Hunter is playing 20mpg when you have Justin Smith and Fitzner playing 25 and 12 respectively?

Thompson averaged 7 mpg as is and that’s with not being able to do any basketball related activity for almost 2 months while in concussion protocol. Had he been cleared to play all year he easily averaged 10mpg. He played more minutes in 9 games than Moore or Forrester who were healthy all year.

Would it kill you to do even a little research you insufferable jagoff?
 
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Regardless of the injuries, which I still dont agree with - the in-game management was miserable...
 
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Remember when you claimed Archie would win National COY, we’d be top 10, and we would not lose a game at home?

Remember that? Everyone else does.
None of them own their predictions. Tasmania Man was wrong but still won’t admit it, changing the subject at every opportunity. Ohio Boiler nailed him the other day and he tried to lie and deny his way out of it like a little kid. It’s funny, in a sad and pathetic way.
 
Ive asked, and linked the games played by each player, as to what significant injuries did IU face that you claim are so much different than any other program in the history of college basketball...

1 - Phinisee’s concussion...

Im done.
Translation: I can't provide an answer to the question.

Didn't think you could. Still open to hearing legitimate responses.
 
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Regardless of the injuries, which I still dont agree with - the in-game management was miserable...

You ever take a step back and think in-game management/adjustments become harder to execute when you have a bunch of guys out and you’re forced to play different lineups night in and night out? Especially when you’re in year 2 trying to implement a completely new scheme/philosophy with a bunch of new faces? Maybe, just maybe? Did Tony Bennet look like a master at in-game adjustments after 2 years at Virginia? Wright after 2 years at Nova? Did those guys just miraculously get better as coaches or did they get better after they were able to construct their own roster? Genuinely asking.
 
You ever take a step back and think in-game management/adjustments become harder to execute when you have a bunch of guys out and you’re forced to play different lineups night in and night out? Especially when you’re in year 2 trying to implement a completely new scheme/philosophy with a bunch of new faces? Maybe, just maybe? Did Tony Bennet look like a master at in-game adjustments after 2 years at Virginia? Wright after 2 years at Nova? Did those guys just miraculously get better as coaches or did they get better after they were able to construct their own roster? Genuinely asking.
Man - Im talking about something as simple as calling a timeout occasionally...
 
You ever take a step back and think in-game management/adjustments become harder to execute when you have a bunch of guys out and you’re forced to play different lineups night in and night out? Especially when you’re in year 2 trying to implement a completely new scheme/philosophy with a bunch of new faces? Maybe, just maybe? Did Tony Bennet look like a master at in-game adjustments after 2 years at Virginia? Wright after 2 years at Nova? Did those guys just miraculously get better as coaches or did they get better after they were able to construct their own roster? Genuinely asking.
I'm surprised Archie didnt just fold the program for the season....seriously, with the injuries, he would have been justified to cancel the season.
 
Its posted on this same thread - page 2 - Saturday evening around 8pm...there’s a long list of examples

I’ve read it as you’ve repeatedly stated it. I struggle to categorize those as “miserable/poor”. Inconsistent/needs improvement is probably more accurate. Again, not always easy to make the necessary in-game adjustments, let alone execute them when you’re a young team having to rely on a different lineup every night. Teams with experienced players and teams with a lot continuity can you usually right the ship without the coach holding their hand. There’s only a finite amount of TO’s in a given game, occasionally calling a timeout isn’t going to negate the challenges of a young team not having the luxury of playing with a consistent lineup.
 
Translation: I can't provide an answer to the question.

Didn't think you could. Still open to hearing legitimate responses.
Did you know that IU had 22 players out with injury at one point last season? They were the most injured team of any team that ever played in any sport at any time.
 
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can't believe we still have posters on here that still believe the injuries had nothing to with our lack of success...if we had the normal injuries that usually occur in a season, IU would have won possibly 25 plus games and possibly a SW16 birth. Hunter hurt the most i truely believe. Dakich said this kid was lightsout and putting it to Romeo in practice. then you add Davis being rushed back from injury. if we don't rush him back and we have him for 3/4 of the season playing 20 plus minutes, we don't have the 12/13 losses. McBob loss hurt more than people realize. if he has the same stats and hustle plays from his junior year, it would have made a difference somewhere. Greens injuries and suspenions also was a big blow. we don't lose 5/6 games without him playing easy...now onto Race's injury, if he is healthy, we don't lose probably 50% of our losses. so, that would be like 27-8 record, a 4-5 seed. now, possibly the biggest injury of all, Romeo's.. if this is true that his wrist was really bad, imagine what it could have been...with all the injuries i've mentioned that still leaves Al's injury and Juwan being fatigued with all the mins. he had to play out of position. so, all that it's Archies fault...crazy. if we had a normal season, alot of the predictions i believe would have came true. i do believe we would have been playing for the Big Ten championship and a huge run in the tourney. just think, we won almost 20 games and had all that drama...just a normal season....oh ya... i left out Rob's concussion...wow... what it could have been!!
 
Seriously, with the injuries, there were games where IU was playing with 7 scholarship players.
Oh my...7? That is unbelieveable!

Can you imagine if IU had four more scholarship players? They could have won a national championship like Villanova.
 
Oh my...7? That is unbelieveable!

Can you imagine if IU had four more scholarship players? They could have won a national championship like Villanova.

Oh wow, imagine if those 4 other scholarship players weren’t continuously hurt and had been able to play? Maybe you’re on to something.
 
Oh wow, imagine if those 4 other scholarship players weren’t continuously hurt and had been able to play? Maybe you’re on to something.
Yeah...because we only had 7 scholarship players all year. Archie should be fired for having recruited such fragile players.
 
can't believe we still have posters on here that still believe the injuries had nothing to with our lack of success...if we had the normal injuries that usually occur in a season, IU would have won possibly 25 plus games and possibly a SW16 birth. Hunter hurt the most i truely believe. Dakich said this kid was lightsout and putting it to Romeo in practice. then you add Davis being rushed back from injury. if we don't rush him back and we have him for 3/4 of the season playing 20 plus minutes, we don't have the 12/13 losses. McBob loss hurt more than people realize. if he has the same stats and hustle plays from his junior year, it would have made a difference somewhere. Greens injuries and suspenions also was a big blow. we don't lose 5/6 games without him playing easy...now onto Race's injury, if he is healthy, we don't lose probably 50% of our losses. so, that would be like 27-8 record, a 4-5 seed. now, possibly the biggest injury of all, Romeo's.. if this is true that his wrist was really bad, imagine what it could have been...with all the injuries i've mentioned that still leaves Al's injury and Juwan being fatigued with all the mins. he had to play out of position. so, all that it's Archies fault...crazy. if we had a normal season, alot of the predictions i believe would have came true. i do believe we would have been playing for the Big Ten championship and a huge run in the tourney. just think, we won almost 20 games and had all that drama...just a normal season....oh ya... i left out Rob's concussion...wow... what it could have been!!
I pointed out several games that IU lost, not because of injury...but because they were mentally soft and/or ill-prepared.
 
I pointed out several games that IU lost, not because of injury...but because they were mentally soft and/or ill-prepared.

And how many of those games did IU have a full squad? To act like IU wouldn’t have been in a better position to win in any of the games they lost with a healthy/available combination of Davis/Green/Hunter/Thompson is delusional at best.
 
And how many of those games did IU have a full squad? To act like IU wouldn’t have been in a better position to win in any of the games they lost with a healthy/available combination of Davis/Green/Hunter/Thompson is delusional at best.
So you have to have a full squad to win?

Looks like we wont win a game this year with only 11 players on scholarship...hope one doesnt get a hangnail.
 
They were 11-2 going into January and nationally ranked. And then IU was without a combination of Davis/Green/Phinisee for a 13 game stretch. You’re catching on. You’re coachable, I’ll give you that.
But how did they win without Hunter? They didnt have him during those first 13 games....man...they had to deal with his injury.
 
I pointed out several games that IU lost, not because of injury...but because they were mentally soft and/or ill-prepared.
that might be true about the loss, but with that being said, your not mentioning who was missing during these losses. no matter what, we did not have Hunter, Race, or whomever with injuries. all these games you say we lost because of coaching, were effected by the inuries in the end result. can't make me think different...
 
So you have to have a full squad to win?

Looks like we wont win a game this year with only 11 players on scholarship...hope one doesnt get a hangnail.
im not saying what you are saying...just a noraml season with injuries... last season was no where near normal, sorry to let you in on a little secret..
 
that might be true about the loss, but with that being said, your not mentioning who was missing during these losses. no matter what, we did not have Hunter, Race, or whomever with injuries. all these games you say we lost because of coaching, were effected by the inuries in the end result. can't make me think different...
All of those games were lost due to mental toughness and pre game prep. Not injury
 
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If you’re claiming injuries at fault for last season then you better damned well be bashing Archie for leaving 2 unused scholarships this coming...

With the grad transfers not hurting you longterm - leaving 2 openings is almost inexcusable....

So basically we are starting the year worse off than Hunter and Thompson last season - we already have 2 scholarships OUT FOR THE SEASON!!!!
 
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