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I’m not sure you are really interested but here is what they are wanting:
1) Return to rules of 114th Congress. “Open rules” on all major legislation, including appropriations. Allow votes on amendments on the floor
2) Leadership fund is not to oppose incumbents in primary or help in the solicitation of funds to challenge an incumbent
3) Conservative to be a part of leadership
And from what is being claimed, that was all agreed to. Don't think this has anything to do with process and rules at this point, they just don't trust McCarthy and it has become personal
While I think the Dems should 100% just sit back and let this play out, you can't tell me it wouldn't be hilarious for Hakeem Jeffries to poke around a bit at the 20 that just didn't vote for McCarthy. He only needs 7.
Just for the lulz.
Just for the lulz.
I heard two GOP congressman give interviews this afternoon, claiming in the conference meeting this morning McCarthy asked Perry what else he wanted....as they had already agreed to his requests....and he couldn't answer and just pointed back to his letter.
Maybe they are lying, but I doubt it.
If not McCarthy then who?
Remember, they can't even swear in new members or form committees until a Speaker is elected. And that effects everyone, not just Republicans.
You’re high. No way in hell are the MAGA Trumpsters the majority of the party. They’re a rapidly diminishing minority of the party. There’s not even close to a majority even in the House. The dozen or so throwing a temper tantrum are all you really got.
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Former Rep. David Jolly thinks McCarthy will bow out. The caucus will then have to decide who to back before they reconvene tomorrow.
I would probably point to the article in the New Yorker you linked. It essentially says McCarthy will say anything to further himself. I’m guessing what they are looking for is not “official” and if it’s not then they don’t trust McCarthy at his word.
Obviously, I don’t know just reading tea leaves
I totally agree.... and am not at all surprised by this result. Kind of thought it inevitable after the final election results came in.
I thought there would 8-10 in opposition....But 19 (now 20), is a death blow..... people on the far right don't trust McCarthy. They didn't in 2015, no reason to think they would this time.
I didn’t realize it but McCarthy supported opponents of a portion of the 20 who voted against him. I agree …he’s dead and I don’t blame the ones voting against him. Side note…Trump endorsed McCarthy for speaker
Jolly also thinks McCarthy will quit. As in resign his seat and leave the House.
The MAGA’s see him as the epitome of the swamp — someone who will say and do anything for the power he craves.
What would all this be without some irony, right?
I think we should all reflect on the fact that we’re now one day behind getting to the bottom of Hunter Biden’s laptop dick pics.
Have to admire the House Republicans for breaking tradition and having a battle with multiple votes to elect a House leader which hasn't happened since 1923.
On the other hand, given our divided country are the Pubs showing us how to compromise and get things done ?
On the other hand, given our divided country are the Pubs showing us how to compromise and get things done ?
Wait until she babbles when someone asks her what her position on water rights of the American Southwest is.
It'll surely be something like, "we need to protect our borders, or we won't even have a country"and "woke Democrats want to have drag queen shows in our elementary schools."
Of course, she'll smile toothily no matter what she says.
Teeth do not equal intelligence or skill.
But teeth may equal the depth of Republican thinking these days.
If compromise means crossing your arms and just saying no to literally everything, then yes. They have showed us much today.
McCarthy's willingness to give the crazies' what they want proves their point -- he will do or say anything to get what he wants, previous stands or pledges or promises be damned.
This is what you get when "principled" politicians have a chance to flex their muscles, putting compromise and pragmatism in the rear view mirror. And as a result, nothing will get done. That may not be such a bad thing until it's time to fund the government and raise the debt ceiling. That's when the shit will truly hit the fan.
We?
No, you Republicans must "learn to live with them." No one else must live with them.
If you Republicans get lucky, you might just get a Speaker as skilled as Ryan or Boehner, but so far today you can't even elect Trump-lover McCarthy.
Do Republicans even know what they stand for anymore?
Uh, no matter what you say, Republican expert Newt Gingrich thinks Biden's past accomplishments are "meaningful":
Newt Gingrich issues wake-up call to Republicans: 'Quit underestimating President Biden'
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., recently wrote that winning provides "clarity," and by the metrics that matter, President Biden is winning and Republicans are losing.
There really isn't any reason to think Biden won't have some more successes in the future.
Why do today's Republicans think they're so god-like brilliant when they can't even decide whether they're for or against McCarthy and McCarthy himself can't even reconcile his past statements supporting Trump and then blasting Trump and then supporting Trump?
He had the House and was able to get stuff through the Senate through reconciliation (and most recently with the help of some sane Republicans). That's not the case any longer.
Maybe as to a single, controversial issue once per year.
But that arrangement won't hold up as to the thousands of issues Congress considers each year. Many issues inspire both support and opposition at the same time.
Digging in one's heels as to anything these days serves only to prove someone is a hypocrite when an arguably similar issue on something else arises.
Now, now. Admit it -- Trump even with control of both houses could not "pass fixing bridges" while President.
I don't think Trump even proposed an infrastructure bill.
Trump was a better president than Biden. Biden would have had his way we’d be in deep deep shit. The less Biden gets done the better. Looking forward to Desantis and retiring Biden.
