Kanon Catchings

[IUNorth]

He looks slow. He’s the definition of tweener. Not physical/skilled enough to guard the 3 or 5. He looks like a classic 4 that can shoot. I’ve seen many say he’s a 5 but boy has he got a lot of work to do.

He didn't really shoot it from the perimeter all that much, and wasn't effective when he did. His best offensive contributions were on crafty, up and under, type post moves.

I have to admit, I didn't follow him as closely as some other Indiana kids in high school/AAU. But my perception was that he was more of a perimeter oriented big coming out of HS. Why he/they would flip that to him being predominately post oriented, when they have Edey and Furst, and they need better perimeter players...well its weird to me.

And obviously my perceptions of him coming out of HS could be way off.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

He didn't really shoot it from the perimeter all that much, and wasn't effective when he did. His best offensive contributions were on crafty, up and under, type post moves.

I have to admit, I didn't follow him as closely as some other Indiana kids in high school/AAU. But my perception was that he was more of a perimeter oriented big coming out of HS. Why he/they would flip that to him being predominately post oriented, when they have Edey and Furst, and they need better perimeter players...well its weird to me.

And obviously my perceptions of him coming out of HS could be way off.

I meant to say,”shoot some”. I’d say it’s because he’s not good enough to guard the perimeter. Jury is still out.

 

[bsmitty08]

So genetics, speed, size, athleticism have little to do with getting to the NBA?

Your argument however doesn’t make sense. A lot of guys are nba talent if they are 4 inches taller. How good would yogi Ferrell been? SMH dumb comment dude

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Kaufman is still developing. We will see where he ends up when all is said and done.

Furst and Kaufman have been busts so far. They will probably end up losing to a more atheltic mid-major.

 

[BoilerN]

He looks slow. He’s the definition of tweener. Not physical/skilled enough to guard the 3 or 5. He looks like a classic 4 that can shoot. I’ve seen many say he’s a 5 but boy has he got a lot of work to do.

I think he's a stretch 4 personally. Thought he was out of place last year. I think furst is closer to a 5. My 2 cents

 

[BoilerN]

Your argument however doesn’t make sense. A lot of guys are nba talent if they are 4 inches taller. How good would yogi Ferrell been? SMH dumb comment dude

You just agree with my whole premise. Saying Carsen is to short. Height was his knock. That has nothing to do with Painter not being able to develop NBA talent. Painter developed Carsen, but his intangibles kept him out.

 

[BoilerN]

Furst and Kaufman have been busts so far. They will probably end up losing to a more atheltic mid-major.

Kaufman has played 1 year. Furst 2. At a position where the NPOY demanded the most minutes and touches. But ok. If what you told me all offseason was correct and edey didn't play 20 minutes a game, they'd have had more time to show up.

 

[Coach Geez]

So genetics, speed, size, athleticism have little to do with getting to the NBA?

Edwards didn't stick in the NBA because he couldn't defend worth a crap and was too inefficient from the field to be a rotational piece. I don't think size was as big of a detriment as you make it out to be. He was the same size as Yogi Ferrell who played 5 seasons in the NBA.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

I think he's a stretch 4 personally. Thought he was out of place last year. I think furst is closer to a 5. My 2 cents

Might be(he’s a 4 that can shoot some imho)but the problem is you have 2 similar posts playing together.

*true stretch 4s can handle like a guard* trey can’t just yet. If ever.

 

[Coach Geez]

Might be(he’s a 4 that can shoot some imho)but the problem is you have 2 similar posts playing together.

*true stretch 4s can handle like a guard* trey can’t just yet.

They made him a "5" when Purdue redshirted him and put about 20 lbs on his frame. He doesn't move well enough to guard out to the perimeter.

Probably killed what any chance he had at playing at the next level.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

They made him a "5" when Purdue redshirted him and put about 20 lbs on his frame. He doesn't move well enough to guard out to the perimeter.

Probably killed what any chance he had at playing at the next level.

Painter redshirted an alleged top 50 kid to turn him into an antiquated, undersized big: brilliant! No wonder they are losing to #16 seeds. What a recruiting selling point!

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Kaufman has played 1 year. Furst 2. At a position where the NPOY demanded the most minutes and touches. But ok. If what you told me all offseason was correct and edey didn't play 20 minutes a game, they'd have had more time to show up.

The alleged "NPOY" can't beat mid-majors and may not get drafted: sounds like there are at least 60 better players than Frankenball. If Kaufman and Furst can't get run against a mid-major and dominate them, then that isn't saying much about them. A lot of hype, no results.

 

[hookyIU1990]

They made him a "5" when Purdue redshirted him and put about 20 lbs on his frame. He doesn't move well enough to guard out to the perimeter.

Probably killed what any chance he had at playing at the next level.

Doesn't sound like you've been following along in this thread. It's an issue with his genetics, speed, size, athleticism that will keep him out of the league, not pork chop's player development.

 

[BoilerN]

The alleged "NPOY" can't beat mid-majors and may not get drafted: sounds like there are at least 60 better players than Frankenball. If Kaufman and Furst can't get run against a mid-major and dominate them, then that isn't saying much about them. A lot of hype, no results.

Edey had 21 and 15. Guards not hitting 3's was the issue that game. Wide open

 

[BoilerN]

Doesn't sound like you've been following along in this thread. It's an issue with his genetics, speed, size, athleticism that will keep him out of the league, not pork chop's player development.

Not to many bad athletes in the NBA.

 

[Coach Geez]

Edey had 21 and 15. Guards not hitting 3's was the issue that game. Wide open

He also let FDU's 6'4 center that averaged 7 a game go off for 19 because he couldn't guard him out to the perimeter.

 

[bsmitty08]

You just agree with my whole premise. Saying Carsen is to short. Height was his knock. That has nothing to do with Painter not being able to develop NBA talent. Painter developed Carsen, but his intangibles kept him out.

Oh good lord

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Painter redshirted an alleged top 50 kid to turn him into an antiquated, undersized big: brilliant! No wonder they are losing to #16 seeds. What a recruiting selling point!

And promised he would develop into a more perimeter oriented player. Said it in his announcement video. That’s looking unlikely.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Edey had 21 and 15. Guards not hitting 3's was the issue that game. Wide open

You lost to a #16 seed! Getting your ass beat and outcoached by basically a D-2 program is the issue. Moore from FDU looked like a better player than Edey. FDU made it impossible for Edey to get the ball in the last 9-10 minutes, which is saying something. All that hype for Furst and Kaufman, and they were riding the pine at the end.

 

[BoilerN]

You lost to a #16 seed! Getting your ass beat and outcoached by basically a D-2 program is the issue. Moore from FDU looked like a better player than Edey. FDU made it impossible for Edey to get the ball in the last 9-10 minutes, which is saying something. All that hype for Furst and Kaufman, and they were riding the pine at the end.

Yup. They put 5 guys on edey and forced guards to hit shots. They didn't.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Yup. They put 5 guys on edey and forced guards to hit shots. They didn't.

No they didn’t. They brought pressure but not all 5. What hurt most was Purdue could only run 1 set. I saw more than once smith get bottled up and fletcher trying to set up with under 20. Once you stop Purdue on that slow set they couldn’t run anything else. No player could just go get one. Including Edey. That won’t change either.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Yup. They put 5 guys on edey and forced guards to hit shots. They didn't.

They forced anybody else to beat a #16 seed, figure out a way to get Edey the ball, and Painter to make adjustments: no dice. The most pathetic showing in the history of the NCAAT and sports. PU got outplayed and outcoached by a D-2 program.

 

[rocketo]

Kaufman is still developing. We will see where he ends up when all is said and done.

He won’t end up in a FF or NC game, we know that!

 

[hoosierdug]

So genetics, speed, size, athleticism have little to do with getting to the NBA?

Obviously genetics have played a significant role in what an unbelievable dumba$$ you are.

 

[clbndgm]

And promised he would develop into a more perimeter oriented player. Said it in his announcement video. That’s looking unlikely.

I distinctly remember Woodson saying if TJD came back he would develop his outside shot. Did that not happen or did I just miss all those outside shots he made the last couple seasons? Be careful when pointing fingers because as they say you have three pointing back at you.

 

[Coach Geez]

I distinctly remember Woodson saying if TJD came back he would develop his outside shot. Did that not happen or did I just miss all those outside shots he made the last couple seasons? Be careful when pointing fingers because as they say you have three pointing back at you.

TJD just potentially played his way into the first round with the way his game expanded as a point forward last year. This isn't the gotcha you think it is.

 

[Willray]

I distinctly remember Woodson saying if TJD came back he would develop his outside shot. Did that not happen or did I just miss all those outside shots he made the last couple seasons? Be careful when pointing fingers because as they say you have three pointing back at you.

Maybe he did help him with his outside shot, didn't he hit like 9 of his first 12 3-point shots in the NBA tryout? His biggest demand for IU was inside, not outside shooting 3-pointers.

 

[BoilerN]

Obviously genetics have played a significant role in what an unbelievable dumba$$ you are.

I've said that they matter this whole time. Jeesh

 

[BoilerN]

He won’t end up in a FF or NC game, we know that!

I mean, odds are he wouldn't if he went to Purdue, iu, or whoever else was in his final whatever number. Your point?

 

[kkott]

but his intangibles kept him out.

what is more tangible than height?

 

[Victorbmyboy]

I distinctly remember Woodson saying if TJD came back he would develop his outside shot. Did that not happen or did I just miss all those outside shots he made the last couple seasons? Be careful when pointing fingers because as they say you have three pointing back at you.

You are distinct. Lots of laughs and pointed fingers towards the north bub.

 

[hoosierdug]

I've said that they matter this whole time. Jeesh

That’s admirable. So your whole life, huh? Do you hand out cards to people you meet to explain to them or ?

 

[rocketo]

I mean, odds are he wouldn't if he went to Purdue, iu, or whoever else was in his final whatever number. Your point?

F…D…U…

 

[BoilerN]

what is more tangible than height?

Speed

 

[BoilerN]

That’s admirable. So your whole life, huh? Do you hand out cards to people you meet to explain to them or ?

No. It just says my name, my certification, my business's name, and my current jobs position. And some certification letters. Don't care what people think tbh. Doesn't affect me or my future. Banter is fun though

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

No. It just says my name, my certification, my business's name, and my current jobs position. And some certification letters. Don't care what people think tbh. Doesn't affect me or my future. Banter is fun though

I doubt you have a job. You spend way too much time on here.

 

[BoilerN]

I doubt you have a job. You spend way too much time on here.

Lol jokes on you then. I do well. Bright future. But you can assume all ya want. I love to prove doubters wrong

 

[The_Merry_Prankster]

Lol jokes on you then. I do well. Bright future. But you can assume all ya want. I love to prove doubters wrong

I'd be impressed if you could use too vs to correctly.

Not really.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

No. It just says my name, my certification, my business's name, and my current jobs position. And some certification letters. Don't care what people think tbh. Doesn't affect me or my future. Banter is fun though

It says.

“ Gilligan”.

First. Mate

 

[Courtsensetwo]

I'd be impressed if you could use too vs to correctly.

Not really.

Any relation to Prankster Mary?