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It isn't in schools

He doesnt but at least he didnt mention TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP in a post.
Shooter has something wrong with him. He is liar and is obsessed with Trump. I am not sure why the guy is so darn angry all of the time. And who lies about who they voted for it does not make any of us respect his bs anymore. We all know he did not vote for desantis does he teach his kids to lie as well?
 
He doesnt but at least he didnt mention TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP in a po

There are some liberal crazies on this board I think are insane but at least they are who they are. They do not lie like shooter. I really cannot have any respect for a man who lies and then tries to be taken seriously.
 
Amy Weingarten, the teachers Union President admits to promoting CRT. So go peddle your BS somewhere else.
I could not even imagine someone who thinks like shooter teaching my kid. Catholic school is the only way to go for us and a few times a teacher did try some of this liberal shooter approved stuff it was found out quickly the parents all stepped up and got it stopped very fast. If a teacher wants to peddle their liberal agenda they can go teach at a shooter approved public school not in a school we pay for privately. I also know of three families who all went home school only after seeing some of the nonsense the public school was teaching via zoom during covid. Covid really did expose a lot of these teachers for who they are. Sorry shooter many people do not support the nonsense you approve of.
 
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Mentioning " microaggression" is teaching CRT???. Hmmm...
It is part and parcel with antiracism (misnomer) and other progressive (another misnomer) scholarship (also a misnomer) that is being pushed into schools now. Kendi has said that his philosophy could not exist without CRT.

CRT, Queer Theory, antiracism, etc. are all being jammed into the schools, usually under the umbrella of SEL because who would argue with what SEL is presented as (don't you want kids to be nice to each other?)
 
It is part and parcel with antiracism (misnomer) and other progressive (another misnomer) scholarship (also a misnomer) that is being pushed into schools now. Kendi has said that his philosophy could not exist without CRT.

CRT, Queer Theory, antiracism, etc. are all being jammed into the schools, usually under the umbrella of SEL because who would argue with what SEL is presented as (don't you want kids to be nice to each other?
So let's say you think these slides are fraudulent--that the Portland School System is not going to teach these concepts to K-5.

Can we all agree that it would be wrong for a public school to:

(1) teach 9-10 year olds that hormone blockers are acceptable if they want to wait to "find out who they are?"

(2) require a lesson where 9-10 year olds "commit" to ANY kind of ideological activism (right or left)?

Does anyone here think (1) or (2) above are OK?
 
So let's say you think these slides are fraudulent--that the Portland School System is not going to teach these concepts to K-5.

Can we all agree that it would be wrong for a public school to:

(1) teach 9-10 year olds that hormone blockers are acceptable if they want to wait to "find out who they are?"

(2) require a lesson where 9-10 year olds "commit" to ANY kind of ideological activism (right or left)?

Does anyone here think (1) or (2) above are OK?
Yes - both 1 and 2 are completely unacceptable from a public school.

Are people claiming those slides are fraudulent?
 
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So let's say you think these slides are fraudulent--that the Portland School System is not going to teach these concepts to K-5.

Can we all agree that it would be wrong for a public school to:

(1) teach 9-10 year olds that hormone blockers are acceptable if they want to wait to "find out who they are?"

(2) require a lesson where 9-10 year olds "commit" to ANY kind of ideological activism (right or left)?

Does anyone here think (1) or (2) above are OK?
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So let's say you think these slides are fraudulent--that the Portland School System is not going to teach these concepts to K-5.

Can we all agree that it would be wrong for a public school to:

(1) teach 9-10 year olds that hormone blockers are acceptable if they want to wait to "find out who they are?"

(2) require a lesson where 9-10 year olds "commit" to ANY kind of ideological activism (right or left)?

Does anyone here think (1) or (2) above are OK?
Both are totally unacceptable.
 
I have a number of friends who teach in schools and they are frustrated by the crazy parents who come to them yelling "critical race theory" every time a history class discusses slavery. A high school classmate has been for a long time a middle school principal in southern Indiana. She is retiring early, fed up with the constant wild accusations and parents wanting to pick textbooks or wanting Johnny to "learn what Jesus says". The cult is up in arms and it's 99.9% imagined.
Of course, it’s not the bullshit that’s being taught in schools that’s the problem, it’s the parents who are concerned about it that are the real danger. 😂
 

It isn't in schools so much that every major textbook company decided to include it in math questions. 40% of the textbooks had to be tossed because they focused on something other than math (or moved the focus).
Here a woke teacher is upset because the “colonist” curriculum was working and Oakland students were making major reading gains.

 
Here a woke teacher is upset because the “colonist” curriculum was working and Oakland students were making major reading gains.

The more you read about that, the crazier it gets.

The rest of the story is that they want the old way back, but not because it’s simply the best way to teach kids to read.

It’s actually because more kids knowing how to read is the more social justice oriented thing to do.

“There have been choices made where our children were not in the center,” says Weaver. “We abandoned what worked because we didn’t like how it felt to us as adults, when actually, the social-justice thing to do is to teach them explicitly how to read.””

That’s pretty damn crazy. 😂
 
So a teacher can show straight but not gay?
Marvin, my first grade teacher was married to a farmer. I didn't know she was even married until she had him bring in a butter church so we could make butter in class. She never mentioned him again. She didn't talk about her sex life. She was there to teach us the basics. What I see on tic tok is these teachers have some need to tell their students about their sexuality. That is wrong.
 
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Marvin, my first grade teacher was married to a farmer. I didn't know she was even married until she had him bring in a butter church so we could make butter in class. She never mentioned him again. She didn't talk about her sex life. She was there to teach us the basics. What I see on tic tok is these teachers have some need to tell their students about their sexuality. That is wrong.
Let's take your personal experience and explore two scenarios

1) To teach students how butter is made, your female teacher brings in her male husband to show how butter is made. She doesn't introduce him as her husband, but when a student asks, she discloses their relationship.

2) To teach students how butter is made, your female teacher brings in her female life partner to show how butter is made. She doesn't introduce her as her life partner, but when a student asks, she discloses their relationship.

Are both OK?

Is the first OK and the second is "indoctrination"

Are both not OK?
 
Let's take your personal experience and explore two scenarios

1) To teach students how butter is made, your female teacher brings in her male husband to show how butter is made. She doesn't introduce him as her husband, but when a student asks, she discloses their relationship.

2) To teach students how butter is made, your female teacher brings in her female life partner to show how butter is made. She doesn't introduce her as her life partner, but when a student asks, she discloses their relationship.

Are both OK?

Is the first OK and the second is "indoctrination"

Are both not OK?
Bump...

Hoping for an answer from VPM. Or even from Crayturd, who finds the question hilarious, somehow.
 
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A teacher having to tell her students they can't read the books in her classroom. Ridiculous.
A teacher having to catalog the educational materials she has in her room....the horror.

Enough teachers across the country have broken the trust with parents and been vocal enough about how they are going to sneak around behind parents' backs and now the chickens have come home to roost. This type of stuff happens in all positions. Too many people get injured by not following a safety rule, then additional checks are put into place that take the time of people who were following the rule. You get an audit and are found not to be following controls, you get a finding and more controls. Sorry that is hitting all teachers, they should blame their colleagues who have been documented all over.
 
Here's a few articles that seem to embrace the topic:





Just based on those articles I'd say the problem is real...

My thought on the topic is this: The respective school boards should be forced to be completely transparent in every way as to what type of curriculum they are teaching and if their constituents disagree they can resolve the situation via the ballot box... I also firmly believe that Any "activist teacher" who can't bring themselves to simply stick with the approved curriculum and feels they Must evangelize about whichever political or social topic they're wedded to needs to find another line of work be they Left, Right, or Other...
 
A teacher having to catalog the educational materials she has in her room....the horror.

Enough teachers across the country have broken the trust with parents and been vocal enough about how they are going to sneak around behind parents' backs and now the chickens have come home to roost. This type of stuff happens in all positions. Too many people get injured by not following a safety rule, then additional checks are put into place that take the time of people who were following the rule. You get an audit and are found not to be following controls, you get a finding and more controls. Sorry that is hitting all teachers, they should blame their colleagues who have been documented all over.

Knowing a few public school teachers personally from our generation (under 40).... they are all off the rails politically. Like stupid insane lunatics. If you saw their social media feeds, nobody would allow their kids to be around these people.
 
Knowing a few public school teachers personally from our generation (under 40).... they are all off the rails politically. Like stupid insane lunatics. If you saw their social media feeds, nobody would allow their kids to be around these people.
Right and that is completely fine when they leave that at home. The problem is too many of the younger teachers in particular, want to bring that into the classroom. They can't be going full MAGA in the class either.
 
Right and that is completely fine when they leave that at home. The problem is too many of the younger teachers in particular, want to bring that into the classroom. They can't be going full MAGA in the class either.

Do we agree on what Swiss neutrality is? If there are story problems using Tom and Susan and there 1.7 kids, there also need to be story problems on Tom and Steve and their 1.7 kids? That also goes the other way, if they have Tom and Steve they also need Tom and Susan
 
Do we agree on what Swiss neutrality is? If there are story problems using Tom and Susan and there 1.7 kids, there also need to be story problems on Tom and Steve and their 1.7 kids? That also goes the other way, if they have Tom and Steve they also need Tom and Susan
I say leave the social nods out of the story problems and stick with inanimate objects (that might actually reflect real life mathematics)...
 
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Do we agree on what Swiss neutrality is? If there are story problems using Tom and Susan and there 1.7 kids, there also need to be story problems on Tom and Steve and their 1.7 kids? That also goes the other way, if they have Tom and Steve they also need Tom and Susan
If it is that important than just remove any questions about Mom and Dad and the kids unless you are only mentioning one parent.

"Tom asked his kids to get 3 pieces of candy each, he has 3 children. How many pieces of candy will the kids have together?" Inclusive. That is Swiss neutrality. You don't have to mention both parents. Frankly over the LGBTQ crap being shoved at little kids so that the adults can get affirmation of who they want to bang.
 
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Knowing a few public school teachers personally from our generation (under 40).... they are all off the rails politically. Like stupid insane lunatics. If you saw their social media feeds, nobody would allow their kids to be around these people.
A good friend of mine was naively off the rails politically (liberal) as a teacher. Total social justice warrior and preachy. She’s now quit teaching and is a second year law student. Watching her transform into a libertarian has been hilarious to watch.
 
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Even though I have yet to see any evidence of these issues in my kids’ district, I believe they do exist in some places. I believe the posters in this thread.

There is a real effect to the negativity toward teachers too that’s needs to be considered. Our district, a “good” one, started the year with almost 80 new teachers. They were still short teachers including several at the high school. That’s a tremendous amount of turnover.

I just think we need to be careful here and not pile on all teachers for the sins of a small minority. Driving good people from the profession makes our society much worse.
 
Even though I have yet to see any evidence of these issues in my kids’ district, I believe they do exist in some places. I believe the posters in this thread.

There is a real effect to the negativity toward teachers too that’s needs to be considered. Our district, a “good” one, started the year with almost 80 new teachers. They were still short teachers including several at the high school. That’s a tremendous amount of turnover.

I just think we need to be careful here and not pile on all teachers for the sins of a small minority. Driving good people from the profession makes our society much worse.
And that is fair. We have had a good working relationship with the majority of the teachers my children have had. This is really at the administrative level.

And to Marvin with the "hate" stuff, we gave an inch and the activists in the school took 10 miles. So I am not really open to giving much of anything at the moment because I don't trust that the activist types of teachers that Twenty and Ranger were talking about up above to handle the topic appropriately on any level.
 
A teacher having to catalog the educational materials she has in her room....the horror.

Enough teachers across the country have broken the trust with parents and been vocal enough about how they are going to sneak around behind parents' backs and now the chickens have come home to roost. This type of stuff happens in all positions. Too many people get injured by not following a safety rule, then additional checks are put into place that take the time of people who were following the rule. You get an audit and are found not to be following controls, you get a finding and more controls. Sorry that is hitting all teachers, they should blame their colleagues who have been documented all over.

For not wanting a lot of government involvement, the right is surely doing a odd job of injecting in everyday lives.

We are already in a huge teacher shortage. This type of thing isn't helping in the least. Having to categorize books, then send them to get approved, then send them to the to get approved again, then send them out to parents to get approved, THEN then the kids can start to read them.... come on now. When did common sense leave the equation. Looking at what kid of books those were, they looked like bearstein bears and the such...

I'm not saying there aren't bad teachers out there, but things like this are going to contribute to a already dwindling pool of potential people that were thinking about becoming teachers that won't want to put up with the hassle. I've seen people already going at DeSantis when he did his speech about getting veterans being teachers and how to become a teacher, the requirements are to rigid.

The GOP in those states are really going to hurt the teacher pool, IMO.
 
Only Christianity? Try all non-Buddhist religions. Including Woke religion.
I won't disagree at all, but since I believe he and I profess to be Christian, that is more in our purview. I know of no reason to think gays become teachers to have sex with kids any more than straight people do.
 
For not wanting a lot of government involvement, the right is surely doing a odd job of injecting in everyday lives.

We are already in a huge teacher shortage. This type of thing isn't helping in the least. Having to categorize books, then send them to get approved, then send them to the to get approved again, then send them out to parents to get approved, THEN then the kids can start to read them.... come on now. When did common sense leave the equation. Looking at what kid of books those were, they looked like bearstein bears and the such...

I'm not saying there aren't bad teachers out there, but things like this are going to contribute to a already dwindling pool of potential people that were thinking about becoming teachers that won't want to put up with the hassle. I've seen people already going at DeSantis when he did his speech about getting veterans being teachers and how to become a teacher, the requirements are to rigid.

The GOP in those states are really going to hurt the teacher pool, IMO.
Well, when parents find out books like this are in schools, the schools blow the trust. And the reaction from teachers and schools when parents ask just WTF is going on here has been, "none of your business, I am the teacher and I know what is best for your child...." then parents are going to clamp down on the schools.

As to government involvement, public schools are literally run by the government. There is no other way to address what happens within them other than involvement from the government.
 
A good friend of mine was naively off the rails politically (liberal) as a teacher. Total social justice warrior and preachy. She’s now quit teaching and is a second year law student. Watching her transform into a libertarian has been hilarious to watch.

Only Christianity? Try all non-Buddhist religions. Including Woke religion.
I was starting to worry about you, and whether someone had hacked your username when I read your first post above.
The second one calmed my fears. It's really you.
All is well.
 
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I won't disagree at all, but since I believe he and I profess to be Christian, that is more in our purview. I know of no reason to think gays become teachers to have sex with kids any more than straight people do.
That isn't what I said. I said the adults who are pushing this are looking for their own affirmation based on their sexual desires (who they want to bang). In other words, we need to talk about gay and queer topics for me, the adult, not you, the child. You don't care child but I the adult feel the need to discuss this because it gives the affirmation I am seeking for myself.

You know, teachers like this:

 
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Well, when parents find out books like this are in schools, the schools blow the trust. And the reaction from teachers and schools when parents ask just WTF is going on here has been, "none of your business, I am the teacher and I know what is best for your child...." then parents are going to clamp down on the schools.

As to government involvement, public schools are literally run by the government. There is no other way to address what happens within them other than involvement from the government.

If a book like that was in my kids school, there would be a meeting not just with the teacher, but principal as well. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I have a hard time believing that these things are happening as often as the right makes them out to be. Much like covid restrictions, should we all of a sudden have restrictions in areas where this isn't a problem just because the GOP says it's a problem or does everyone get the same treatment because the boogeyman is real to a select few.

Also, are you good with DeSantis saying that teaching requirements have been to rigid?
 
That isn't what I said. I said the adults who are pushing this are looking for their own affirmation based on their sexual desires (who they want to bang). In other words, we need to talk about gay and queer topics for me, the adult, not you, the child. You don't care child but I the adult feel the need to discuss this because it gives the affirmation I am seeking for myself.

You know, teachers like this:


I took that to mean they wanted affirmation of the kids they wanted to. I apologize for that mistake.

Let me ask, if we want Switzerland, do we want kids to assume all people marry the opposite sex? So if a kid realizes their teacher may have a male partner, a female partner, or no partner, is that something to be happy about? I didn't watch the video as I am sure there are people out there who say stupid things. But for someone who is gay, it might feel good that a child goes from thinking all people pair opposite to the reality that most might, but there are exceptions.

Noodle mentioned knowing teachers that have problems, and I have no doubt. Have we wondered why so few people want to go into teaching? We have had issues with teaching shortages since the 90s. There is much made about a lack of males teaching in primary schools, but that isn't new and existed long before woke. studies seem to indicate men don't consider primary education as being as prestigious and are more concerned with prestige in a job than women. So if how do we up the prestige level to attract more qualified people?
 
For not wanting a lot of government involvement, the right is surely doing a odd job of injecting in everyday lives.

We are already in a huge teacher shortage. This type of thing isn't helping in the least. Having to categorize books, then send them to get approved, then send them to the to get approved again, then send them out to parents to get approved, THEN then the kids can start to read them.... come on now. When did common sense leave the equation. Looking at what kid of books those were, they looked like bearstein bears and the such...

I'm not saying there aren't bad teachers out there, but things like this are going to contribute to a already dwindling pool of potential people that were thinking about becoming teachers that won't want to put up with the hassle. I've seen people already going at DeSantis when he did his speech about getting veterans being teachers and how to become a teacher, the requirements are to rigid.

The GOP in those states are really going to hurt the teacher pool, IMO.


A teacher having to tell her students they can't read the books in her classroom. Ridiculous.
Count me as highly sceptical that that 20-something teacher on Tik-Tok is accurately representing the law of Tennessee. She contradicts herself a couple of times in her own video. If she actually told her students not to read books in her classroom, though, you are right: she is ridiculous.

As for her outrage about working a Saturday, I have zero sympathy. My wife taught a few years and my mom taught close to 40. I have close friends who currently teach. None, thankfully, is so narcissistic that she would post such a video, attempting to portray themselves a martyr for working a Saturday once in a while.

I also have no sympathy for her outrage that she has to answer to her superiors--including the librarian and the school board--for her book decisions. Again, welcome to the workforce. You're a 20-something public school teacher in Tennessee, not the world's authority on reading, values, or education. You don't know everything and you don't get to make every decision about your job.
 
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