It isn't in schools

[zeke4ahs]

Glad she is doing better and I believe that if the child got the gun from his parents that the parents should face legal consequences.

See how easy that is? We even have an entire thread about this incident where my first inclination was to, checks notes, say that the parents should be charged. Your first inclination was to get mad that I shared a story which paints SOME teachers in Chicago in a bad light. There is a problem there. You open another door to those types of people: hetero, homo, or other to having the types of conversations that lead to this when you insert sex of any kind at too young an age and when you have teachers having non clinical discussions about sex at high school levels.

Finally, there are tons of teachers across the country who like their kids and would go out of their way for them as are there tons who are really just there to collect a check because they don't know where else to go. There are great people and there are ones who would do the types of things listed in the article. There also exists levels in between. If teachers are doing something that parents don't like or something that is just verifiably wrong (like in this article) it is OK to criticize. Everyone gets criticized at work at some point or another.

You don't have to be the good cop covering for the bad cops.

Tons who are just there because they are collecting a paycheck and have no where else to go? Lol. Teachers are highly sought after in the job market. You’ll see that more and more as teachers are leaving in record numbers to get well paying jobs where they don’t have unqualified people questioning their every move.

 

[zeke4ahs]

And you have chosen to be the one who runs here to post every time you see a negative teacher article. So I’ll run here to post multiple positives. Because for every one like that you select, I can find 100 positive. You for some reason, choose to focus on the negative and the outlier.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Teachers spending their own money to get classrooms ready feeling inflation squeeze

"We spend a lot of money. This stuff is not cheap by any means," said Michael Fabiano.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[zeke4ahs]

Teachers Work a Shocking Amount of Overtime Hours and It's All Unpaid

One of the common misconceptions most people have is that if school is not in session, teachers aren’t working. That couldn't further from the truth.

www.boredteachers.com

 

[DANC]

Sarcasm aside, that isn't really worth a response and you know it.

So many unserious responses to a horrid problem.

 

[DANC]

Teachers Work a Shocking Amount of Overtime Hours and It's All Unpaid

One of the common misconceptions most people have is that if school is not in session, teachers aren’t working. That couldn't further from the truth.

www.boredteachers.com

Both your links are true and I know - my mother was a teacher. That was when mostly women went into teaching because the pay was so low. Men went into education because they would be more likely to be put in administrative positions, where the pay was better. My uncle was the youngest principal in Indiana at the time, before he went to IU to get his Masters in Chemistry and then on to Medical School.

And that's the reason Education isn't a great career course for the best students anymore. You can't attract good teachers when pay is low, working hours are way more than 8 hours (I used to help my mom grade papers), and respect overall for teachers is down - it's vicious circle.

You can be pro-teacher and still understand there are serious issues in education today.

 

[anon_6hv78pr714xta]

Teachers Work a Shocking Amount of Overtime Hours and It's All Unpaid

One of the common misconceptions most people have is that if school is not in session, teachers aren’t working. That couldn't further from the truth.

www.boredteachers.com

That is an absurdly slanted piece.

In a well-functioning high school class, I'd give it a C. For a college class, I'd make the student rewrite it.

 

[DANC]

That is an absurdly slanted piece.

In a well-functioning high school class, I'd give it a C. For a college class, I'd make the student rewrite it.

Zeke would have given it an A+

 

[jet812]

Shouldn’t this stuff be exposed as much as possible?

Not if you’re agenda is that there really isn’t an issue or reason for concern…

 

[IUCrazy2]

Of course it’s a bad thing. I don’t understand why you feel the need to post everything negative you see about teaching. So when you do, I feel the need to post positives. Like how teachers put their lives on the line for children. Or how teachers spend so much of their own time and money on their children. Probably 98% of them. But you choose to focus on the 2%z

2% of teachers having inappropriate relationships with students is a pretty big deal. I believe that statistic is mostly a Chicago problem but 2% is a BIG number and is a big deal.

 

[UncleMark]

2% of teachers having inappropriate relationships with students is a pretty big deal. I believe that statistic is mostly a Chicago problem but 2% is a BIG number and is a big deal.

And your source says that only means that 98% haven't been caught.

 

[IUCrazy2]

And you have chosen to be the one who runs here to post every time you see a negative teacher article. So I’ll run here to post multiple positives. Because for every one like that you select, I can find 100 positive. You for some reason, choose to focus on the negative and the outlier.

"We seem to have a leak in the boat which could cause it to sink."

"Why you gotta be so negative and focus on that when all these other areas are just fine...."

 

[anon_6hv78pr714xta]

And your source says that only means that 98% haven't been caught.

Yeah, that’s a cheap shot

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

2% of teachers having inappropriate relationships with students is a pretty big deal. I believe that statistic is mostly a Chicago problem but 2% is a BIG number and is a big deal.

I don’t know, there’s an increasing number of female teachers having relations with boys in jr high and high school. I think I would have welcomed that abuse back in the day.

 

[IUCrazy2]

I don’t know, there’s an increasing number of female teachers having relations with boys in jr high and high school. I think I would have welcomed that abuse back in the day.

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I know you are being funny, but it is wholly inappropriate and is still an abuse of power no matter if the teacher is male or female.

 

[UncleMark]

I know you are being funny, but it is wholly inappropriate and is still an abuse of power no matter if the teacher is male or female.

If you think relationships between students and teachers are a new phenomenon, you're mistaken.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

If you think relationships between students and teachers are a new phenomenon, you're mistaken.

What was her name and subject?

 

[mcmurtry66]

If you think relationships between students and teachers are a new phenomenon, you're mistaken.

What was her name and subject?

Let's see. What subject could it have been for Mark. Hmmmm. Roman Numerals? Cursive? Dewey Decimal System?

I'm weak

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Let's see. What subject could it have been for Mark. Hmmmm. Roman Numerals? Cursive? Dewey Decimal System?

I'm weak

World History only took a couple of weeks.

 

[zeke4ahs]

One In Four Teachers Works 60-Plus Hours A Week

The working week has remained broadly stable for teachers over the past quarter century, suggesting that attempts to cut workload have so far failed.

www.forbes.com

This one better written?

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Of course it’s a bad thing. I don’t understand why you feel the need to post everything negative you see about teaching. So when you do, I feel the need to post positives. Like how teachers put their lives on the line for children. Or how teachers spend so much of their own time and money on their children. Probably 98% of them. But you choose to focus on the 2%z

You could acknowledge the negatives. That would be a good start, but you don’t. Same happens when it comes to negatives about Democrats. You can’t acknowledge those negatives either. You’re on the bipartisan hyper-partisan WC poster list and everyone on that list is essentially a “my party is good, your party is bad” poster.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

You could acknowledge the negatives. That would be a good start, but you don’t. Same happens when it comes to negatives about Democrats. You can’t acknowledge those negatives either. You’re on the bipartisan hyper-partisan WC poster list and everyone on that list is essentially a “my party is good, your party is bad” poster.

You are one of the few (if not the only) on your side of the aisle who is not on that list...unlike the poster who gave you a like.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

I know you are being funny, but it is wholly inappropriate and is still an abuse of power no matter if the teacher is male or female.

Let's be clear, there's a clear gender reversal in how I would think about it in regards to various kids. I would be up in arms if it were my daughter, but high fiving my son and giving him the "luckiest boy in America medal".

I can agree that it isn't appropriate and that it's an abuse of power while I sue the district. But you know damn well you'd be giving your son props in the background, like most dads. Every time it comes out that a female teacher is sleeping with their student, the comments section of new stories or tweets confirms.

 

[jet812]

You are one of the few (if not the only) on your side of the aisle who is not on that list...unlike the poster who gave you a like.

I have been critical of republicans in dozens of posts. Try harder.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

I have been critical of republicans in dozens of posts. Try harder.

Of course you have.

 

[anon_6hv78pr714xta]

One In Four Teachers Works 60-Plus Hours A Week

The working week has remained broadly stable for teachers over the past quarter century, suggesting that attempts to cut workload have so far failed.

www.forbes.com

This one better written?

It is better written than the first one you posted, for sure. But it reports the results of a single study. We don't know the criteria used.

More importantly: the study and article concern teachers in a completely different nation--England. So I'm not sure why you posted it.

 

[DANC]

Yeah, that’s a cheap shot

His specialty

 

[DANC]

Let's be clear, there's a clear gender reversal in how I would think about it in regards to various kids. I would be up in arms if it were my daughter, but high fiving my son and giving him the "luckiest boy in America medal".

I can agree that it isn't appropriate and that it's an abuse of power while I sue the district. But you know damn well you'd be giving your son props in the background, like most dads. Every time it comes out that a female teacher is sleeping with their student, the comments section of new stories or tweets confirms.

I don't think I'd be proud of such a thing - I have a daughter, no son. I think I'd have to have a stern talking-to and probably some type of punishment just on principle.

But there is definitely a double standard. And rightly so. Genders are not the same, despite what the woke crowd thinks.

 

[IUCrazy2]

If you think relationships between students and teachers are a new phenomenon, you're mistaken.

If you think Swiss cheese goes good on liver and onions, well you just might be crazy. (Since we are discussing things no one said)

 

[IUCrazy2]

I don't think I'd be proud of such a thing - I have a daughter, no son. I think I'd have to have a stern talking-to and probably some type of punishment just on principle.

But there is definitely a double standard. And rightly so. Genders are not the same, despite what the woke crowd thinks.

I have 4 boys. I am not high fiving my kid because a teacher sexually manipulated them. I would be pissed for a multitude of reasons.

 

[jet812]

Of course you have.

Let’s make a deal. I’ll provide my posts critical of pubs & you provide yours critical of Dems. Whoever has less leaves the board for good. Put your money where your mouth is.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Let’s make a deal. I’ll provide my posts critical of pubs & you provide yours critical of Dems. Whoever has less leaves the board for good. Put your money where your mouth is.

I never said I had more critical posts, or any, for that matter.
You said you had “dozens”, though.

 

[jet812]

I never said I had more critical posts, or any, for that matter.
You said you had “dozens”, though.

Ok, so you call me out for being one-sided & then admit you’re more one-sided than I am. If I can provide dozens, you leave the board for good, if I can’t I leave. Deal?

 

[jet812]

Ok, so you call me out for being one-sided & then admit you’re more one-sided than I am. If I can provide dozens, you leave the board for good, if I can’t I leave. Deal?

Keep looking…

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Keep looking…

How about we compare your numbers to Aloha’s? That was my point in the first place.

I always thought I lived in your head, but damn. Sounds like you may need a break from this place. It’s just a message board, sport.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

I have 4 boys. I am not high fiving my kid because a teacher sexually manipulated them. I would be pissed for a multitude of reasons.

For @UncleMark

 

[zeke4ahs]

You could acknowledge the negatives. That would be a good start, but you don’t. Same happens when it comes to negatives about Democrats. You can’t acknowledge those negatives either. You’re on the bipartisan hyper-partisan WC poster list and everyone on that list is essentially a “my party is good, your party is bad” poster.

What does that have to do with this? I acknowledged that having sex with students is bad. Kind of thought that was a given. Perhaps you missed that? Perhaps you paint with the same broad brush you accuse me of?

 

[zeke4ahs]

It is better written than the first one you posted, for sure. But it reports the results of a single study. We don't know the criteria used.

More importantly: the study and article concern teachers in a completely different nation--England. So I'm not sure why you posted it.

Oh good Lord. How many articles would you like me to find? Teachers are teachers. And the large majority of them work long hours . Fine. I’ll find another. How many studies would be sufficient? Or maybe you could just drive by your closest elementary school and see how many cars are there on the weekends or well after school is out?

 

[zeke4ahs]

It is better written than the first one you posted, for sure. But it reports the results of a single study. We don't know the criteria used.

More importantly: the study and article concern teachers in a completely different nation--England. So I'm not sure why you posted it.

https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/heres-how-many-hours-a-week-teachers-work/2022/04. Ok what’s wrong with this one? I’m certain you’ll find something.

 

[Crayfish57]

Oh good Lord. How many articles would you like me to find? Teachers are teachers. And the large majority of them work long hours . Fine. I’ll find another. How many studies would be sufficient? Or maybe you could just drive by your closest elementary school and see how many cars are there on the weekends or well after school is out?

You are coming across that they are the only people doing that. You get summers off. Most people that own their own small business or are self employed are to an extent working all the time. Taking care of the books , fixing things, etc. Not just the time the doors are open or you are on sites during the day.