You could have just said ”Uncle”…. 🤣🤣🤣. You’re in my head? Go review how I got in this exchange.
It isn't in schools
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Why America's public school enrollment is down
Why public school enrollment is way down in America.
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This trend will continue.
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True but it seemed like the right place. Here you go:
The trans is an elementary school board member
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That's because you have been waiting for your opening to chill in the women's locker room
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BingoThat's because you have been waiting for your opening to chill in the women's locker room
"Equity" in education is a race to the bottom.
I’m all for raising all boats, but lowering the standards to get there seems wrongheaded. It’s a real disservice to high achiever kids and also assumes those kids all come from the same place.
"Equity" in education is a race to the bottom.
Spot on.
Consider the mentality of alleged "educators" that willingly hinder kids who worked hard by withholding their awards in order to not upset kids who did not work as hard. How does this help the kids who did not earn an award? It doesn't get them into a better college. It doesn't put money in their pockets. It doesn't elevate their life in any way.
This is what socialism and communism look like. Take from those that have to ensure nobody has anything. Call it equity. It is equal misery.
Those in the education system are NOT the best among us. Several are low lives, pedophiles, and leftist activists preying on children.
I just wanted to respond to say that I do not share your antipathy toward educators.
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I came across this today in researching something else. For those who say CRT is not in education (K-12), you are wrong. This is a from a paper from 2009 from a CRT advocate, PhD student whose "research focuses on Critical Race Theory (CRT) as it relates to race, equity, and the improvement of education at the preK-12 level":
"Historically, CRT began to formulate a discourse that focused on issues of race and racism in the law in the same way that education scholars began to formulate a critique of race and racism in education (Crenshaw, 2002; Tate, 1997). During the early to mid-1980s, CRT critiqued the law, society, and race. However, CRT has now grown to be an expansive and credible movement that is both inner- and cross-disciplinary, particularly in regard to education.
Although CRT still attempts to demystify racial stereotypes, racial inequities, sexism, classism, and xenophobic practices, it currently has leant much more of its attention to addressing issues of curricula discrimination in a time of the No Child Left Behind Act (2001) and its fascination with “high-stakes testing.” It is worth citing McLaren at length when he declares:
'From the perspective of critical educational theorists, the curriculum represents much more than a program of study, a classroom text, or a course syllabus. Rather, it represents the introduction to a particular form of life; it serves in part to prepare students for dominant or subordinate positions in the existing society [his emphasis].' (McLaren, 2003, in The Critical Pedagogy Reader, p. 86)
The history of CRT in the U.S. is rich; however, if CRT is to continue to be fruitful in its second decade, it must continue to make radical strides to equalize the educational opportunities for students of color. CRT has many accomplishments it can boast of: affirmative action policies, provision of truth with issues of urban planning (that include gentrification/segregation), and equal and fair housing rights to name a few. It is clear that the origins of CRT are rich and the future is bright."
"Historically, CRT began to formulate a discourse that focused on issues of race and racism in the law in the same way that education scholars began to formulate a critique of race and racism in education (Crenshaw, 2002; Tate, 1997). During the early to mid-1980s, CRT critiqued the law, society, and race. However, CRT has now grown to be an expansive and credible movement that is both inner- and cross-disciplinary, particularly in regard to education.
Although CRT still attempts to demystify racial stereotypes, racial inequities, sexism, classism, and xenophobic practices, it currently has leant much more of its attention to addressing issues of curricula discrimination in a time of the No Child Left Behind Act (2001) and its fascination with “high-stakes testing.” It is worth citing McLaren at length when he declares:
'From the perspective of critical educational theorists, the curriculum represents much more than a program of study, a classroom text, or a course syllabus. Rather, it represents the introduction to a particular form of life; it serves in part to prepare students for dominant or subordinate positions in the existing society [his emphasis].' (McLaren, 2003, in The Critical Pedagogy Reader, p. 86)
The history of CRT in the U.S. is rich; however, if CRT is to continue to be fruitful in its second decade, it must continue to make radical strides to equalize the educational opportunities for students of color. CRT has many accomplishments it can boast of: affirmative action policies, provision of truth with issues of urban planning (that include gentrification/segregation), and equal and fair housing rights to name a few. It is clear that the origins of CRT are rich and the future is bright."
For those dumb enough to still contend CRT principles are only taught at the college level.
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Most DEI in organizations doesn't work. Maybe the same applies in schools?
"In the case of D.E.I., Dr. Dobbin and Dr. Kalev warn that diversity trainings that are mandatADory or that threaten dominant groups’ sense of belonging or make them feel blamed may elicit negative backlash or exacerbate biases.
Many popular contemporary D.E.I. approaches meet these criteria. They often seem geared more toward sparking a revolutionary reunderstanding of race relations than solving organizations’ specific problems. And they often blame white people — or their culture — for harming people of color. For example, the activist Tema Okun’s work cites concepts like objectivity and worship of the written word as characteristics of “white supremacy culture.” Robin DiAngelo’s “white fragility” trainings are designed to make white participants uncomfortable. And microaggression trainings are based on an area of academic literature that claims, without quality evidence, that common utterances like “America is a melting pot” harm the mental health of people of color. Many of these trainings run counter to the views of most Americans — of any color — on race and equality. And they’re generating exactly the sort of backlash that research predicts."
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"In the case of D.E.I., Dr. Dobbin and Dr. Kalev warn that diversity trainings that are mandatADory or that threaten dominant groups’ sense of belonging or make them feel blamed may elicit negative backlash or exacerbate biases.
Many popular contemporary D.E.I. approaches meet these criteria. They often seem geared more toward sparking a revolutionary reunderstanding of race relations than solving organizations’ specific problems. And they often blame white people — or their culture — for harming people of color. For example, the activist Tema Okun’s work cites concepts like objectivity and worship of the written word as characteristics of “white supremacy culture.” Robin DiAngelo’s “white fragility” trainings are designed to make white participants uncomfortable. And microaggression trainings are based on an area of academic literature that claims, without quality evidence, that common utterances like “America is a melting pot” harm the mental health of people of color. Many of these trainings run counter to the views of most Americans — of any color — on race and equality. And they’re generating exactly the sort of backlash that research predicts."
Mandatory "diversity" training doesn't seem to work
We've touched on this before, here's the latest debunking of the DEI industrial-complex: “We have been speaking to employers about this research for more than a decade,” wrote the sociologists Frank Dobbin and Alexandra Kalev in 2018, “with the message...
leiterreports.typepad.com
Opinion | What if Diversity Trainings Are Doing More Harm Than Good?
They might even make things worse.
Nobody has anything to say to that. "It is only one guy, it isn't everywhere..." Meanwhile Libs of Tik Tok lady is making a living off sharing these one offs that aren't the norm.
DEI=Antiracism=CRT.
We need mathematax because mathematics enforces white supremacy. There is some kookiness to start but she really gets going around 12 minutes. This is an education professor at Illinois, someone teaching our future teachers.
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Want to see evidence for how critical theory ends up in K-12 education? Go to the slide and discussion at the 13 minute mark. That’s how. It’s being embedded at a basic level there in a subject like elementary mathematics.
Basic take away: they are teaching people that normal ways of thinking about math is racist because it supports the notion that one can have neutral, objective rules to follow and thereby encourages subjugation.
Does anyone here agree with that previous paragraph?
We have a lot of messed up youth in the country. But good for the teacher.
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Again, violence is not the answer. The n-word is bad, but it is not some magical word that justifies anyone in resorting to violence.
Send the kid to the principal's office. Suspend him. He is messed up. But you don't get to assault him. Cheering on this behavior is not commendable.
Sometimes a good beating is the best thing that will ever happen to a punk like that. I doubt he has any discipline at home.
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Everything you say could be true and you can still think it is wrong for the teacher to be the one to beat the kid.
Not saying I always agreed with it, but when I was in school, corporal punishment was the order of the day. And there was no disrespect or behavioral problems in the classroom.
Apparently some she-male named "Mrs" S introduced his Tri-North math class to his best friend/roommate/mannequin that he keeps at home during remote learning on Wed here locally. Said he has had this "best friend" since college. He regularly makes it up and does its hair, and they sleep together. 😄
Not sure why that's applicable or necessary for math class, but hey....Bloomington. 😄
Not sure why that's applicable or necessary for math class, but hey....Bloomington. 😄
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/tampa/n...close-off-classroom-libraries-for-review/#app. This is sad and exactly what will happen when you have activists that know nothing about education. Children having no classroom libraries because their books have not been vetted yet. Supposedly vetting is a long process. Many teachers spend thousands of dollars on their class libraries. And now they are threatened with felonies.
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Do you have a compromise position? I agree that implementation seems to have gone awry.
I don’t have a problem with classroom libraries being vetted for children. Or school libraries.
I can’t tell you how many times I’d be working on a lesson the night before and think of books I wanted to use. I think the best way and least intrusive is to make a list of books not allowed. I’m sure some books will slip through the cracks that can be handled individually. I also think there can be books in the library that are only given out when asked for. I suppose the parents would need to know. But that makes me concerned for the kids who confide in their teachers and may have abusive parents or other issues. This would be more of a middle school/ high school problem.
How about just skipping the books on sex and gender altogether for elementary students?
You're welcome.
Lol. 99% of educators do. There is a day of “sex education” that parents sign off on where an age appropriate book is read. The fact that so many of you think many teachers are pushing this kind of stuff, is pretty depressing . And most of you haven’t stepped foot in a classroom for 40 years, but believe some crazy stories about furries, or believe because you can find a teacher among millions it’s a prevalent problem,
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I think you are right that maybe the way to go is to assume books are good until someone complains and compile a definite no-go list for the school now. But even that requires the teachers to document which books they have, and if you remember, that's what the Tennessee TikTok teacher was complaining about.
I'm not very concerned about books triggering abusive parents. I've seen no stats (or even anecdotes) to suggest that's a significant problem. If you know the parent is abusive, do something. Which books they check out is the least of their worries.
PS You know some kids actually have sex while they are still elementary age? You know some parents never talk to them about it? They’d better get information somewhere.
That’s not what I mean. I mean a high school student asks for a book about lgbtq for example. The teacher is forced to tell the parent that’s what the kid asked about. It’s not quite as simple as letting someone know about an abusive parent. We are required to report suspicions of abuse.
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I think this might happen more than you think. Personal experience I think I've shared here before:
My 10-year-old daughter (at the time) brought home To All the Boys I've Loved Before from her classroom's 6th grade library. She said her teacher recommended it to her. My wife happened to start looking at it, was disturbed, and looked it up on Commonsense Media. Here are summaries of some of the content:
"Sex, Romance & Nudity
Lara Jean discovers that her older sister had sex. She admits to thinking about what it would be like to have sex herself. She kisses a boy in the school hallway, and later has a pretty steamy make-out scene with him in a hot tub. Later, she hears a rumor that they had sex in the hot tub. Her father hears the same rumor and wants to make a doctor's appointment for her to get birth control. She also kisses her sister's boyfriend after they break up. Her best friend did a drunken strip tease at a party and hooked up with a lot of older boys; someone started a rumor that she had sex with a boy in a locker room.
Language
Some uses of strong language, including "bitch," "crap," "oh my God," "f--k," "hell," "ass," "slut" and "s--t."Drinking, Drugs & Smoking
Peter remembers a girl who got drunk freshman year at a party and did a striptease. He and Lara Jean go to a party where there's drinking. Lara Jean's friend tells her she brought shampoo bottles filled with tequila on a ski trip."When we talked to the 24-year-old, 2nd year teacher about it, she said it was her own library that she had stocked for the middle school (which also includes 5th graders) and that no one had reviewed it (and was offended that I asked). When I showed her the above review, she said she didn't "remember that from the movie." She had never read the book. She said she had selected it because of the Asian-American role model. When I said, well maybe if you feel strongly about this book's value, you could get a scholastic copy that didn't have the offending material, she was again offended and said she didn't believe in censorship. She kept the book in her classroom but agreed not to recommend any books for her in the future with a smug look as if she knew better about sexual and adult themes for a 10-year-old girl than her own parents did. Let me repeat: she was 24.
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