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Inflation . . .

Tax receipts went up after the the tax cuts. So, I’m not sure on the borrowed amount. Either way it’s a very small amount that would have been financed at very low rates. We’re talking a few billion compared to 6-7 trillion added from Covid. The budget increases in the military and other programs were much more inflationary than the tax cuts.

Tax cuts are deflationary if they’re accompanied with a balancing of budgets. As for 2018, a few benefits, we’re it made companies more competitive and helped average people like myself who had more money to spend.

At some point the inflation from Covid will end, not sure when. The continued inflation would come from the financing of the increasing debt.

Spoken like a true supply slider who wants lower taxes and less spending. Then there are the guys willing to raise taxes and spend.

The voters take turns putting both of them in power as low taxes and spending each have their constituents.

End result, deficits continue.

At present we have higher deficits enhanced by higher interest rates with all too many of us relying on the federal government's non discretionary spending. A problem which has been predicted for decades but not addressed by either party.
 
No he’s awful. Checking his “transformative” inflations are what has saved our asses. Life is way more expensive since Biden. The man is a moron. And I know very little about business but what I do know is that once consumers are conditioned to pay a certain price it ain’t droppin. Better make some bucks goin forward
The unemployment rate is the lowest in our country’s history. It reached the lowest in history for African Americans this year(4.7 in April). Those 2 facts alone would exclude Biden from the “awful” category. Then throw in the Chips and science act and the bipartisan infrastructure bill(something no one thought he’d get done) and he is safely in the average and possibly above average realm. Your arguments are legitimate for sure but I’d hardly call him awful. At least for the economy.

As for the increased prices on consumer goods. Yeah that never coming down. Corporations know we will pay the higher prices at the same if not greater clip.
 
The unemployment rate is the lowest in our country’s history. It reached the lowest in history for African Americans this year(4.7 in April). Those 2 facts alone would exclude Biden from the “awful” category. Then throw in the Chips and science act and the bipartisan infrastructure bill(something no one thought he’d get done) and he is safely in the average and possibly above average realm. Your arguments are legitimate for sure but I’d hardly call him awful. At least for the economy.

As for the increased prices on consumer goods. Yeah that never coming down. Corporations know we will pay the higher prices at the same if not greater clip.
trump touted the same thing re unemployment and blacks. fixing bridges is the easiest thing to get done of all, and even that his dumb ass has slowed things w/ his call for made in america w/o a clue as to where shit is actually made. 50 years of gov.... guy is a moron. now we are stuck with a far more expensive existence.

and yes consumer goods customers have been conditioned and prices will stay high. that i know about. what i don't know as a business owner who manufactures consumer goods is where to get these ever elusive customers. they seem exceedingly difficult to find
 
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you're such a pathological liar, you don't even grasp which part of your post was a lie.

and which you've lied about numerous times before, and been called out on before.

and which you have no intention of ever stopping lying about.

which is how liars like you are. it's just who you are.

you don't have an honest bone in your body, and i don't believe for a second you were ever a navel officer.

you're just another dishonest internet troll.
What?
 
you're such a pathological liar, you don't even grasp which part of your post was a lie.

and which you've lied about numerous times before, and been called out on before.

and which you have no intention of ever stopping lying about.

which is how liars like you are. it's just who you are.

you don't have an honest bone in your body, and i don't believe for a second you were ever a navel officer.

you're just another dishonest internet troll.
Also, while scrolling past your nonsensical reply I noticed the word "officer." You're 100 percent correct, I've never been a "navel officer."
 
The unemployment rate is the lowest in our country’s history. It reached the lowest in history for African Americans this year(4.7 in April). Those 2 facts alone would exclude Biden from the “awful” category. Then throw in the Chips and science act and the bipartisan infrastructure bill(something no one thought he’d get done) and he is safely in the average and possibly above average realm. Your arguments are legitimate for sure but I’d hardly call him awful. At least for the economy.

As for the increased prices on consumer goods. Yeah that never coming down. Corporations know we will pay the higher prices at the same if not greater clip.

How we discuss unemployment and the unemployment rate drives me crazy.

First of all, the rate is based on those looking for work. What about those who have given up looking ?

What about those willing to work but live in a depressed area or community. Then there are those experienced in a field which is no longer needed and are too old to learn a new trade.

Then there those who are disabled or simply unemployable.

In reaction to all those not working and may be getting help from government we hear about seeing "For Help Signs " which lazy Americans ignore.
 
I met a woman in a bar once who tried to convince me the moon landings were faked. She wouldn’t believe any logical explanation I provided. It was a fun experience, but also sad. She was a good looking woman, but not smart, and she thought she was smart.
Did you hook up?
 
Tax receipts went up after the the tax cuts. So, I’m not sure on the borrowed amount. Either way it’s a very small amount that would have been financed at very low rates. We’re talking a few billion compared to 6-7 trillion added from Covid. The budget increases in the military and other programs were much more inflationary than the tax cuts.

Tax cuts are deflationary if they’re accompanied with a balancing of budgets. As for 2018, a few benefits, we’re it made companies more competitive and helped average people like myself who had more money to spend.

At some point the inflation from Covid will end, not sure when. The continued inflation would come from the financing of the increasing debt.
Politifact grades a Patriot News Alert headline similar to your assertion - that the US reported a record tax haul after the Trump tax cuts spurred economic growth - as "Mostly False".


A commentator cited by Politifact says that the assertion that the US reported a record tax haul after the Trump tax cuts spurred economic growth is "highly misleading". And in fact, corporate tax receipts fell . . . precipitously. In the face of expanding deficits.

Are the budgets "balancing"? Do we have a deflationary economy? What's your point?

So any continued inflation would come because of "increasing debt"? Isn't the "increasing debt" a product of not paying for our bills when they come due out of tax receipts? And isn't part of the "increasing debt" a failure to impose and collect taxes?

I agree that tax receipts went up nominally after 2018 (probably for the reasons cited in the Politifact article linked) . . . how's that going now? I took a look at FRED, and tax receipts from the last two reported quarters - Q4 from 2022, and Q1 from 2023 are down.

How do you explain the extreme tax receipts increase in 2020 and 2021, and early 2022? Why did we have tepid increases in 2018 and 2019?

 
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The FED didn’t do a very good job controlling it in the 70s-80s.
In the 80s, yes they did. Paul Voelker - FED chief at the time - increased interest rates precipitously. In the 70s, Arthur Burns was the FED chief, and he was only interested in unemployment.
 
In the 80s, yes they did. Paul Voelker - FED chief at the time - increased interest rates precipitously. In the 70s, Arthur Burns was the FED chief, and he was only interested in unemployment.
We had high inflation for 10+ years. That’s not controlling inflation.

Edit: Allow me to use an analogy. The FED controls inflation like I control my wife’s spending habits. After she overspends for an extended period time, I stop her from overspending for a shorter period of time. Rinse and repeat.
 
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And we had five more moon landings too.
I love how the nutters think the moon landing was some 60s CGI special effects, when in the 60s we didn't yet have sufficient graphics power to play a game of PONG.

by 1972, THIS was cutting edge!

 
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Politifact grades a Patriot News Alert headline similar to your assertion - that the US reported a record tax haul after the Trump tax cuts spurred economic growth - as "Mostly False".


A commentator cited by Politifact says that the assertion that the US reported a record tax haul after the Trump tax cuts spurred economic growth is "highly misleading". And in fact, corporate tax receipts fell . . . precipitously. In the face of expanding deficits.

Are the budgets "balancing"? Do we have a deflationary economy? What's your point?

So any continued inflation would come because of "increasing debt"? Isn't the "increasing debt" a product of not paying for our bills when they come due out of tax receipts? And isn't part of the "increasing debt" a failure to impose and collect taxes?

I agree that tax receipts went up nominally after 2018 (probably for the reasons cited in the Politifact article linked) . . . how's that going now? I took a look at FRED, and tax receipts from the last two reported quarters - Q4 from 2022, and Q1 from 2023 are down.

How do you explain the extreme tax receipts increase in 2020 and 2021, and early 2022? Why did we have tepid increases in 2018 and 2019?

What does any of this have to do with tax cuts being a cause for inflation in 21-23?
 
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We had high inflation for 10+ years. That’s not controlling inflation.

Edit: Allow me to use an analogy. The FED controls inflation like I control my wife’s spending habits. After she overspends for an extended period time, I stop her from overspending for a shorter period of time. Rinse and repeat.
What do you consider "high" inflation?


Paul Voelker was the Fed Chair. We had a 10% mortgage in 1987.
 
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I responded to the content of your post.

If you can't figure out what the article has to do with inflation in 21-23, I can't help you.
We know what exacerbated inflation. It’s not complicated. Free cheese and no bills. Start with trump checks and went off the cliff with Biden. Consumers took that pandemic induced pent up demand and tapped into the financial largesse their gov bestowed and bought the hell out of goods. Now the bank is depleted and demand is dropping. Some will get redirected back to services. Things will get better but not with Biden who wants to be Santa Claus at every opportunity
 
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I responded to the content of your post.

If you can't figure out what the article has to do with inflation in 21-23, I can't help you.
The article was something about one of Trump’s claims. It wasn’t relevant. Tax receipts did increase in 2018, it’s not mostly false.

The content of my post was a few billion added in debt wasn’t the reason we had inflation. It was the 6-7 trillion added from Covid.
 
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idiocracy beyond belief.

have none of you economic total incompetents ever worked for a business?

goods and services providers will charge as much as the can before less demand, ie sales volume losses due to price, exceed the gains of higher margins.

if you're talking purely discretionary items that one might want, but doesn't actually need, that comes much quicker than on necessities like housing and food and transportation and healthcare/pharma.

and comes much quicker for goods and services that face strong market competition than those that don't.

decades of market consolidation, (monopolization), of the major industries, including the food industries, has gutted market competition, as has collective ownership/control by mega funds of industries we like to think of as "competitive", but who's ownership is controlled by the same entities, so aren't going to compete on price and quality, but rather collude on price and quality, because they can.

the Fed has some influence over job growth, which they manipulate with interest rates, but little to none over consumer goods and services pricing.

the anti trust division of DOJ and regulatory agencies are what have that ability, (not the Fed), and both have effectively been shut down by Wall St's takeover of govt.

outside covid subsidies which were a one off to offset the shut down of the economy due to covid, virtually zero of Fed money ever made it to Joe Worker/Consumer.

those covid subsidies only tried to make whole Joe Worker and offset his losses, so as a whole didn't add anything to the money supply circulating in the "real" economy, once you factor in the wage/sales losses as well, due to the economy shutting down and slowing. (even though some made out better while others made out far worse).

the only place Fed money printing has significantly increased the money supply circulating is in the financial markets, where it absolutely did inflate prices, but that money never left the containment of the financial markets, so only affected the price of assets within the markets themselves.

90% of the covid/post covid PRICE GOUGING has been due to lack of market competition due to decades of industry and ownership consolidation, (and the capture of regulatory agencies), and said industries using the false excuse of covid and supply chains as cover for price increases that were done simply to increase margin, because there were essentially no longer any effective market forces stopping them from doing so.

of course Wall Street's media PR arms are never going to tell you that, because they are Wall St's media PR arms. DUH! (which is now literally ALL media of scale).

nor is anyone on social media there to shill for Wall St, who will lie their asses off all day every day to bury that truth.

it's not personal. it's just business.
 
The gap today between 2 and 10 year treasury notes is the highest since '81. This yield curve inversion has predicted every recession since the 50s with a recession happening between 6 months to 2 years after the inversion. It's a function of the fed raising rates in an effort curb inflation. The market now thinks that they're overdoing it and the notes are trading accordingly.
 
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idiocracy beyond belief.

have none of you economic total incompetents ever worked for a business?

goods and services providers will charge as much as the can before less demand, ie sales volume losses due to price, exceed the gains of higher margins.

if you're talking purely discretionary items that one might want, but doesn't actually need, that comes much quicker than on necessities like housing and food and transportation and healthcare/pharma.

and comes much quicker for goods and services that face strong market competition than those that don't.

decades of market consolidation, (monopolization), of the major industries, including the food industries, has gutted market competition, as has collective ownership/control by mega funds of industries we like to think of as "competitive", but who's ownership is controlled by the same entities, so aren't going to compete on price and quality, but rather collude on price and quality, because they can.

the Fed has some influence over job growth, which they manipulate with interest rates, but little to none over consumer goods and services pricing.

the anti trust division of DOJ and regulatory agencies are what have that ability, (not the Fed), and both have effectively been shut down by Wall St's takeover of govt.

outside covid subsidies which were a one off to offset the shut down of the economy due to covid, virtually zero of Fed money ever made it to Joe Worker/Consumer.

those covid subsidies only tried to make whole Joe Worker and offset his losses, so as a whole didn't add anything to the money supply circulating in the "real" economy, once you factor in the wage/sales losses as well, due to the economy shutting down and slowing. (even though some made out better while others made out far worse).

the only place Fed money printing has significantly increased the money supply circulating is in the financial markets, where it absolutely did inflate prices, but that money never left the containment of the financial markets, so only affected the price of assets within the markets themselves.

90% of the covid/post covid PRICE GOUGING has been due to lack of market competition due to decades of industry and ownership consolidation, (and the capture of regulatory agencies), and said industries using the false excuse of covid and supply chains as cover for price increases that were done simply to increase margin, because there were essentially no longer any effective market forces stopping them from doing so.

of course Wall Street's media PR arms are never going to tell you that, because they are Wall St's media PR arms. DUH! (which is now literally ALL media of scale).

nor is anyone on social media there to shill for Wall St, who will lie their asses off all day every day to bury that truth.

it's not personal. it's just business.
Good God, man. How much time did you spend writing that? Almost no one will read it.
 
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The article was something about one of Trump’s claims. It wasn’t relevant. it’s not mostly false.
Wrong. Reading is fundamental.

The article wasn't about one of Trump's claims. And the article explains why the claim made - similar to yours - is mostly false.
 
The gap today between 2 and 10 year treasury notes is the highest since '81. This yield curve inversion has predicted every recession since the 50s with a recession happening between 6 months to 2 years after the inversion. It's a function of the fed raising rates in an effort curb inflation. The market now thinks that they're overdoing it and the notes are trading accordingly.
Sooo . . . what's your prediction? Stagflation or deflation? Disinflation? Plain old inflation?

Recession or soft landing?
 
We have severely under built houses since 2008. Look at housing starts pre 2008 compared to post. I don't know what the fed can do to offset the housing industry was scared to death for 15 years.
Oh, I don't know.... maybe quit making it harder for high-risk customers to get a loan at the expense of the low-risk ones?
 
Sooo . . . what's your prediction? Stagflation or deflation? Disinflation? Plain old inflation?

Recession or soft landing?
Recession for sure.

Unemployment is such a misnomer right now with so many people out of the workforce. It paints a rosy picture that belies what's really going on.

Something has to give on inflation, but I think it's been higher than reported since they changed the market basket. Not sure where it heads.
 
He just needs to sell it. Me, I've always felt it's all about employment. If people who want a job can get one, everything else is minor in comparison.
It's hard to sell when people are actually living in the real economy.

Joe: "Hey, look how good you've got it".

Consumer: "My credit card limits are maxed out and my real wage hasn't gone up in 26 months. Bankruptcies are soaring".

Joe: "Don't worry - inflation is only 4%!"

Consumer: "Fvck you"
 
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