Too bad he's not bright enough to get that.
Cheating on tests is a "fact of life" now so I guess he condones his kids doing it because that's what "adults" do.
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Too bad he's not bright enough to get that.
Cheating on tests is a "fact of life" now so I guess he condones his kids doing it because that's what "adults" do.
No, you're a loudmouthed, judgmental cretin who needs a poke in the teeth.
You belong in some church basement scolding sinners, not on a basketball forum.
You belong in some church basement scolding sinners, not on a basketball forum.
#1, I'd be far more likely to believe the average Purdue fan than someone like you.
#2, If you are such a moron that you only believe other IU fans, there are more than a few posters on the premium board who also believe that Izzo played fast and loose in the Brandon Dawson recruitment.
#2, If you are such a moron that you only believe other IU fans, there are more than a few posters on the premium board who also believe that Izzo played fast and loose in the Brandon Dawson recruitment.
Wipe away your tears, crybaby.
You were bragging "It's ok to cheat in college basketball and the real grown-ups get that and only holier-than-thou hayseeds don't."
Well, corruption around the world is normal. More than half the guys cheat on their wives. So according to your "logic", that means it's all fine if your kid is a shop-lifter.
So, how many mistresses do you have?
Huh? I don't ever remember saying anything good about Roth's defense, just that he was a really, really good shooter and had a great IU career. I just found it interesting that you are opposed to the signing of a really good sharpshooter, who is lacking on the defensive end...and looks to be a 4 yr player/senior someday, and yet not happy about CTC yanking the scholly of exactly the same type player, who you loved. Just a bit ironic is all.
Where is your proof that people with morals are in the "minority"?
You are the FIRST person I've seen say, "Screw the rules. Let's cheat like crazy to get Banner # 6."
I don't know of a single fan personally that wants us to cheat.
Heck, people were outraged when Sampson made too many calls and wanted him gone.
Crean's lucky he didn't get fired when he didn't punish the players hard enough for getting high because the fans were MAD.
Yet you think the "silent majority" wants us to pay players off?
LOL!!
Just how much moonshine did you drink this morning?
I will type slowly so that you can follow:
Basketball is an athletic contest, not a morality contest.
And there is nothing that I've typed that is even remotely as offensive and, dare I say it, immoral, as your accusing me of infidelity or shoplifting....over a basketball program.
LOL. Another hopeless hayseed.
Basketball is an athletic contest, not a morality contest.
And there is nothing that I've typed that is even remotely as offensive and, dare I say it, immoral, as your accusing me of infidelity or shoplifting....over a basketball program.
LOL. Another hopeless hayseed.
Fans like you guys are what is hurting college sports. All you guys care about is winning so if the coach is not performing to your satisfaction fans put pressure on the administration then they put heat on the coach. When a coach feels the heat and thinks he needs to win to save his job then they will bend or break the rules in order to save his job. If peop[le would realize that college sports are more than just winning and losing there would be less corruption in the sport.
Probably the same "fans" who think the only reason we ever lose a game is because the "refs screwed us."
Every time I've been on the game chat, 75% of the posts are nothing but, "The refs are sticking it to us because they hate us."
Yawn.
You're full of it. Sports is not about "winning no matter what" otherwise there would be zero rules.
And it's only "offensive" to you because it's true and hit a sore spot.
If all you care about is winning then you should just watch professional sports because to me college sports has to do with more than just winning games.
You must have trouble with reading because nobody said that you actually did those things but stating that if you think it is alright to do something just because others do it.
IU will likely pay more than $4 mil a year if it hires a coach with a substantial track record in the next couple of years. plus that coach would have a chance to make much more if he succeeded here. marshall would pick up the phone at least. sure, no school gets who they want all the time but IU still has a little more going for it as a basketball destination than Texas.
shocking. it's almost like this fan base wants IU to win basketball games.
There is not one person on this board that is a true IU fan that does not want to see us win big again. The difference is that some does not want to stoop to being corrupt just to win games because we feel that there is more to IU basketball than just winning championships.
Well, the comments about Pearl and Calipari were never intended to divide this board like Moses and the Red Sea. It was intended to point out that IU won't accept that type of coach. We aren't far enough removed from NCAA sanctions and most of us aren't willing to mortgage a death penalty for winning. History tells us that we are not a teflon program and if we are down, it's difficult to recruit top tier coaching candidates. Please, stop with all of the name calling and bickering and immoral assertions of others and discuss the realities facing the program. I hope we are better than this.
Would grant you that Marshall would pick up the phone, but at the end of the day, the Koch Brothers, with a net worth of $100 Billion, use million dollar bills as toilet paper., and would outbid Mark Cuban, Mellencamp or whoever in a bidding war for his services, just like he did this year against Texas and Alabama. They nearly doubled his salary this year to 3.3M, and he reportedly turned down between 4.2 and 4.9 mil at Alabama to stay in that situation where he has full control, private jet, etc. Our best hope is if Marshall finally decided it's NOT about the money and he somehow decides (like Calipari) he can't win a championship at a mid-major....but my guess is that he's staying put, just like Mark Few, for quite a while. Hope I'm wrong and he comes, but I think it's all wishful thinking.
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Amen.
Not only is he telling his kid to shop-lift because "everyone is doing it", he's also selling steroids to Little League kids because "the only thing that matters is winning."
We all want to win games... Not shocking at all... Rest assured there will be winning this season... But no need to hijack threads to keep your drum beat going... Sit back and enjoy the upcoming season...
Lol. And you are the kind of person who probably passes moral judgment on others while secretly diddling little boys in your basement.
Not that I'm *accusing* you of that or anything. Just an analogy.
Not that I'm *accusing* you of that or anything. Just an analogy.
Are you honestly this thick/stupid? Read the guy's last 3 or 4 posts. He is plainly saying exactly what you claim he is not saying.
So try this one on for size.....you two are probably the kind of moralistic, judgmental hypocrites who denounce every minor moral lapse in others while keeping a cache of child porn in your toolshed.
How does that sound? Reasonable? Like I'm maybe accusing you of something with absolutely no basis for it? Like maybe I'm extrapolating personal morality from a basketball discussion?
God this place gets dumber every week.
So try this one on for size.....you two are probably the kind of moralistic, judgmental hypocrites who denounce every minor moral lapse in others while keeping a cache of child porn in your toolshed.
How does that sound? Reasonable? Like I'm maybe accusing you of something with absolutely no basis for it? Like maybe I'm extrapolating personal morality from a basketball discussion?
God this place gets dumber every week.
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My campaign is I want IU to be a great program. I don't see that happening under crean. He doesn't manage a roster well enough and he isn't an in game tactician like a Marshall or Bo Ryan. To sustain success he either needs to control his roster better or he needs to start recruiting with the likes of duke, UK, Arizona.
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We all know your opinion... CTC is not going any where soon.. so relax and enjoy the season... no need to constantly denigrate.. which is what your campaign is... WE ALL WANT IU TO BE A GREAT PROGRAM! PARTICULARLY THOSE OF US WHO ATTENDED SCHOOL THERE DURING THE GREAT TIMES! Stop Fretting and watch what is happening...
This is a classic example of how an OP, that was initiated to discuss a new recruit, quickly "morphs" into yet another discussion of why CTC is not a suitable coach for IU. . .
Like the old saying "All roads lead to Rome!" on this board "All IU basketball posts lead to an attack on the current coach and often the AD as well . .
You mean interesting insights like simple math and probability?
You're not giving what JJ did nearly enough credit. You act like 11 year NBA careers grow on trees.
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Just to be clear...you would be ok with the UK model of focus and dependence on one and done athletes? Essentially outsourcing the program from it's campus/college roots?
You don't think Crean would take 4-5 "1 and dones" every season if he could?
He's certainly not shown much interest in building teams with experience, seniors, etc....so i gotta think he'd do it just like Cal if he could.
I don't like the UK model but I'm not loving the IU one either.
school is starting... Just got our first 2016 commitment... HH on the horizon... Practice will soon begin... Relax and enjoy the upcoming season
I agree 100% and this year I'm going to try to get to some of those December games in Bloomington . . .
Why the assumption that winners are cheaters?
How bout this: a coach is a really good coach who can win by using good coaching skills.
Maybe the poster wasn't clear, but when I read his message I hear him saying that the more pressure there is to win. the more likely it will be that some coaches will bend the rules to win. Of course most winning coaches do not cheat . . . but the culture of winning at all cost can increase the temptation for coaches to bend or even break the rules.
I'd do my best white-washing of the program too if I were an obsequious Crean lickspittle.
You sound like the mayor from Jaws.
"I'm pleased and happy to repeat the news that we have, in fact, caught and killed a large predator that supposedly injured some bathers. But, as you see, it's a beautiful day, the beaches are open and people are having a wonderful time. Amity, as you know, means "friendship"!"
It's amazing to me that someone saying relax and enjoy the upcoming season can be seen as being controversial.
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