Don't know and don't care right now. I just want to see Joe sworn in in January and then see what happens from there.
Goat's POLS Thread for Mature Adults
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It could partly be that Wisconsin had a very high turnout. However, Wisconsin also has same-day voter registration for in-person voters on Election Day. So the actual number of registered voters in Wiscy this year will be the 3,684,726 already registered PLUS however many people registered yesterday when they voted.
Define "far to the left", please.
Mandatory coverage for pre-existing conditions?
US negotiation of drug prices for government supported health care, like Medicare?
Single payer health insurance?
Voting rights legislation?
I'm just curious how you draw that line . . . .
Media is a business like McDonalds, and like McDonalds they only feed the public what they will consume. Maybe it's not the media at fault as much as the consumer who eats their swill.
I personally have no problem with media (or obesity) ... because I choose not to and only frequent media sites that serve real news.. not regurgitated orange goo covered in barbecue sauce.
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See above in caps. Talking about redistribution, taking over paying for healthcare outside of Medicare, forced affirmative action, arbitrarily closing industries for which there aren’t viable replacements, etc.
Haley would eat her lunch I think. Haley vs Newsome might give us that epic right v left battle.
Maybe this can be a reset for
The GOP also
Because they all have egos the size of Mount Rushmore. Surely you must have noticed.
Further update: the margin in the presidential race is now under 60k, with 100k in the Atlanta blue circle alone. The last batch results released from that area had 900+ Biden votes and 130+ Trump votes.
It ain't over in Georgia yet . . . I suspect a virtual tie will be the final result . . . .
I’m watching Fox News now and listening to the campaign guy for trump. He left me with a sinking feeling. This is going to be a legal mess
Why should the GOP feel the need for a reset, though? In all honesty, they are outperforming all expectations. They are still going to lose the WH, and obviously the House, and maybe the Senate, although that seems unlikely at the moment. But going into the election, they were expecting to get swept in all three, and they didn't expect it to be close.
I've been watching Fox tonight, too. I'm more interested in how much their personalities push back against the campaign spokespeople.
They already have all the wealth they think they need. It's the reason we have so many vanity campaigns by billionaires these days . . . .
Otherwise, the reason would be balls + purpose . . . which hasn't excited the voting public much recently.
In 2016, 79% of registered Wisconsin voters cast a vote for President. So maybe it really was just a very high turnout this year due to highly motivated voters on both sides. 89% isn't that much more than 79%. Especially considering more voters probably thought the state was in play this year than did four years ago.
I've been thinking that FOX is all about playing to its audience and getting them feeling like they're somebody . . . did you get the sense there's bite to go with that bark?
Problem is that politics have become so tribal, and it started way before Trump came in. Trump is just leveraging that into a blood sport.
Right versus Left instead of what's right and what's wrong.
That's why you can have Collins and Lindsey after all their hypocrisy still get elected back.
If the country wants to get back on track, after 20-30 years of this shit, they need to repudiate such behaviour, strongly-- winning at whatever cost without guard rails isn't the way -- and just go back to basics (like in footie after a streak of bad results.)
Its become about sides and not people.
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A 10% additional margin on top of an 80% turnout?
Not much more?
I beg to differ . . . .
I think MI has a law against armed individuals being near a polling place/election facility.
I said "militia types" because (imho) the people I saw on my screen reminded me of the people in the Michigan Militia who showed up at the Statehouse in Lansing and were involved in the plot to kidnap Whitmer.
Actually, I saw what I characterized as "militia types" harassing what I'd describe as "little old ladies" in the parking lot of a govt type building in Detroit. It reminded me of the yelling I saw when militia types invaded the Statehouse in Lansing and some of the Black lawmakers said they felt threatened. I never in any way suggested that these clowns were average GOP voters. IMO they were extremists trying to stop Black votes from being counted.
And Nancy. I’m looking forward to a lot of young, bright people in a Biden cabinet. Particularly interested to see where Pete ends up. Can’t imagine he will be left out.
only in part sope. and as a caveat i know absolutely nothing about this stuff. generally speaking, i don't think there's merit that trump won, obviously, but the campaign manager was citing specific, affirmative acts as opposed to generalizations. stuff that if there is actual evidence of a court would review and would take time to discover thereby delaying stuff
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You and I knew that in my case because I heard it discussed over the course of election coverage. But why didn't the author of the tweet Hillz linked bother to do a little basic research prior to posting his incendiary tweet?
Do you agree with goat that 900k same-day voter regs in WI could be motivted by Trump? In the age of Covid?
I hope they select you to flip the coin to declare the winner.
Can we agree that the 68M voting for Trump want to see the country moved far to the right? The GOP is not offering a right of center choice. They have went very far right and wanted to do it again.
Utah had 82% turnout in 16. https://www.google.com/amp/s/kutv.c...votes-away-from-surpassing-2016-voter-turnout. Utah did not love Trump, or Clinton.
Wisconsin cast 200,000 more votes for Trump, so if there is a problem, who caused it?
It may be that making voting easier, mail, works really well in engaged states and great weather on election day.
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What Trump positions or actions are "far right"?
Im not talking about his policies. He’s not a conservative in any manner. The far right refers to the alt right characteristics he’s shown.
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No and that’s not what I said. For many on each side it’s about voting against the other side’s troops (meaning party). I did not vote for Biden out of dislike of how progressive the wording has become in leading presidential candidates and the up and comers in the Democratic Party. I didn’t vote for Trump because I hate the guy.
I don’t know of any move to the far right being advocated in the GOP ranks. I don’t believe they’re going to go after social security or after abortion because no serious actors say they are. There are very serious actors in the D party advocating for hard shifts to the left. Free education, etc.
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Ah, alt right? That's a construct that really means nothing. But if it does mean anything, it doesn't describe conservatism.
She doesn't seem to prove that the 3.6M number for registered voters was the precise number at the beginning of the day yesterday. How often is the number updated? Could it have been from a week ago? A month ago? I doubt that updating a web site with today's registrations was a high priority in the chaos preceeding an election.
Careful about a key difference. We're talking about percentage of registered voters, here. The normal turnout numbers you see reported in most contexts are percentage of voting eligible population.
80% of the latter would be insane, but it's not necessarily crazy for the former.
Thats a good point. I concede that turnout was high most everywhere. My point of posting here is that you geniuses can poke holes in It. Still, it seems odd that something like 30% of that vote was registered on election day.
Snopes says the 3.6 number came from November 1. It does not say if that was opening or close, nor if people could register on Nov. 2. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/w...zHiOwJX6bbieWVAeq2GeBG31tUUFyVZ3oHssAr8rm6B-c
People could not register on Nov 2. Registration closed on Oct 30, and then opened again on election day.
I really think people are just reading more into this than they should because they don't realize that really high ratios of voter/registered voter are actually very realistic.
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