The T.rump Party campaign slogan in Detroit seems to be somewhat anti-American:
"STOP THE COUNT!"
Conservatives here okay with this?
"STOP THE COUNT!"
Conservatives here okay with this?
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McConnell at 78 just won another 6 year term. Feinstein is 87. So many are way too old and need to step aside.
GOP thugs protesting vote count in Detroit. Storming the room and chanting “STOP THE VOTE!”
Hmmm. Anyone give any credence to this?
The two Democrats told The Hill on Wednesday that they were reaching out to their colleagues about backing one of Pelosi’s top lieutenants, House Democratic Caucus Chairman Hakeem Jeffries (N.Y.), for Speaker in the next Congress.
“He’s the only one prepared and positioned” to be Speaker, said one of the Democratic lawmakers. “He bridges moderates and progressives better than anyone. And most importantly, he’s not Nancy Pelosi.”
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He worked for 2 years in law while being a councilman. Fine - he had a real job 40 years ago. If you are of the mind that working 2.5 years means one learned what they needed to know to launch into politics then we’ll have to disagree.
Well, you certainly repudiated what I wrote... My apologies...
Joe Biden was a young lawyer in Delaware who got involved in politics by running for a local council position...
"In 1968, Biden received a law degree from Syracuse University College of Law, ranked 76th in his class of 85,[16][17] and was admitted to the Delaware bar in 1969.[23] While in school, he received student draft deferments,[24] and afterward was classified as unavailable for military service due to asthma.[24][25]
In 1968, Biden clerked at a Wilmington law firm headed by prominent local Republican William Prickett and, he later said, "thought of myself as a Republican".[26][27] He disliked incumbent Democratic Delaware governor Charles L. Terry's conservative racial politics and supported a more liberal Republican, Russell W. Peterson, who defeated Terry in 1968.[26] Biden was recruited by local Republicans but registered as an Independent because of his distaste for Republican presidential candidate Richard Nixon.[26]
In 1969, Biden practiced law first as a public defender and then at a firm headed by a locally active Democrat[28][26] who named him to the Democratic Forum, a group trying to reform and revitalize the state party;[2]:86 Biden subsequently reregistered as a Democrat.[26] He and another attorney also formed a law firm.[28] Corporate law, however, did not appeal to him, and criminal law did not pay well.[8] He supplemented his income by managing properties.[29]
Later that year Biden was elected to a county council seat in a usually Republican district of New Castle County, Delaware, running on a liberal platform that included support for public housing in the suburbs.[28][30][28][2]:59 He served on the council, while still practicing law, until 1972.[23][31] He opposed large highway projects that might disrupt Wilmington neighborhoods.[2]:62
1972 U.S. Senate campaign
In 1972, Biden defeated Republican incumbent J. Caleb Boggs to become the junior U.S. senator from Delaware. He was the only Democrat willing to challenge Boggs;[28] his campaign had almost no money, and he was given no chance of winning.[8] Family members managed and staffed the campaign, which relied on meeting voters face-to-face and hand-distributing position papers,[32] an approach made feasible by Delaware's small size.[29] He received some help from the AFL–CIO and Democratic pollster Patrick Caddell.[28] His platform focused on withdrawal from Vietnam, the environment, civil rights, mass transit, more equitable taxation, health care, and public dissatisfaction with "politics as usual".[28][32] A few months before the election Biden trailed Boggs by almost thirty percentage points,[28] but his energy, attractive young family, and ability to connect with voters' emotions worked to his advantage,[10] and he won with 50.5 percent of the vote.[32]
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Lol. I’m glad you left the part of finishing in the bottom 10% of his law class in.
Look, he’s an infinitely better human than Trump is. But the joy and glee that liberals throw around for this guy is mind-numbingly stupid. He’s a speech stealing swamp creature that has leeched off of all of us for almost 50 years and now can barely read a speech off a teleprompter. I’m ecstatic.
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Amen to that.
Again I point to, how do you lure a whip-smart early 30s-something away from medicine or banking or private industry and away from that money to be politicians at the state or national level? Our founding fathers’ part time jobs was politics - that will never happen again - but maybe it should.
You know.... The thing!
Disagree, at least for elected officials and probably SCOTUS. Evaluate their mental capacity occasionally (but isn't that what elections are for), but it's folly to assume someone no longer has something to offer the country at 80. In fact, there's a pretty good chance that all Joe has seen and been through has prepared him for this moment in our country's history better than anyone else.
Maybe extend the 25th amendment to other offices besides president, and/or maybe set up some sort of senior SCOTUS justice track, for filling in when a sitting justice has a conflict or medical issue . . . .
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Loads of it. It’s a sad day that I knew was coming but I’m still irritated that these were our choices.
My only hope is that somebody with lots of capital might take note at the deep division as represented by the closeness of the popular vote and realize there is room for a third party.
It was a live cut- they had a reporter on the scene and I saw the feed when they cut to it in the middle of their election coverage...
Georgia update:
Local news is reporting that Trump's margin is down to 67k votes, with 125k votes to be counted, and the votes are trending heavily toward Biden because they come from more populated areas - not just Atlanta, but Savannah and Albany (pronounced down here as "all-benny"). The pundits are saying that the presidential race looks just like the Abrams/Kemp governors race in 2018, a 55k vote margin race that Kemp ended up winning . . . which raised eyebrows because as Sec State then he was the one in charge of running the election . . . .
The current Sec State (an R) wants to wrap this count up tonight, so stay tuned . . . .
Local news is reporting that Trump's margin is down to 67k votes, with 125k votes to be counted, and the votes are trending heavily toward Biden because they come from more populated areas - not just Atlanta, but Savannah and Albany (pronounced down here as "all-benny"). The pundits are saying that the presidential race looks just like the Abrams/Kemp governors race in 2018, a 55k vote margin race that Kemp ended up winning . . . which raised eyebrows because as Sec State then he was the one in charge of running the election . . . .
The current Sec State (an R) wants to wrap this count up tonight, so stay tuned . . . .
Isn't the supreme court 6 to 3 in favor of Trump's cronies? Will they rule as such or will they use wisdom or law?
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Is this the video? Are the “armed” guys the guys that are wearing camera gear?
When will you recant?
LOL they still have to have a case in front of them with evidence of fraud etc (i.e. proof). trump should drop it
I don't think a lot of "liberals" are gleeful about Biden, since many of them consider him far too much centrist.
So what is Pence- the likely GOP nominee in 2024?
"After graduating from law school in 1986, Pence was an attorney in private practice.[27] In 1988, Pence ran for Congress against Democratic incumbent Philip Sharp, but lost.[28] He ran against Sharp again in 1990, quitting his job in order to work full-time in the campaign, but once again was unsuccessful.[28] During the race, Pence used "political donations to pay the mortgage on his house, his personal credit card bill, groceries, golf tournament fees and car payments for his wife".[29] While the spending was not illegal at the time, it reportedly undermined his campaign.[29]"
Look if the Dems would have had someone ELECTABLE who could have BEATEN Trump other than Biden I'd have supported them. I don't really vote based on my personal circumstances-I basically vote for who embodies qualities that I feel define my concept of being an American. Donald Trump is about as far from that characterization as someone could be, so for me, it was more about getting Trump and his grifters and enablers out of my universe as any other reason...
Hey, maybe DJT can run a 3rd party campaign in 2024.
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Actually, that would be awesome. If anyone can make a third party viable, it's Trump. He takes over the Reform Party like Buchanan tried to do, and he'll win more votes than Perot. The major parties will have no choice but to realign.
I don't think I ever said "armed guys". What I saw was a cut to a live on-scene reporter and the shouting which the microphone picked up while the correspondent was reporting on events. I based my characterization on the ongoing confrontation I saw and heard around where the correspondent was reporting from...
Why not recount the states Trump won narrowly vs the ones he lost.
Funny how no one ever mentions them. It's quite convenient that it's only the states Trump lost that is rigged.
Reason 2,456,123,879 that he's got to go.
Who could have seen Trump being a sore loser?
I suspect they'll use law and wisdom . . . to justify their preferred result unless the law is plainly contrary to that preference . . . those guys are political animals . . . .
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I would vote for you before I’d vote for Pence. What are you getting at?
And I agree that many on the Left don’t like Biden because he’s too moderate. And now you have another reason why 68M people are voting for Trump. There is no palate for moving this country far to the left.
I'm ok with that. Do you think 89% turnout is legit? Does it bother anyone that the program used in 33 MI county voting machines was assigning votes to the wrong candidates in at least one of those counties? I'm not saying I buy it all. I'm saying that there are legit questions which ought to be easily answered and should be.
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But they were white guys shouting at black guys in defense of Trump. Thus: racist.
You’re a part of the problem. Own it. Or don’t.
Edit: you said “militia type” - if that doesn’t imply armed then I don’t know what to tell you.
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