Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Of course he's a fraud, but any bank loaning money to him without accurately appraising the property and asking for audited financials is in on it. Same goes for underpayment of property taxes.I know, RIGHT!?! In what universe is this even debatable?
This claim that it's somehow not the responsibility of the loan applicant to accurately divulge the worth of his/her properties to the bank is, underrated, the most absurd claim I've seen around these parts; and that's saying a lot, because absurd claims on the Cooler, they are about as common as the sight of a high-society hooker on Rush street in Chicago (pre-pandemic of course).
It's like, what, the part on the loan application that literally states something to the extent of (SEE BELOW), that also literally requires said applicant's signature for confirmation isn't some sort of clear identification & acknowledgement that the applicant is duly, solely, wholly and unequivocally responsible for the information (information that is absolutely inclusive of property valuations) for which the applicant has provided on the form????
SIGNATURES. By signing below, Loan Applicant confirms that the information provided on all accompanying financial statements, valuations, and schedules for the purpose of obtaining credit and represents that the information submitted is accurate and complete. Loan Applicant acknowledges that representations made in this application will be relied on by Lender in evaluating this application and, if approved, in extending credit. Loan Applicant represents that none of the parties named in this application have relied on advice from the Lender in applying for or receiving any credit. Loan Applicant will promptly notify Lender of any subsequent changes which would affect the accuracy of this application, and will provide all documents and information that Lender decides are necessary to complete this application. Loan Applicant authorizes Lender to retain this application, whether or not Lender approves any extension of credit. Any intentional misrepresentation of the information contained herein could result in criminal action under federal law. By signing below, the undersigned agree(s) to all the terms and conditions of this Application
Date _____________________________
Applicant Name: _____________________________
Applicant Title: _____________________________
Applicant Signature: ______________________
Nope, the applicant (Donald J. Trump in this case) would bear no responsibility at all.
Ha! Now that's Rich!
Donald Trump though?
Apparently not so rich
It took me a while to get through the entire thing, but it looks like a more detailed accounting of what we all already knew was true. But it's the specifics you mentioned that are the most tantalizing. Who wouldn't relish seeing Donald Trump truly go broke?
The sad part is you wouldn't even get a job as a bank teller with his credit history. Yet, he's president....
If anyone “fixed it”, it would be Dems but then the rubes would put you guys right back in to f*** it all up again. The cons have convinced (maybe you could even say conned) the rubes into believing that the best thing for the working man is to give billionaires tax cuts. The cons will give permanent tax cuts to billionaires but the ones for the middle class always have an expiration date.
From the Times: "It is important to remember that the returns are not an unvarnished look at Mr. Trump's business activity. They are instead his own portrayal of his companies, compiled for the I.R.S. But they do offer the most detailed picture yet available."And this is over and above what they have received from the US government from all trump's golf trips.
This is a very good point. I see the Trump supporters giving this a big nothing, but it’s potentially a huge national security issue.
Their job is to lie? To undervalue assets? To overvalue liabilities?
Of course he's a fraud, but any bank loaning money to him without accurately appraising the property and asking for audited financials is in on it. Same goes for underpayment of property taxes.
Income tax fraud maybe but avoidance of Federal Gift and Estate tax more likely, which is a way steeper tax.There was a lot to wade through, but that one jumped out at me. Sounds like a classic case of tax fraud, and Ivanka was a willing participant. Gotta think that puts her in the crosshairs as well.
There was a lot to wade through, but that one jumped out at me. Sounds like a classic case of tax fraud, and Ivanka was a willing participant. Gotta think that puts her in the crosshairs as well.
If anyone “fixed it”, it would be Dems but then the rubes would put you guys right back in to f*** it all up again. The cons have convinced (maybe you could even say conned) the rubes into believing that the best thing for the working man is to give billionaires tax cuts. The cons will give permanent tax cuts to billionaires but the ones for the middle class always have an expiration date.
Umm...yeah. 🙄
You would think so, wouldn't you? Do the payments to Ivanka for consulting sound kosher to you? Perhaps they didn't look into the company -- owned by Ivanka -- they were paid to. Otherwise, I dunno.I know you despise the Trumps Mark, but you think this is somehow this supposed bombshell is new to the IRS? They've likely audited him and his enterprises many times during many administrations.
You would think so, wouldn't you? Do the payments to Ivanka for consulting sound kosher to you? Perhaps they didn't look into the company -- owned by Ivanka -- they were paid to. Otherwise, I dunno.
There very well may be nothing technically illegal going on, but that doesn't make it any less sordid.
You would think so, wouldn't you? Do the payments to Ivanka for consulting sound kosher to you? Perhaps they didn't look into the company -- owned by Ivanka -- they were paid to. Otherwise, I dunno.
There very well may be nothing technically illegal going on, but that doesn't make it any less sordid.
What is the JYT?Always good to see you slip in a racist tweak, and show your true colors.
That would be an old slur renaming the New York Times by substituting a rhyming word. I assume you can figure it out from here.What is the JYT?
You and ribbont need to re-read twenty02’s post. You’re both really struggling with this which is not completely surprising. Try to pretend you’re literate and give it the old college try. I believe in you.I know you despise the Trumps Mark, but you think this is somehow this supposed bombshell is new to the IRS? They've likely audited him and his enterprises many times during many administrations.
Surprisingly, I have heard of the Times, but was not familiar with that slander. Not cool...That would be an old slur renaming the New York Times by substituting a rhyming word. I assume you can figure it out from here.
(Hint to the poster that reads no papers and watches no news - The New York Times is a newspaper published in New York City.)
I don't know. All I know is it smells. Bill may have pointed out the real motivation.I'm not versed in tax rules, but if Ivanka actually provided consultation and services and her income was taxable, then what exactly is the problem? If that income was somehow not taxable then I would be quite skeptical.
Sure. That smells too. Although I don't know if there would be some distinction between campaign expenses and business expenses. Was he on the payroll as well?I assume you feel the same way about Congresswoman Omar, who paid her ex-Mister, now husband hundreds of thousands of dollars out of political funds for "consultation"?
You would think so, wouldn't you? Do the payments to Ivanka for consulting sound kosher to you? Perhaps they didn't look into the company -- owned by Ivanka -- they were paid to. Otherwise, I dunno.
There very well may be nothing technically illegal going on, but that doesn't make it any less sordid.
Seriously, sorry for the snark. It was uncalled for.Surprisingly, I have heard of the Times, but was not familiar with that slander. Not cool...
Also, I was mistaken about reading or watching no news. I do subscribe to Heather Cox Richardson on FB & read it occasionally, but not daily. I would highly recommend her to anyone looking for an alternative to mainstream media, but she is certainly slanted to the left...it was an honestly accidental omission.Surprisingly, I have heard of the Times, but was not familiar with that slander. Not cool...
You and ribbont need to re-read twenty02’s post. You’re both really struggling with this which is not completely surprising. Try to pretend you’re literate and give it the old college try. I believe in you.
I don't know. All I know is it smells. Bill may have pointed out the real motivation.
Sure. That smells too. Although I don't know if there would be some distinction between campaign expenses and business expenses. Was he on the payroll as well?
Shouldn’t we hold the POTUS to a higher standard than just a guy who cheats on his taxes? This seems so obvious to me.
This seems to be lost to many on this board. Must be a symptom of trickle-down leadership.
He cheats at golf. How much lower can you get?Shouldn’t we hold the POTUS to a higher standard than just a guy who cheats on his taxes? This seems so obvious to me.
Duh...nobody voted for T.rump, and nobody supports him. He was somehow magically enchanted into the Oval Office by some sort of Dem witchcraft, which is really confusing, seeing how the Right sure is trying to blame President Biden for the last four years. Either way, it's the Lefties' fault.And, have you noticed, right on cue, all the people who don’t support Trump, never even dreamed of voting for Trump and swear they never would vote for Trump have all simultaneous jumped to the “is it illegal, or just shady-looking” argument.
Shouldn’t we hold the POTUS to a higher standard than just a guy who cheats on his taxes? This seems so obvious to me.
Duh...nobody voted for T.rump, and nobody supports him. He was somehow magically enchanted into the Oval Office by some sort of Dem witchcraft, which is really confusing, seeing how the Right sure is trying to blame President Biden for the last four years. Either way, it's the Lefties' fault.
If that's your barometer, then what were your thoughts on Billy? Genuinely curious.
I was never in the impeach camp and in revisiting with today's view, still don't find myself with Newt and the others.
If that's your barometer, then what were your thoughts on Billy? Genuinely curious.
I was never in the impeach camp and in revisiting with today's view, still don't find myself with Newt and the others.
How much is your house worth? Exactly?I know, RIGHT!?! In what universe is this even debatable?
This claim that it's somehow not the responsibility of the loan applicant to accurately divulge the worth of his/her properties to the bank is, underrated, the most absurd claim I've seen around these parts; and that's saying a lot, because absurd claims on the Cooler, they are about as common as the sight of a high-society hooker on Rush street in Chicago (pre-pandemic of course).
It's like, what, the part on the loan application that literally states something to the extent of (SEE BELOW), that also literally requires said applicant's signature for confirmation isn't some sort of clear identification & acknowledgement that the applicant is duly, solely, wholly and unequivocally responsible for the information (information that is absolutely inclusive of property valuations) for which the applicant has provided on the form????
SIGNATURES. By signing below, Loan Applicant confirms that the information provided on all accompanying financial statements, valuations, and schedules for the purpose of obtaining credit and represents that the information submitted is accurate and complete. Loan Applicant acknowledges that representations made in this application will be relied on by Lender in evaluating this application and, if approved, in extending credit. Loan Applicant represents that none of the parties named in this application have relied on advice from the Lender in applying for or receiving any credit. Loan Applicant will promptly notify Lender of any subsequent changes which would affect the accuracy of this application, and will provide all documents and information that Lender decides are necessary to complete this application. Loan Applicant authorizes Lender to retain this application, whether or not Lender approves any extension of credit. Any intentional misrepresentation of the information contained herein could result in criminal action under federal law. By signing below, the undersigned agree(s) to all the terms and conditions of this Application
Date _____________________________
Applicant Name: _____________________________
Applicant Title: _____________________________
Applicant Signature: ______________________
Nope, the applicant (Donald J. Trump in this case) would bear no responsibility at all.
Ha! Now that's Rich!
Donald Trump though?
Apparently not so rich
thank you. I think ole Timmy boy is about ready to stroke outOf course he's a fraud, but any bank loaning money to him without accurately appraising the property and asking for audited financials is in on it. Same goes for underpayment of property taxes.
I'm not versed in tax rules, but if Ivanka actually provided consultation and services and her income was taxable, then what exactly is the problem? If that income was somehow not taxable then I would be quite skeptical.
I assume you feel the same way about Congresswoman Omar, who paid her ex-Mister, now husband hundreds of thousands of dollars out of political funds for "consultation"?