Wasn't that his platform to start but went full on abolish mode as his tenure moved on?
Of course things changed after seccession and the war. But even then it was incremental. The Emancipation Proclamation only applied to the warring states, for example. But by war's end he knew that the question had to be settled once and for all if the Union was to be preserved.
I don't know if you realize it or not, Tommy, but Lincoln was a little preoccupied with keeping the Union together to worry about what he was doing was conservative or liberal.
No, that happened because Trump and Lin Wood told the Pubs the election was rigged and that they should stay home.
I don't trust what any politician says. I judge them by what they do.
Critical race theory is an attempt to teach the truth that, historically in America, people have not been judged as individuals, but on the color of their skin. Republicans, of course, as always deny reality and make the absurd claim that teaching about racism is racism. Looking at people primarily through their skin color is what Republicans are doing now as they try to take away the right of black people to vote. Trying to stop Republicans from succeeding in this is what Democrats are doing.
“Teaching CRT” is not the same thing as “teaching about racism”
Exactly...to save the Union, Lincoln had to become a Democrat.
Was Robert Byrd a democrat when he organized and led a local chapter of the KKK in the 40s? Why was he forgiven by the democrats?
We’re talking about democrats. I thought I’d ask this question. I’ve never understood how he rose to the top echelons of his party.
Ask Lee Atwater, I have posted his quotes here many times. The Republicans developed a southern strategy to actively take racists from the Democratic Party. Look at his quotes and see if there is any other possible explanation. The D party that Byrd was part of all moved to the R party.
At a certain point you have to give up. They feel a certain way, ergo that is fact. "I feel that I am part of a party that is the good guys. And Lincoln was doing good stuff and even though he came from a religious party that espoused several extremely conservative views, the fact he got things right on the topic that we think is the only important topic by which to view our country's history must make him one of us."
I listed several items, colleges, rail, homesteading, where Lincoln took what was the liberal position of his era.
You’re right. Give up and let them have their way. Their party was the party of slave owners and they want to claim the Republican that took them away.
Look up Atwater's quote and tell me that isn't what he said was the GOP was doing. Go ahead. So far in a couple threads this has come up not a single person has tackled Atwater.
Black Lives Matters Organization is in step with CRT aren't they? What is their goal? It is the overthrow of the United States. Their website said so. They are a bunch of communists.
This Southern Strategy of Nixon is still largely a myth. Some of the Democrats believe so strongly in it because it makes you feel better about your party. It makes you feel better that the party of slavery, Jim Crow and the Klan has somehow cleansed itself. Nixon didn't convert your racists to Republicans. Just look at prominent Dixiecrats. Except for Strom Thurmond most of them stayed Democrats. Robert Byrd never left the party. Neither did George Wallace or Al Gore Sr. When Nixon won in 1968, supposedly employing the "Southern Strategy," Democrat George Wallace won the deep south states. This alone should give the "Southern Strategy" believers pause. It doesn't support your theory at all. Nixon basically didn't even campaign in the south in '68. He concentrated on the north and the Sunbelt. Nothing Nixon ran on was racist. "Law and order" isn't racist. A majority of Americans didn't have positive opinions of "hippies" protesting the Vietnam war. "Law and order" appealed to them. Nixon supported Civil Rights and he supported Affirmative Action. He was ultimately a crook, but he never ran on racist policies. Besides he won in landslides in the North and the Sunbelt in 1968 and won nearly every state in 1972. Again, it doesn't support the theory. Atwater is a single person. He's not the party. What Atwater said in no way proves that he had final say in what the party did or that any prominent Republicans really bought into what he said in an interview years after the supposed implementation of this "strategy."
). I was shocked when I heard the guy tell another guy, "I'd vote for the blackest N-word before I'd vote for a Republican." Obviously that solid Democrat (and racist) hated Republicans more than he hated black people. Racists live among us, obviously.Excellent post and you hit on an important issue: abortion. I believe this is one of, if not THE, major reasons southerners started voting Republican.This Southern Strategy of Nixon is still largely a myth. Some of the Democrats believe so strongly in it because it makes you feel better about your party. It makes you feel better that the party of slavery, Jim Crow and the Klan has somehow cleansed itself. Nixon didn't convert your racists to Republicans. Just look at prominent Dixiecrats. Except for Strom Thurmond most of them stayed Democrats. Robert Byrd never left the party. Neither did George Wallace or Al Gore Sr. When Nixon won in 1968, supposedly employing the "Southern Strategy," Democrat George Wallace won the deep south states. This alone should give the "Southern Strategy" believers pause. It doesn't support your theory at all. Nixon basically didn't even campaign in the south in '68. He concentrated on the north and the Sunbelt. Nothing Nixon ran on was racist. "Law and order" isn't racist. A majority of Americans didn't have positive opinions of "hippies" protesting the Vietnam war. "Law and order" appealed to them. Nixon supported Civil Rights and he supported Affirmative Action. He was ultimately a crook, but he never ran on racist policies. Besides he won in landslides in the North and the Sunbelt in 1968 and won nearly every state in 1972. Again, it doesn't support the theory. Atwater is a single person. He's not the party. What Atwater said in no way proves that he had a say in what the party did or that any prominent Republicans really bought into what he said in an interview years after the supposed implementation of this "strategy."
More southern Democrats became Republicans as their economic situation improved. That plus social issues (abortion especially) were the keys for Republicans gaining popularity in the south. Of course some racists have probably come to favor the Republican party because they THINK they're more comfortable there, but make no mistake, there are plenty of racists in the Democratic party too.
I'll depart with the comment I overheard in 1980 from a prominent Democratic activist in Bloomington when I was helping with the Carter campaign (to be honest, helping very little, as I was more preoccupied with partying, but I passed out a few flyers and attended a meeting or two
You tackle the wrong issue. Atwater worked for Reagan and Bush 41, not Nixon. Atwater also worked for Thurmond. I have posted his quote, is he lying? Did he not have power in the GOP? Was he not famous and powerful inside the party?This Southern Strategy of Nixon is still largely a myth. Some of the Democrats believe so strongly in it because it makes you feel better about your party. It makes you feel better that the party of slavery, Jim Crow and the Klan has somehow cleansed itself. Nixon didn't convert your racists to Republicans. Just look at prominent Dixiecrats. Except for Strom Thurmond most of them stayed Democrats. Robert Byrd never left the party. Neither did George Wallace or Al Gore Sr. When Nixon won in 1968, supposedly employing the "Southern Strategy," Democrat George Wallace won the deep south states. This alone should give the "Southern Strategy" believers pause. It doesn't support your theory at all. Nixon basically didn't even campaign in the south in '68. He concentrated on the north and the Sunbelt. Nothing Nixon ran on was racist. "Law and order" isn't racist. A majority of Americans didn't have positive opinions of "hippies" protesting the Vietnam war. "Law and order" appealed to them. Nixon supported Civil Rights and he supported Affirmative Action. He was ultimately a crook, but he never ran on racist policies. Besides he won in landslides in the North and the Sunbelt in 1968 and won nearly every state in 1972. Again, it doesn't support the theory. Atwater is a single person. He's not the party. What Atwater said in no way proves that he had final say in what the party did or that any prominent Republicans really bought into what he said in an interview years after the supposed implementation of this "strategy."
More southern Democrats became Republicans as their economic situation improved. That plus social issues (abortion especially) were the keys for Republicans gaining popularity in the south. Of course some racists have probably come to favor the Republican party because they THINK they're more comfortable there, but make no mistake, there are plenty of racists in the Democratic party too.
I'll depart with the comment I overheard in 1980 from a prominent Democratic activist in Bloomington when I was helping with the Carter campaign (to be honest, helping very little, as I was more preoccupied with partying, but I passed out a few flyers and attended a meeting or two
Everyone points to Nixon as employing a "Southern Strategy" in 1968 - when George Wallace, the actual racist running for President, won the deep south states. Where's the evidence that Nixon actually employed this "Southern Strategy?"
I am not sure where I am failing to communicate. The question is Lee Atwater, a games Republican operative who headed a couple different winning Republican campaigns and neither is named Nixon. He has a quote about going after racists. I am more than willing to discuss Nixon after we settle on Atwater.
