How should history be taught in high school?
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You're right. You've expressed it.
Bro, you argue with people more accomplished than you every time you hit reply.
LOL
Accusations aren't proof. Just like the morons trying to pass Carmel HS off as pushing CRT. Their group has had to rebrand four times, and they have even distanced themselves from Moms 4 Liberty.
Go pick up a ride. And tap out. Everyone knows you’re an idiot
It was from the state boards. I already did this clunkhead. I’m not doing it again.
i could do this page after page after page. you are again where arrogance meets ignorance. you poke those who are better educated, have more relevant experience, and then when you are proven wrong still deny same. indiana isn't representative of the country
From the Az Dept of Ed
Critical Race Theory (CRT) is being taught in many public schools. It’s not a myth, and it’s not just a college-level curriculum. It’s an ideology that can wear many different labels.
Critical Race Theory and Social Emotional Learning Explained
Tom Horne on CRTCRITICAL RACE THEORY IS REAL, NO MATTER WHAT IT’S CALLED Critical Race Theory (CRT) is being taught in many public schools. It’s not a myth, and it’s not just a college-level curriculum. It’s an ideology that can wear many different labels.Because many CRT supporters recognize...
California
California has adopted many aspects of CRT at all levels of education. In March 2021, the state Board of Education passed an ethnic studies curriculum based in large part on CRT that applies to all…
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California has adopted many aspects of CRT at all levels of education. In March 2021, the state Board of Education passed an ethnic studies curriculum based in large part on CRT that applies to all public schools
WASHINGTON (TND) — A Detroit Public Schools superintendent said the district would be “embedding critical race theory” into the curriculum because “students need to understand the truth of history.”
Detroit superintendent says district was 'intentional' about 'embedding' CRT into schools
A Detroit Public Schools superintendent said the district would be “embedding critical race theory” into the curriculum because “students need to understand the truth of history. ”Dr. Nikolai Vitti, the superintendent of Detroit Public Schools Community District, said during a school board...
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Brad teaches CRT in book club.i could do this page after page after page. you are again where arrogance meets ignorance. you poke those who are better educated, have more relevant experience, and then when you are proven wrong still deny same. indiana isn't representative of the country
From the Az Dept of Ed
Critical Race Theory (CRT) is being taught in many public schools. It’s not a myth, and it’s not just a college-level curriculum. It’s an ideology that can wear many different labels.
Critical Race Theory and Social Emotional Learning Explained
Tom Horne on CRTCRITICAL RACE THEORY IS REAL, NO MATTER WHAT IT’S CALLED Critical Race Theory (CRT) is being taught in many public schools. It’s not a myth, and it’s not just a college-level curriculum. It’s an ideology that can wear many different labels.Because many CRT supporters recognize...www.azed.gov
California
California has adopted many aspects of CRT at all levels of education. In March 2021, the state Board of Education passed an ethnic studies curriculum based in large part on CRT that applies to all…
California has adopted many aspects of CRT at all levels of education. In March 2021, the state Board of Education passed an ethnic studies curriculum based in large part on CRT that applies to all public schools
WASHINGTON (TND) — A Detroit Public Schools superintendent said the district would be “embedding critical race theory” into the curriculum because “students need to understand the truth of history.”
Dr. Nikolai Vitti, the superintendent of Detroit Public Schools Community District, said during a school board meeting last month that the district’s curriculum "is deeply using critical race theory."Detroit superintendent says district was 'intentional' about 'embedding' CRT into schools
A Detroit Public Schools superintendent said the district would be “embedding critical race theory” into the curriculum because “students need to understand the truth of history. ”Dr. Nikolai Vitti, the superintendent of Detroit Public Schools Community District, said during a school board...
No no no Mark!!! Mark that’s enough. We’re moving on to Marv. Marv? Marv!!! Wake up!! Yes you can pass. Again. Lars. Lars?!!! It says he’s joined. Does anyone see Lars on their computer? LARS?!!!!!
Lars teaches CRT in Book Club also?No no no Mark!!! Mark that’s enough. We’re moving on to Marv. Marv? Marv!!! Wake up!! Yes you can pass. Again. Lars. Lars?!!! It says he’s joined. Does anyone see Lars on their computer? LARS?!!!!!
I say we stick to the Classics.
Sad that Gay, Black, Paraplegic Kings from the 1600s had much nicer rides than those who need wheelchairs in the modern era.
I'll reopen this a bit. The idea that history is an argument about the past is stupid. There may be unknown answers to many pertinent questions, events or decisions, but why not start with the facts? While memorization is agreeably not always the best indicator of understanding, how can you draw conclusions or learnings if you don't even know historical events, periods, etc.?
I'm guessing this teacher is going to rant against concepts like Manifest Destiny, but complicated constructs such as that deserve multi-faceted arguments. There are pros and cons, as is the case with most historical concepts.
I mean, we both know, in reality he had groups of peasants carrying him around with his maidens.
Depends on which king. I'm not familiar with this show, so which one are we talking about?
I have no idea. I don't watch that garbage. I'd guess 16th century or so.
If there ain't no dragons, i don't watch it.
I had heard one of the VIking shows was solid on Netflix. If I can find time, I'm going to give it a shot.
A month + in, and I've had the opportunity through my son's history class to discuss the varying confidence of inferential arguments, the grand narratives that people want to use "history" for in order to advance their own political agendas, and ancient human origins. In this sense, it's been satisfying having these discussions with my son and he hasn't balked at me providing him with a little extra reading on the subject (yet).
Case in point: in his history class, they are teaching that the origins of inequality in human societies stem from agriculture. According to his teacher, inequality did not exist in pre-agricultural societies, those people lived longer than their farming descendents, and the hunter-gatherers did less work, were happier, egalitarian, and peaceful. Conclusion: human nature is to live in non-hierarchical societies where everything is shared and we are peaceful. His teacher actually said he would have preferred living in such a society and that we would have been better off if the Agricultural Revolution never happened.
And while I was surprised, it is apparent that such a narrative is consistent with mainstream anthropology and archeology. Engels and Rousseau have not been completely debunked yet, I guess.
www.theguardian.com
Unfortunately, what they are not teaching is (1) there is counter-evidence to this narrative (despite the articles linked below) and (2) very little confidence should be had in these conclusions given the variables involved, the time elapsed, and the dearth of actual evidence regarding the conclusions.
Difference of opinion is not sanctioned, either. When my son received the open-ended essay prompt
"Did inequality exist prior to the Agricultural Revolution? If your answer is yes, cite your evidence and provide your reasoning. If your answer is no, cite your evidence and provide your reasoning."
he answered "yes" and cited and argued from articles and was told by his teacher he had to rewrite it and that the answer was "no." (His grade did not suffer from rewriting it).
Parent-teacher conferences are going to be fun.
https://aeon.co/essays/not-all-early-human-societies-were-small-scale-egalitarian-bands
www.economist.com
Case in point: in his history class, they are teaching that the origins of inequality in human societies stem from agriculture. According to his teacher, inequality did not exist in pre-agricultural societies, those people lived longer than their farming descendents, and the hunter-gatherers did less work, were happier, egalitarian, and peaceful. Conclusion: human nature is to live in non-hierarchical societies where everything is shared and we are peaceful. His teacher actually said he would have preferred living in such a society and that we would have been better off if the Agricultural Revolution never happened.
And while I was surprised, it is apparent that such a narrative is consistent with mainstream anthropology and archeology. Engels and Rousseau have not been completely debunked yet, I guess.
Was the Agricultural Revolution a Terrible Mistake? Not If You Take Food Processing Into Account - Rachel Laudan
The agriculture-as disaster theory rests, at least in part, on ignoring the work involved importance of processing and cooking food
www.rachellaudan.com
How Neolithic farming sowed the seeds of modern inequality 10,000 years ago
The prehistoric shift towards cultivation began our preoccupation with hierarchy and growth – and even changed how we perceive the passage of time
Unfortunately, what they are not teaching is (1) there is counter-evidence to this narrative (despite the articles linked below) and (2) very little confidence should be had in these conclusions given the variables involved, the time elapsed, and the dearth of actual evidence regarding the conclusions.
Difference of opinion is not sanctioned, either. When my son received the open-ended essay prompt
"Did inequality exist prior to the Agricultural Revolution? If your answer is yes, cite your evidence and provide your reasoning. If your answer is no, cite your evidence and provide your reasoning."
he answered "yes" and cited and argued from articles and was told by his teacher he had to rewrite it and that the answer was "no." (His grade did not suffer from rewriting it).
Parent-teacher conferences are going to be fun.
https://aeon.co/essays/not-all-early-human-societies-were-small-scale-egalitarian-bands
Noble or savage?
The era of the hunter-gatherer was not the social and environmental Eden that some suggest
Your son's teacher in his spare timeA month + in, and I've had the opportunity through my son's history class to discuss the varying confidence of inferential arguments, the grand narratives that people want to use "history" for in order to advance their own political agendas, and ancient human origins. In this sense, it's been satisfying having these discussions with my son and he hasn't balked at me providing him with a little extra reading on the subject (yet).
Case in point: in his history class, they are teaching that the origins of inequality in human societies stem from agriculture. According to his teacher, inequality did not exist in pre-agricultural societies, those people lived longer than their farming descendents, and the hunter-gatherers did less work, were happier, egalitarian, and peaceful. Conclusion: human nature is to live in non-hierarchical societies where everything is shared and we are peaceful. His teacher actually said he would have preferred living in such a society and that we would have been better off if the Agricultural Revolution never happened.
And while I was surprised, it is apparent that such a narrative is consistent with mainstream anthropology and archeology. Engels and Rousseau have not been completely debunked yet, I guess.
Was the Agricultural Revolution a Terrible Mistake? Not If You Take Food Processing Into Account - Rachel Laudan
The agriculture-as disaster theory rests, at least in part, on ignoring the work involved importance of processing and cooking foodwww.rachellaudan.com
How Neolithic farming sowed the seeds of modern inequality 10,000 years ago
The prehistoric shift towards cultivation began our preoccupation with hierarchy and growth – and even changed how we perceive the passage of time
Unfortunately, what they are not teaching is (1) there is counter-evidence to this narrative (despite the articles linked below) and (2) very little confidence should be had in these conclusions given the variables involved, the time elapsed, and the dearth of actual evidence regarding the conclusions.
Difference of opinion is not sanctioned, either. When my son received the open-ended essay prompt
"Did inequality exist prior to the Agricultural Revolution? If your answer is yes, cite your evidence and provide your reasoning. If your answer is no, cite your evidence and provide your reasoning."
he answered "yes" and cited and argued from articles and was told by his teacher he had to rewrite it and that the answer was "no." (His grade did not suffer from rewriting it).
Parent-teacher conferences are going to be fun.
https://aeon.co/essays/not-all-early-human-societies-were-small-scale-egalitarian-bands
Noble or savage?
The era of the hunter-gatherer was not the social and environmental Eden that some suggest
Drove through Oak Park on Friday. More Harris/ Walz signs than I’ve seen anywhere else in Chicago. You are in a desperate situation and I feel for you.A month + in, and I've had the opportunity through my son's history class to discuss the varying confidence of inferential arguments, the grand narratives that people want to use "history" for in order to advance their own political agendas, and ancient human origins. In this sense, it's been satisfying having these discussions with my son and he hasn't balked at me providing him with a little extra reading on the subject (yet).
Case in point: in his history class, they are teaching that the origins of inequality in human societies stem from agriculture. According to his teacher, inequality did not exist in pre-agricultural societies, those people lived longer than their farming descendents, and the hunter-gatherers did less work, were happier, egalitarian, and peaceful. Conclusion: human nature is to live in non-hierarchical societies where everything is shared and we are peaceful. His teacher actually said he would have preferred living in such a society and that we would have been better off if the Agricultural Revolution never happened.
And while I was surprised, it is apparent that such a narrative is consistent with mainstream anthropology and archeology. Engels and Rousseau have not been completely debunked yet, I guess.
Was the Agricultural Revolution a Terrible Mistake? Not If You Take Food Processing Into Account - Rachel Laudan
The agriculture-as disaster theory rests, at least in part, on ignoring the work involved importance of processing and cooking foodwww.rachellaudan.com
How Neolithic farming sowed the seeds of modern inequality 10,000 years ago
The prehistoric shift towards cultivation began our preoccupation with hierarchy and growth – and even changed how we perceive the passage of time
Unfortunately, what they are not teaching is (1) there is counter-evidence to this narrative (despite the articles linked below) and (2) very little confidence should be had in these conclusions given the variables involved, the time elapsed, and the dearth of actual evidence regarding the conclusions.
Difference of opinion is not sanctioned, either. When my son received the open-ended essay prompt
"Did inequality exist prior to the Agricultural Revolution? If your answer is yes, cite your evidence and provide your reasoning. If your answer is no, cite your evidence and provide your reasoning."
he answered "yes" and cited and argued from articles and was told by his teacher he had to rewrite it and that the answer was "no." (His grade did not suffer from rewriting it).
Parent-teacher conferences are going to be fun.
https://aeon.co/essays/not-all-early-human-societies-were-small-scale-egalitarian-bands
Noble or savage?
The era of the hunter-gatherer was not the social and environmental Eden that some suggest
His teacher is in his mid- to late-20's, and clearly very progressive. Classroom is decorated with Latino worker's movement and black power posters from the mid-20th century.Your son's teacher in his spare time
He's passionate about teaching, I think, but is young enough and not educated/experienced enough to understand the limitations of the discipline/ideology that he believes in.
At least he believes in grading, though. The English teacher is a proponent of "ungrading" and so just automatically records a 100.00 for every kid on every assignment and test. I have no way to knowing what, if anything, my kid needs help with or is mastering. But at least it's progressive/feminist/critical/radical/decolonizing:
Ungrading: an FAQ
Ungrading works best when it's part of a more holistic pedagogical practice, when we also rethink due dates, policies, syllabi, and assignments.
www.jessestommel.com
"Grades reinforce teacher/student hierarchies (and institution/teacher hierarchies) while exacerbating other problematic power relationships. Women, POC, disabled people, neurodiverse people are all ill-served by a destructive culture of grading and assessment."
It's not in schools, though . . .
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