Bob Woodward says Trump & Putin have talked 7 times on the phone since 2021
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Except when they become citizens they don't overwhelming vote blue. Some immigrant populations lean red even.
Not saying you’re wrong but do you have a citation for that?
Because I find that very hard to believe.
Everything I’ve seen show the opposite, more or less overwhelmingly.
I've read immigrants from former (or current) communist states lean read, but I've never seen the stats to back it up
I know about twenty or so Polish and Czech immigrants and I'd say 7 to 8 out of 10 will probably vote for Trump. And while I like them, they tend towards a kind of racism that would not be acceptable outside their own communities.
Each group and culture is different, of course.
We’re starting to see that with Hispanics who had leaned heavily Democratic for decades. Hence this administration importing the new batch to buy them a few more decades.
I liked it because I thought it was a very Mark thing to say. I don’t get offended if people don’t share my views.
Nah. God is too busy worrying about football and basketball games.
I don't know. I was just probably just talking out of my ass. I was thinking mainly of Cubans. And it doesn't feel like immigrants are the slam dunk for Dems like that maybe used to be.
And don’t forget individual at bats in a baseball game. I love watching a hitter spend 15 seconds doing the sign of the cross and pointing to the sky before getting in the box.
Listen to James Carville about Trump winning in Florida in 2020. Duval county on I-4 corridor, a “so called bellwether county went better for Biden than HRC- in the inimitable language of Carville “but that’s a case of yes Mrs Lincoln, other than that, how was the play”. Because Dade county normally blue as heck went soft purple as the Venezuelans in Miami
listened to Trump campaign talk of Biden and crew as socialist, they went hard for Trump. Florida is a miniature version of the U.S. Panhandle and the Villages are Trump, Dade county traditionally blue, and the I-40 corridor decides things many many elections
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Link? I haven't heard that from ANYBODY.
The constant complaint from the right accusing her of being "a dumb b!tch" has nothing to do with her being a woman? Interesting...
I think that your mirror doesn't work. When you look into it, you don't see what everyone else sees.
What is even more amazing are the people who point to her and say she should be the first woman president. She will take equality back to the Stone Age.
Nah. She's smart, tough, and strategic. I get why that scares you, but she'll be a solid president if she wins.
Yeah she scares the hell out of me, not because of what’s between her ears, but by what is not between her ears.
Totally get policy disagreement, but the assertion that she's not smart is, frankly, dumb.
How many people have called Harris those names? I will be honest if she was a Republican I could not vote for her for rhe good of rhe country
So does this mean that you are otherwise being dishonest?
But just think if white people are calling her those names! It’s starting a conversation
Yes, exactly. That is what I meant.So does this mean that you are otherwise being dishonest?
Okay. Good to know.
FWIW, I haven't seen many people calling Harris a bitch so I think you are right there. I have seen a lot of people calling her dumb though and that is annoying because it is not at all accurate.
How can you begin to understand her policy. She has taken opposite sides on all the important issues in the last 5 years.
I read and listen.
Not true, but glad to see that you've moved on from the "not smart" thing.
She’s very average. Far from smart. I read and listen. That she isn’t smart is patent. And why she’s carefully handled. And in no way capable to handle the complexity of president. The identity politics president is a fitting end to the woke movement . She’s a shockingly bad candidate
I’m not, but the criticism of her is deeply dishonest. Honesty isn’t a MAGA trait. It’s very sad.
This is her
I would say she is status seeking. Proven herself fairly adaptable and opportunistic. All in the service of her own political career of course.
I don’t see any reason to believe she’s intelligent. There is nothing about her I find redeeming. On what do you base your belief that she is intelligent?
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If she were a Republican, you'd have already donated to her campaign.
Good ole Bob, pumping out shit since 1972. His intestines have to be whaning.What’s going on here, MAGA?
Trump and Putin have talked as many as 7 times since 2021, new book claims
Bob Woodward's book also claims that, during the height of the Covid pandemic, Trump sent Putin testing equipment for the virus.www.nbcnews.com
I guess what the field you're measuring against for that average is key. Most people here are above average intelligence (yes, I'm far below) and she's obviously as smart as folks here.
Like I've said, totally get not liking her policies. Pretending you don't know what they are or that she is dumb is just silliness.
Disagree. I don’t believe she’s as smart as the average IU grad. She’s a product of fortune and circumstance and the ability to whore herself out and ambition.
And I hope you know me well enough to recognize that the whoring out I don’t count as a dig. It evinces drive
I can totally buy her being status seeking, but I don't find her to be remarkable in that way in what drives her political career.
There are lots of people who I don't find redeeming in any way who are intelligent. You're obviously intelligent.
I have a friend whose opinion I respect who worked with her in the SF DA's office. I've observed her in action as Attorney General and Senator in California. And I've spoken with her.
Have to agree to disagree. The average IU grad is above average already, but I find her to be substantially smarter than that.
We're all a product of fortune and circumstance to a degree...and then the drive and effort we put into making something of that.
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