Yeah, from all the Eastern European and Baltic countries that got gobbled up as either part of the Soviet Empire or one of its forced satellites. Those people spent a half century under the great rule of the Russians and when the Soviet Union came unglued they got a real taste of the West and they decided to permanently bail. Who can blame them?
Bob Woodward says Trump & Putin have talked 7 times on the phone since 2021
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I agree with this, but wouldn’t we always have to decide how far we’d stretch the umbrella?
For instance, what if Putin did a Hitler and invaded a NATO member, then another, while threatening nuclear war if we get involved? Are we willing to call his bluff? Even if he’s not bluffing? Would we engage in a nuclear exchange to save Europe? We’ve always said we would.
This is where I think Trump is vs. our policy since NATO’s inception. I think he looks at it as “Russia, you can have your empire and we’ll have ours so long as you don’t invade the USA.” I think that even includes allowing them to overrun Europe. In fairness, they couldn’t overrun the Indiana National Guard with conventional forces, but my scenario includes the use/threat of tactical nukes on the battlefield and ICBM’s against us.
When libs hate you, you know you’re doing something right..
I heard Trump was trying to help BG after her arrest.What’s going on here, MAGA?
Trump and Putin have talked as many as 7 times since 2021, new book claims
Bob Woodward's book also claims that, at the height of the Covid pandemic, Trump sent Putin testing equipment for the virus.www.nbcnews.com
I feel we did draw our line with the countries already in NATO. They got battered in Ukraine, I think they would gladly take an off ramp now.
I think both Trump and Putin probably feel that a Trump victory is that off-ramp. Trump probably doesn't care about the terms of any peace, so long as he can take credit for it, and Putin has probably long ago abandoned his dream of a fully conquered Ukraine. At this point, he'd probably be satisfied with a promise to block Ukraine's accession into NATO, which Trump would give without pause, along with keeping territory already occupied, which I suspect Trump would also be fine with. The only remaining questions would be: 1) How would Zelenksyy respond to such a deal, and 2) Would it really matter?
The dancing videos are proof positive of that
As musk correctly noted this could be our last election if Harris wins. Only democracy is at issue
You noticed that, too. I thought it was an incredibly unclever attempt to turn an argument on its head, but most importantly, did you bother to listen to him explain it? It was pretty disturbing.
My attention span mostly allows for sound bites and headlines
Basically, he explained that it wasn't that elections would end, per se, but rather that the Dems would bring in so many immigrants, and then strategically settle them in certain areas, so as to turn possibly red areas blue. It was right up Tucker's alley, in other words. Fear of migrants.
Edit: especially coming from a, you know, migrant.
Perhaps, but note how I keep trying to remind you people that Trumpism is just nativism.
Ever cross your mind that Satan saved him? Serious question.
Theologically speaking, I don't believe he has that kind of ability...not without the permission of the Big Guy...which would then make it the Big Guy doing that.
Why are there so many haitians in one Ohio city?
I agree. I’ve been hesitant to say this here and take the heat and/or ridicule from both political persuasions, but God is in control of all things. He may very well have spared Trump, but not necessarily to save America. He may need America out of the way to fulfill his plan. It’s a heavy lift to create the conditions for that, requiring the delusion of the very elect. Just a thought, my brother.
Because that's where all the cats are.
They're trying to protect children from preachers.
So I have had the thought that maybe the two choices we have both kind of lead to that either way....like from his POV, he has stacked the deck to move things forward on his timeline no matter what.
I could make the case for things going off the rails no matter who wins in November.
Maybe. Things feel kind of biblical in the Middle East to me. We'll see how Israel responds to that last Iranian barrage and what fall out may follow.
Isn’t it the perfect time for Israel to try and take out Iran’s nukes? Who’s going to going to help Iran? Seems like most of the countries in the Middle East privately would be fine with Israel doing the job.
Maybe. Who knows what they have up their sleeve. I don't think anyone saw the pager attack coming.
A lifelong practicing Catholic likes this post? I don't get it.
Are you Catholic? Folks raised Catholic often have a complicated relationship with The Church.
I was raised Catholic. I am not a practicing one and have never claimed to be.
If you're children had gone to Ascension and Fenwick they would know love.......... of Christ.
Good man. I was a Public School rat and somehow morphed into a more militant Catholic than my Catholic school siblings. Probably because I didn't endure Catholic school.
