And that's really the only undisputed fact so far.
Imagine if you were an IU football fan and a NY Jets football fan.
This year is different, but many years as an IU Football fan and a Cincinnati Bengals fan often has resulted in weekends like that.
Right. No bullets are seated in the blanks in your pics, whether crimped to a point, slightly crimped over a non metallic wad or not crimped at all.Some blanks look like the photo you linked where the brass cartridge is crimped to almost a point. Other blanks are just a brass cartridge that's barely crimped, flat faced with cork, cotton, rubber or some other material to keep the powder in.
I wonder if a newbie armorer who had reservations about being ready to take that step would know the difference between those types of blank rounds and say wadcutter rounds, which look fairly similar?
It doesn't sound that complicated; which is to say there should never be a mistake....
That’s a pathetic post. I have said a few times in this thread that criminal charges against Baldwin are unlikely and they at least need further investigation. I did say he pulled the trigger and killed a colleague and a that would devastate any normal human being. Yet you bring up Trump? If you can’t keep up with my comments, then I suggest you join a kids group. This isn’t hard.
Right. No bullets are seated in the blanks in your pics, whether crimped to a point, slightly crimped over a non metallic wad or not crimped at all.
Wadcutters have an obvious bullet that's seated flush or just above flush. The wadcutter is in the middle of this pic and there's very obviously a bullet visible to anyone who has any sort of training in recognizing them. You can see how easy it is to identify a wadcutter, since you can actually see the bullet.
Someone who is supposed to be declaring whether a gun is hot or cold would know the difference. Someone with 5 minutes of instruction would know also.
Thank goodness I only had an interest in one of those teams that got buried. I can't imagine the level of suck that goes with being a Jets fan.
So, where's your post arguing with Brad, who said pretty much the same thing? Or Floor, who is much more on point on this topic?
If I'm pulling that trigger, I don't care what anyone else ever tells me about that gun being loaded or unloaded, I'M CHECKING FOR MYSELF, BEFORE I EVEN AIM THAT GUN AT SOMEONE/SOMETHING, LET ALONE PULL THE TRIGGER.
My money is on a few ammosexuals not being able to resist playing around with the gun, shooting cans or some such, then putting it back without triple checking whether or not there were any rounds still in it.
What if then, once you check it, you are not allowed to use it at all, since you are a non-expert and therefore you could have tampered with it?
Then the armorist or whatever it's called would check it before giving it to Alec right?
You'd think so, wouldn't you?
But they shouldn't have been the last to touch the gun before Baldwin
Somebody said the production staff was using that gun to plink around in the desert. If true, the armorist, or whoever was in charge of the gun, might be looking at a negligent homicide beef.
Well, there is this explanation floating around out there:
Yes, if someone hands you a live hand grenade ( & you know little about hand grenades, especially live ones, like Baldwin & guns) & tells you it's inert/harmless, if you have any sense, common or otherwise, you say no thank you, I don't know enough about grenades (firearms in Baldwin's case) to hold that thing. Baldwin is culpable, legally & otherwise.
YES, but the ultimate responsibility always lies with the individual holding, pointing & SQUEEZING THE TRIGGER of that gun. Looks like Baldwin wasn't the only one who screwed up that fatal day, but the vast amount of blame, responsibility & carelessness goes with the shooter/Baldwin. I feel sorry for all involved in this tragic accident, but someone now has to learn some very painful lessons, in more ways than one.
So in every movie ever anywhere none of the guns you see fired are pointed at anybody?
You NEVER take someone else's word if a firearm you are about to hold, is loaded or not, especially, if you are going to point that firearm in the general direction of something you don't wish to shoot, then pull the trigger.
Just as there are different types of firearms used on set, there are different types of blanks used, on set & off. Some blank cartridges fire no projectile, which will kill you. Some blanks fire a wad, & some are more dangerous than others.
That can be hard to do. Just as there are different kinds of prop guns, there are also different kinds of prop blanks & prop BULLETS.
Amazing how much people seem to know about what happened on the set - starting with Baldwin supposedly practicing his quick draw.
Him practicing his quick draw on set, I read two different accounts of. Google it & see/read for yourself. The later account/story I read on it, said he was (seated?) in a church pew practicing it, when the fatal shot was fired.
..., & that beautiful, young(er) blond would still be alive & well today.
"They have a person - maybe a TEAM ..." --- "... and LOTS of rules about handling guns ON A MOVIE SET -"
Please. You're lost in the Midwest on this topic. COH lives on the frontier, where there are cowboys and outlaws and the Old West gun culture still dominates. He has plenty of facts to combine with his frontier experience to know what happened.
