Why The Democrats Lost/Why The Democrats Think They Lost
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Seem to be blaming the voters as ignorant, racist, misogynistic, and traitors to their gender (for women).
And, blaming the ignorant voters as not getting the right vision of Democracy (democratic party control) and voting for fascists.
Exit polls said economy and immigration. Social issues made it three strikes.
No failure on the campaign’s part to relate the vision with word salads (all organic, union harvested).
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They was a quip where Trump would have won 400 EC votes v. Biden. Not sure another GOP candidate would/could have done measurably better.
There were lots of safe houses all over S. Indiana.
Project 2025’s purported definition of Trump’s Policy is a hoax. The director of the conservative think tank said in a televised live interview that the think tank created the positions as a think tank work product. It’s not a campaign position paper, just because MS NBC on air personalities claimed it was.
It’s not, but as a conservative there is a lot of it to like. I hope some of it happens.
To answer your title question, I cannot speak for Democrats as a whole, but I believe Democrats lost because Republicans gained more votes in states that added together have more than 270 electoral votes.
I see a lot of friends on Facebook complaining about how terrible Trump voters are. That is very annoying because it largely isn't true and it won't gain anything for the future.
CNN had a quote from a PA voter that the choice was between "preachy" and "crazy". They voted "crazy" because crazy wasn't talking down to them.
Harris needed an, "I feel your pain" moment, she didn't go there I think out of fear it would seem like she was dissing Biden. Frankly, she should have thrown Biden under the bus on an issue or two.
I think she should have created a plan to help childcare affordability and force Trump into that issue.
I see a lot of friends on Facebook complaining about how terrible Trump voters are. That is very annoying because it largely isn't true and it won't gain anything for the future.
CNN had a quote from a PA voter that the choice was between "preachy" and "crazy". They voted "crazy" because crazy wasn't talking down to them.
Harris needed an, "I feel your pain" moment, she didn't go there I think out of fear it would seem like she was dissing Biden. Frankly, she should have thrown Biden under the bus on an issue or two.
I think she should have created a plan to help childcare affordability and force Trump into that issue.
It's simple. More voters cared about the price of a gallon of gas and a Big Mac than character, country, and the rule of law. All the other stuff was way down the list.
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That attitude is why your side will keep losing.
Don't think so.
It was one man of poor character in the most powerful position, versus an entire administration and party honchos of poor character.
Voters chose the one, easier to keep an eye on.
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Re your FB comment, I think that explains why some people moved one way or the other: they see more and more people they know being preachy or stupid or obnoxious about their particular party/candidate, and it turns them off and makes them go the other way. I know it's irrational, but I think it's a tribal instinct that social media is amplifying and exascerbating.
The liberal pompous I am better than you attitude getting kicked in the rear is what I enjoy.
What I’ll enjoy more is when all the bogus criminal trials are thrown out or reversed by higher courts.
Watching live coverage of Jack Smith cleaning out his office might be the best of all.
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When you consider what the modern Democratic Party has become, you begin to understand how they lost touch with their base. At the home of a major donor, a billionaire who lives in a mansion overlooking San Francisco Bay, I listened to the speakers hoping to raise funds for the 2022 midterms. Waiters dressed in black with silver trays bounced between wealthy elites. The speakers outlined their strategy for winning the midterms and the 2024 election saying: “We no longer want to win the working class. We don’t need those people anymore. They’re gone forever. The future will be young Latinos and people of color.”
I was infuriated by this talk. I also thought: That is going to be a good way to get Donald Trump reelected.
I Raised $50 Million for the Democrats. This Week, I Voted for Trump.
The Democratic Party turned its back on me and my family long before I turned my back on it.
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When you consider what the modern Democratic Party has become, you begin to understand how they lost touch with their base. At the home of a major donor, a billionaire who lives in a mansion overlooking San Francisco Bay, I listened to the speakers hoping to raise funds for the 2022 midterms. Waiters dressed in black with silver trays bounced between wealthy elites. The speakers outlined their strategy for winning the midterms and the 2024 election saying: “We no longer want to win the working class. We don’t need those people anymore. They’re gone forever. The future will be young Latinos and people of color.”
I was infuriated by this talk. I also thought: That is going to be a good way to get Donald Trump reelected.
we will see
You are white so you are not worried. trump is not in office yet. Jim Crow is coming.
100% agree. People voting over 1st amendment concerns and the rule of law voted Republican. Ask Musk, Tulsi and RFK.
He does nothing - EVER - other than spew race-based lies. He is a fake account that trolls with racism.
He's all in on Woodson too. The scary thing is that I think he's for real.
Imagine a party and candidate whose ideas are so radioactive to a portion of the electorate that they would be feel compelled to vote for an "objectively horrible person"....
I don't think I'm far off with regard to most people's feelings toward Trump. There are definitely a lot of people who would never vote for him on the fact that he's immoral and a serial liar, but as last week proved, there are more people than we all thought who either have some sort of cognitive dissonance toward the horrible things he says and does and what they think he'll actually be able to do or just don't care what crap he spews.
Right. It’s us. Not you. You haven’t learned a thing
This election was a resounding victory for the country. It shows common sense still exists
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Like I said elsewhere, MAGAs are like PUkes who couldn't enjoy their basketball team last season because they were too busy worrying about what IU fans were talking about, and chanting "IU sucks" at all their games. (Are MAGAs the Libs "little brother"?)
MAGA members on this board have whined more since the election than they did after Trump got his ass kicked in 2016.
I hope he follows through 100 percent on all his plans. I really do. Mass deportations, more tax cuts, tons of tariffs, etc. I look forward to inflation going through the roof. It will be so fun to watch. Can't wait.
John Stewart breaking down some reasons why the Dems lost in a humorous way:
Okay good now we can like him again!!!!! Pride of William & Mary soccer
Center left is being generous. I still can’t get over how people miss the blatant poke at the middle on media at every chance they get. Uneducated, racist etc. This is a big reason.
You all are missing the point. The middle doesn’t care about the left and right demonizing each other. The middle cares about what’s in their house and school. They also dont like to be told what to do. They don’t like being looked down upon. They don’t like being called things they aren’t. The media and the lefts base have done this for years. Still can’t wrap their heads around it. Still calling us in the middle racist/rapists.
So who is in charge of the Democrat party at this stage of the game who can determine what went wrong and how to chart a new course?
Like a football team who just got shellacked and their coach had already been fired going into the fourth quarter.
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