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Fixed great ribs on my new Pit Boss two weeks ago. Ribs were from ALDI.
We do the majority of our shopping at Aldi. I thought the quality of most of the meat was decent. Steaks the exception. Now for some reason we use Hungry Root. It seems like a rip off but the wife likes it, so who am I to complain.
 
3-2-1 was all. I rubbed it down the night before, wrapped it in saran wrap and then did the 3-2-1 method. GroarkBoys on TikTok is my go to BBQ guru
3-2-1 is the way. Just have to really keep the temps consistent and make sure steam cannot escape during the foil step. The last step rarely take more than 30 minutes.
 
I wasn’t happy with the texture of my ribs using the standard 3-2-1 or 2-2-1 for babybacks. I cut out the foil wrap portion and have been making much better ribs.
This. Rub of your choice, 225, typically 6-7 hours without a crutch. The bark stays much nicer, just takes more time. I do put a water pan in my egg though, think hit helps the smoke “stick” & may help a little with moisture. I use a mix of primarily apple with a little hickory…

Edit: I also salt them the night before, but put rub on an hour or so before to get gummy. Time varies, but watch for the meat to pull back exposing about 1” of bone on the ends. That will produce the proper bite & chew on the ribs. If you want the meat to fall off the bone eat pot roast.😉
 
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Great topic.

I've been fortunate enough to build a nice stash of cash mainly because I had a good paying career, I've never been obsessed with nice things (actually the opposite, I like figuring out the cheaper way) and I never had any kids (which we all know is expensive as holy hell).

Here are the things that I'm most proud of finding cheaper alternatives.

1. Entertainment. Cut the cord and get an Amazon fire stick. Why Amazon, because it's the only streaming device I know that allows you to put third part streaming apps on it. That means nearly all current programming is available through the 3rd party app. From movies to your favorite shows to live sports....it's all out there.

All it costs is the fire stick ($55) and a VPN subscription ($4 a month).

Only wrinkle is I think the industry is going to start cracking down on 3rd party apps but they haven't yet and it will probably be country specific (which is where the VPN comes in).

-Shared YouTube TV account. YouTube TV allows for something like five separate accounts on a plan. My GF currently covers it but her dad and I have our own accounts and he lives in Arizona.

2. Food: Learn to cook and learn to do some basic butchering. There's sooooo much amazing cooking advice out there and by cooking yourself you can cut your food costs by 70%. I have learned to make everything that I love as good or better and faster than take out (when you account for lead time to drive to the place). From Giordano's deep dish pizza to chic fil a sandwiches to benehana chicken fried rice with homemade yum yum sauce to amazing pasta techniques to salads to steak n shake smash burgers to fries that are fresher and better than restaurants to incredible steaks to tacos and on and on and on. I save so much money and it's fun as hell to do.

Other things w/food:
-Buy a casket freezer.
-Visit goodwill stores first for kitchen appliances (I got a bread maker and a vac sealer for $10 total).
-Buy deli style food storage containers for leftovers (super cheap, super convenient and stacks well in the fridge saving space).
-Learn basic butchering (I can buy a whole chicken for $12 to $15. From that I get 2 breasts, 2 tenderloins, 2 legs, 2 thighs, 4 wings, 1 carcuss that makes a gallon of chicken stock, leftover meat that makes incredible dog treats) because I learned how to cut a chicken. Same thing with pork shoulder. It's one big bone (that you freeze for two weeks and give to your dog) but you get a bucket of pork carnitas meat to be used for tacos, pasta, salads, bbq, etc.
-Use a wok for deep frying. It's wide so I keep splatters to a minimum, it's easy to slide food into the oil safely, it's easy to grab food from the oil.

3. If you're in the market for a new car, consider a hybrid. I just bought a used Chevy Volt and it's the coolest car I've ever owned. I get -40 miles of pure EV range which covers my total commute.
I have unlimited milage because it has a gas engine (which is basically an electric generator) which gets around 35 mpg.

It's got really good get up, it's a smooth as butter ride, it's extremely quiet, I very rarely use the brakes (as it has regenerative braking which puts power back into the battery). Other than our of town gigs I never have to go to the gas station. Recommended oil changes every 25,000 miles and the disk brakes should last forever because I never use them.

As far as money saving, I supposedly pay around $3.50 for 100 miles of EV power. Currently with gas prices being what they are that's over $20 in my Lexus.

Extrapolating that out I typically put around 18,000 miles. At the ev price that will cost me $630 a year.

On my old Lexus that would currently cost me $3,600 a year.

Now if those factors stay constant and I keep the car for ten years (my Lexus is 20 years old) that's $30,000 in gas savings.

So if you're in the market for a car and do the majority of your driving within a fifty mile radius...I strongly recommend the Volt.
Are you Mr. Money Moustache?

 
I wasn’t happy with the texture of my ribs using the standard 3-2-1 or 2-2-1 for babybacks. I cut out the foil wrap portion and have been making much better ribs.
Can you explain 3-2-1 and 2-2-1 for us neophyte BBQers?
 
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Can you explain 3-2-1 and 2-2-1 for us neophyte BBQers?
Smoke at 180 for 3 hours directly on grill grate. Low temp. Lots of smoke. Then wrap ribs in tin foil and get smoker heat up to 225. Put back on for 2 hours. Then take out of foil. Mop with bbq sauce and put back on grill grate for 1 hour.

3-2-1.

There is some other things involved. But that's the jist.
 
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ALDI is a good chain. My better half, who works in the food industry, has started going there simply because she likes the products they carry. She knows the food business quite well.
Never been in one, There is one right by the Meijer I go to. Maybe time to check it out with Meijer current trends. They are doing wierd sales of buy one get one 50% off or 40% off. Empty shelves etc.
 
Never been in one, There is one right by the Meijer I go to. Maybe time to check it out with Meijer current trends. They are doing wierd sales of buy one get one 50% off or 40% off. Empty shelves etc.
Don't go looking for name brands. It's kind of a weird place. Bring your own shopping bag(s).

They have the basics, but if you're looking for some weird spice or anything not a staple, forget it.

It is cheap, though. And their produce is not bad.

There's a place here called Lidl that's pretty similar - I think it's also German-owned.
 
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I have the same pet peeve. It’s Kroger, not Kroger’s. That would be like saying Wal-Mart’s or King Soopers’.

When someone says they’re going to Kroger’s, I always want to reply and ask if they (the Kroger’s) are new to the neighborhood.

And I do miss that all of the Kroger stores in Btown had nicknames - Krogucci, Krotucky, Kroghetto, NoKro, and not sure about west side.
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I'll take suicide via opiates and bourbon over a Medicaid nursing home
My friends and I plan on getting a compound. Everyone has their own bed/bath. Common living area kitchen , etc. We all split the cost of our live in nurse, who we all have to get along with and enjoy. Hopefully on a nice little lake. I’ll steal nurse’s pills when I’m ready to go. But we’ll have fun on the way out!
 
So many cool things to do with a family in the US, and people go to Disney every year? Help me understand
It's easy. The movies, Disney Channel, songs conspire to indoctrinate the kids. If you have little ones you can trick them for a while into believing Disney is just the store at the mall and when you go there you are going to Disney. What you see on tv is just the movies....They'll eventually learn otherwise and look at ya sideways but that's life
 
It's easy. The movies, Disney Channel, songs conspire to indoctrinate the kids. If you have little ones you can trick them for a while into believing Disney is just the store at the mall and when you go there you are going to Disney. What you see on tv is just the movies....They'll eventually learn otherwise and look at ya sideways but that's life
I have never been….and I’m never going.
You guys can have my place in line.
 
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I have never been….and I’m never going.
You guys can have my place in line.
Oh it's fantastic if you live in Fla and know when to go to time it right. Plus there's always other stuff to do. My old gf used to do the mini triathalon sprint series in Fla and Disney was one of the courses.
 
So many cool things to do with a family in the US, and people go to Disney every year? Help me understand
We don't every year. Have only been once so far and we opted for Universal this June as opposed to Disney. Universal makes it much easier (and cheaper) for a larger family to stay at a resort. We got a package for around $3000 that has a 2 room suite for 6 nights and 5 days of park admission. The suite has 3 queen beds. For a family of 6 if you try and choose a Dianey package they make you buy 2 rooms.

That being said, the Mouse is designed to get you in and keep you in their park system. If you have kids that range in ages, Disney is pretty good at having something for everyone in a small space. We've done Hilton Head. Have done the beaches in Florida. Have taken shorter trips to nature types of attractions.

Kids are the big factor though.
 
We don't every year. Have only been once so far and we opted for Universal this June as opposed to Disney. Universal makes it much easier (and cheaper) for a larger family to stay at a resort. We got a package for around $3000 that has a 2 room suite for 6 nights and 5 days of park admission. The suite has 3 queen beds. For a family of 6 if you try and choose a Dianey package they make you buy 2 rooms.

That being said, the Mouse is designed to get you in and keep you in their park system. If you have kids that range in ages, Disney is pretty good at having something for everyone in a small space. We've done Hilton Head. Have done the beaches in Florida. Have taken shorter trips to nature types of attractions.

Kids are the big factor though.
This thread is not about Disney World! Is Disney World the highlight of you peoples lives?
 
We don't every year. Have only been once so far and we opted for Universal this June as opposed to Disney. Universal makes it much easier (and cheaper) for a larger family to stay at a resort. We got a package for around $3000 that has a 2 room suite for 6 nights and 5 days of park admission. The suite has 3 queen beds. For a family of 6 if you try and choose a Dianey package they make you buy 2 rooms.

That being said, the Mouse is designed to get you in and keep you in their park system. If you have kids that range in ages, Disney is pretty good at having something for everyone in a small space. We've done Hilton Head. Have done the beaches in Florida. Have taken shorter trips to nature types of attractions.

Kids are the big factor though.
I want to go to a mountain town this summer that is walkable and just stay there the entire time. I've driven around CO enough. What's the best one for an 11 yr old @CO.Hoosier. I want to fly right in. Anywhere west really. Mountains. Cool town. No driving. Easy

I wanted to do an RV trip out west this summer and go all over but too expensive
 
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This. Rub of your choice, 225, typically 6-7 hours without a crutch. The bark stays much nicer, just takes more time. I do put a water pan in my egg though, think hit helps the smoke “stick” & may help a little with moisture. I use a mix of primarily apple with a little hickory…

Edit: I also salt them the night before, but put rub on an hour or so before to get gummy. Time varies, but watch for the meat to pull back exposing about 1” of bone on the ends. That will produce the proper bite & chew on the ribs. If you want the meat to fall off the bone eat pot roast.😉
This is pretty close to exactly what I do with ribs. 225 for about 6 hrs. I use the water pan. Can pour a beer in if you choose. I like mine dry, but you could brush sauce on the last hour and candy them up.

It’s important that you consider what type of ribs you have. I prefer spares or St Lou and they go 6-7 hrs. Babybacks are closer to 5 and will dry out.
 
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I want to go to a mountain town this summer that is walkable and just stay there the entire time. I've driven around CO enough. What's the best one for an 11 yr old @CO.Hoosier. I want to fly right in. Anywhere west really. Mountains. Cool town. No driving. Easy

I wanted to do an RV trip out west this summer and go all over but too expensive
Yeah, I want to do a West trip when our youngest gets a little older. When I was younger we did a trip out to Montana where we stopped at the badlands, Mt. Rushmore, and Little Bighorn along the way. Then we did Yellowstone. That was a cool trip where you got to see some stuff that is pretty unique.
 
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For people like us, the wildcard is end of life care. As long as we each go quickly, we're in good shape financially. But if either one of us ends up in long term nursing home care <shudder>, the survivor will end up penniless.
I just had a zoom meeting with a financial advisor yesterday and we were discussing just this. There is apparently some fairly new plan that is basically assisted living care insurance that doubles as a life insurance policy.

Basically, if you need it, the assisted living costs are covered. If you don't need it, the surviving spouse gets a life insurance payout. So the life insurance payment ends up being less after you die if you had been in a nursing home, but it lessens then likelihood of the first-to-go in the couple draining the retirement savings for the survivor.

I haven't looked into the details yet but it sounds interesting, in theory. Of course a good life insurance policy would in principle erase that debt after the fact. He said the US average is 3.5 years of end-of-life care, be that a nursing home, or lesser amounts of support like home health care with nurse visits.
 
I want to go to a mountain town this summer that is walkable and just stay there the entire time. I've driven around CO enough. What's the best one for an 11 yr old @CO.Hoosier. I want to fly right in. Anywhere west really. Mountains. Cool town. No driving. Easy

I wanted to do an RV trip out west this summer and go all over but too expensive
You can do a shuttle from DIA to Estes Park which is the town we love. There are tours you can take from Estes up into the mountains themselves. You can stay at cabins right next to one of the entrances to RMP. But without a car, either yours or the tour group, getting deep into the park would be difficult on foot. If you had bikes it would work.
 
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Yeah, I want to do a West trip when our youngest gets a little older. When I was younger we did a trip out to Montana where we stopped at the badlands, Mt. Rushmore, and Little Bighorn along the way. Then we did Yellowstone. That was a cool trip where you got to see some stuff that is pretty unique.
That's the trip I really want to do in an RV. But with gas too expensive this summer. Now just looking for an easy destination out there
 
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You can do a shuttle from DIA to Estes Park which is the town we love. There are tours you can take from Estes up into the mountains themselves. You can stay at cabins right next to one of the entrances to RMP. But without a car, either yours or the tour group, getting deep into the park would be difficult on foot. If you had bikes it would work.

I love it there too. It's gorgeous. But I want to just do a town and stay. It might be inevitable to rent a car and drive from Denver
 
I love it there too. It's gorgeous. But I want to just do a town and stay. It might be inevitable to rent a car and drive from Denver
You can fly into Telluride. We spent a couple days in Telluride. It was nice but it was our fault we didn't like it more. We were there during the week they changeover from winter fun to summer fun, they call it "mud season". There was no one there, none. I have a picture of me walking down main street at 6PM on a Saturday and not a person or car in sight. But after the mud ends, it opens back up and is a vibrant town.
 
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You can fly into Telluride. We spent a couple days in Telluride. It was nice but it was our fault we didn't like it more. We were there during the week they changeover from winter fun to summer fun, they call it "mud season". There was no one there, none. I have a picture of me walking down main street at 6PM on a Saturday and not a person or car in sight. But after the mud ends, it opens back up and is a vibrant town.
That's exactly where I'm thinking
 
I want to go to a mountain town this summer that is walkable and just stay there the entire time. I've driven around CO enough. What's the best one for an 11 yr old @CO.Hoosier. I want to fly right in. Anywhere west really. Mountains. Cool town. No driving. Easy

I wanted to do an RV trip out west this summer and go all over but too expensive
There are several good choices:

Colorado Springs: Stay at The Antlers down town. Great eateries to walk to. Pikes Peak RR and Cheyenne Mountain Zoo top drawer. Or take out a second mortgage and stay at BroadMoore. Lots of two-bit touristy stuff in Manatou Springs at Pikes Peak.

Glenwood Springs: Great Hot Springs. Walkable downtown. Mountain-Top amusement park. Public transportation to Aspen. Rafting on Colorado River.

Vail: World class restaurants. Gorgeous setting. Hiking and hanging out.

Frisco: Reasonable prices. Walkable town. Public Transportation to Copper Mountain and Breakenridge. Copper has a great Alpine Coaster. Maybe vail has one but not sure.

Estes Park. Full of tourists, lots of touristy stuff, but Rocky Mountain National Park. Crowds!

Grand Junction. A real town. Walkable. Colorado National Monument scenic drive. Can take a day trip to Moab and Arches Canyonlands N.P.

Fort Collins: Most microbrews per acre.

Boulder: Cutsey down town, scenic, but will need conversion therapy if there more than 24 hours.

When our kids were 11 and 14, we spent a week at a dude ranch. They loved it!
 
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There are several good choices:

Colorado Springs: Stay at The Antlers down town. Great eateries to walk to. Pikes Peak RR and Cheyenne Mountain Zoo top drawer. Or take out a second mortgage and stay at BroadMoore. Lots of two-bit touristy stuff in Manatou Springs at Pikes Peak.

Glenwood Springs: Great Hot Springs. Walkable downtown. Mountain-Top amusement park. Public transportation to Aspen. Rafting on Colorado River.

Vail: World class restaurants. Gorgeous setting. Hiking and hanging out.

Frisco: Reasonable prices. Walkable town. Public Transportation to Copper Mountain and Breakenridge. Copper has a great Alpine Coaster. Maybe vail has one but not sure.

Estes Park. Full of tourists, lots of touristy stuff, but Rocky Mountain National Park. Crowds!

Grand Junction. A real town. Walkable. Colorado National Monument scenic drive. Can take a day trip to Moab and Arches Canyonlands N.P.

Fort Collins: Most microbrews per acre.

Boulder: Cutsey down town, scenic, but will need conversion therapy if there more than 24 hours.

When our kids were 11 and 14, we spent a week at a dude ranch. They loved it!
What do you think of Telluride for 4 days? I really don't want to put in effort. I've done the white water rafting on the Colorado and day trips and all that. Maybe another trip but this one I just want super easy no effort and a town to wander around for 4 days and zip right back home.

Boulder we've done; colorado springs; and others. As Marv said you can fly right into Telluride.
 
What do you think of Telluride for 4 days? I really don't want to put in effort. I've done the white water rafting on the Colorado and day trips and all that. Maybe another trip but this one I just want super easy no effort and a town to wander around for 4 days and zip right back home.

Boulder we've done; colorado springs; and others. As Marv said you can fly right into Telluride.
Try Park City, it’s also close to Salt Lake City.
 
I should’ve. I got a pit boss and all was great but I’ve had to replace all the electronics in it after one year of use. All are warrantied and free but it’s a pain in the ass to do it.

I have a Z grills at my cottage and I’m happier with that one. I’d recommend Z Grills over Pit Boss for quality and over Traeger as the price is more reasonable.
 
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What do you think of Telluride for 4 days? I really don't want to put in effort. I've done the white water rafting on the Colorado and day trips and all that. Maybe another trip but this one I just want super easy no effort and a town to wander around for 4 days and zip right back home.

Boulder we've done; colorado springs; and others. As Marv said you can fly right into Telluride.
Telluride is very picturesque. Walkable. Not sure how an 11-year-old would like it. But would be easy adult hang-out place. Stay away from blue-grass festival. Beaver Creek would be a good sit and veg place too.
 
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