Kentucky offered Brooks well before the start of his senior season, they didn’t just come in and swoop him, they were there from the start. My point is that it’s July 18th, 4 months before a single player can sign. If we get into October and November with no verbals and Leal, Cross, Diarra, Loveday, and Galloway are verbaled and/or signed elsewhere then yes, it’s a panic mode. Most of these guys have timelines though and it includes taking visits to multiple schools to ensure they make the right choice. No reason to act like the sky is falling because he we don’t have a verbal commit on July 18th.
We have a lot of offers out there, but are we actually in the lead with anyone?
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Kentucky offered Brooks well before the start of his senior season, they didn’t just come in and swoop him, they were there from the start. My point is that it’s July 18th, 4 months before a single player can sign. If we get into October and November with no verbals and Leal, Cross, Diarra, Loveday, and Galloway are verbaled and/or signed elsewhere then yes, it’s a panic mode. Most of these guys have timelines though and it includes taking visits to multiple schools to ensure they make the right choice. No reason to act like the sky is falling because he we don’t have a verbal commit on July 18th.
Even if they get most of those guys, it’s hardly a transformative class. It likely sets the floor at 5th place in the Big 10, but that used to be a bad season at IU. Today, that feels more like a goal.
That’s one class dipshit. Add that class as sophomores with Phinisee as a senior, Hunter/Franklin/possibly TJD if he stays as juniors + bring in top 50 guys like Lander and/or Kauffman and Furst as freshman and you’re looking at a preseason top 10-15 team.
Moving the goalposts is a sure sign of a vacant argument on your part. And it’s full of speculation, a certain indicator of a wishful imagination.
The only thing you do is move goal posts. One class doesn’t set the bar for anything you insignificant troll. The 2020 class is going to be playing with multiple other classes genius.
Didn’t and haven’t moved it once. You keep arguing vacant and poorly conceived points of view. Blame yourself for your ignorance, not me.
You just set a hypothetical bar, 2 years out, not knowing what or who anyone in the B10 is going to sign? And I move goal posts? Got it
I did nothing of the sort. You’re flailing because you’ve lost the argument. That’s your problem, not mine.
How can I lose an argument on something that can never be proven? You said a class of Leal, Galloway, Cross, and Diarra would at best be 5th place. That’s your opinion and your opinion alone. Just because you say something doesn’t make it right. That’s something we won’t know for a few years down the road in the event it even happens. You didn’t win anything?
I didn’t say it was a fifth place class, I said it wasn’t “transformative” and wasn’t likely to lead to anything beyond a fifth place finish in the league. Reading comprehension would help you here.
There you go “likely” “transformative” yada yada. Those are your opinions and your opinions only. Doesn’t make them right in the least bit and the fact you said what you said likely means they’re going to fare much better since you don’t seem to know anything about anything.
Ah, the ultimate dodge. Can’t argue from a position of strength or intelligence, so you move the bar again. Not hard to see why you struggle with the basics here.
Dodging what? That I don’t buy your bull shit about a hypothetical class of kids that you’ve never seen play has a 5th place ceiling in the B10? Oooohhh you got me there.
Why would that class elevate IU? Over which teams would it take them? You’re flailing.
Because there’s no one class that is going to elevate IU. IU is going to elevate based on players in multiple classes. The 2009 class didn’t elevate IU until players from the 2010 and 2011 class came on board and IU isn’t the team they are in 12-13 without key guys from the 2009 class. Are you this stupid?
Again, you keep moving the bar in an effort to find traction. Now it’s multiple classes when you began with one class. I’ll take that as your white flag of surrender.
You don’t have traction to begin with. You setup a straw man based on your opinion with something that can’t be proven.
No, I discussed both the timing and quality of the upcoming recruiting class. You’ve been fruitlessly arguing against that and, when confronted with your obvious lack of logic, you’ve attempted to move the bar to gain traction and some semblance of credibility. It didn’t work and you’re flailing in frustration.
You’re delusional. If Kentucky or Kansas offered a 3 star recruit in their backyard they would commit on the spot. Galloway and Leal are waiting to see if Archie pisses down his leg again. They aren’t dumba#%es.
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Re-read what you quoted me and tell me what is wrong or delusional about it? Who has verbaled to Kentucky or Kansas as of today and who in the class of 2020 has signed a national letter of intent? I’ll wait.
Kansas wouldn't accept the commit and tell them to wait. They have the clout to do so. Unless they saw something special in that player to believe he's a game changer but that wouldn't be implied by the ranking.
Also Kansas has offered two or three 3 stars in the 20 class. All from out of state and none of them have commited.
Leal is rated as a 4 star by the top three services. Galloway is 3 on two of them and a 4 on another. .Kansas has offered at least 6 4 stars for the 20 class none from the state again, and none have commited.
Exactly. Leal is a legitimate 4* top 100 prospect getting recruited nationally. God forbid he explores his options. Galloway is closer in proximity to schools like Michigan State, Purdue, etc and is starting to gain interest from bigger schools like Kansas and Michigan.
Not really .. just giving you some information you should have had before you mentioned Kansas.
Since 2002 .. Mr Charlie>BIODTL>Jack Straw>Natural Mystic>TMP v1, TMP v2. I've had 6.
This one since Peegs left and it was unbanned..
Why? How many have you had? And what the fk does it have to do with your poor fact free debating ability?
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This is the only one. I probably would have liked Jack Straw. Mr. Charlie reminds me of the old man in the gym locker room who always wants to talk to you in the buff.
Poor fact free debating ability? Your initial response didn’t disprove anything I wrote. It was useless information if you were trying to out debate me
Not to mention the entire point of the post went over your head.
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I hope you're right but considering last year's class was in the 40-55 range depending on where you look it's highly unlikely. Especially after another NIT trip.
What kind of debater are you pal? All you do is hurl anonymous insults at fellow Hoosiers.
A lot of conjecture there. I am sick of relying on hypotheticals. I want tangible, real results. Waiting until 2021 to be competitive is not acceptable.
Galloway is actually a 4-star on 247 as well, ranked #122. The composite ranking shows him as a 3-star, but 247 also has an in-house ranking that most people miss when they look at 247.
Anyway, Leal and Galloway would be 4-stars across the board if not for Rivals giving Galloway the 3-star designation. I don't know that it's true, but I've heard several different people suggest that Galloway is expected to move up in the rankings, so it wouldn't be a surprise if they both end up 4-stars across the board.
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If Kentucky or Kansas offered a 3 star recruit in their backyard they would commit on the spot. Galloway and Leal are waiting to see if Archie pisses down his leg again. They aren’t dumba#%es.
You expressed things perfectly.
Thank you.
You expressed things perfectly.
Thank you.
I didn't bring hypothetical's into this situation, our resident idiot did. A class of Cross, Leal, Galloway, and Diarra absolutely moves the needle when you consider as freshman they are playing with an junior Phinisee, senior Durham, senior Smith, 5th year senior Brunk and Hunter/Thompson who have been in the program 3 years and not to mention TJD. Diarra can absolutely play and start from day 1 need be and guys like Cross, Galloway, and Leal all provide depth and can shoot, something this team has lacked for years. That team challenges for a B10 title, doesn't necessarily win one but the combination of talent and experience is there. Now if you add guys like Lander and then Furst or Kauffman to go along with those 4 who are now sophomores with upperclassmen in Phinisee, TJD, Hunter, Thompson, Franklin that's a team who is preseason top 10-15 nationally.
You keep moving the goalposts, but it’s all still your speculation about players you’ve never seen play. It’s why no one takes you seriously.
I’m commenting because your assertions are overwhelmingly nonsensical and result from a lack of practical knowledge.
In the Fall, please. A little hot for today. And it’s only a hoops discussion. In spite of his name calling, I don’t take it that seriously and find that kind of stuff mildly amusing.
