Don't they know how to post up? They must not know the modern NBA style offense.
was Devries wrong in not recruiting some of our current players?
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A year ago, DeVries was in a similar situation, cleaning house at West Virginia. He built a team, which lost two starters to injury (one before the season began and the other 8 games into the season), and despite those handicaps, should have made the NCAA Tournament. DeVries was able to achieve this with an NIL budget that was approximately one-quarter of the NIL/Revenue Sharing budget that he has available this year.
In addition, he will be able to afford better assistant coaches. I imagine that not only will they be better at scouting opponents, but they will also bring their connections with Portal/HS recruits. That said, I'm sure DeVries made mistakes last year (portal, new team, etc.) and I'm sure he learned a lot from them.
Alabama made more threes in one game than IU did all year
Everyone is learning and adapting on the fly, these days. He has many, many years of basketball specific knowledge and training to guide him on how to run the program once the roster is set. I think the only question mark I have, after watching the NCAA tournament... is will he be able to field a Sweet 16 caliber team, talent and skill wise, in year 1...or even by year 2? I think he probably can, but that's one of the things he has not yet proven capable of doing. Many of the teams in this years sweet 16, have been rebuilt in 1 or 2 offseason's. And the talent level on all of the teams I watched last night, was insane. BYU, maybe, lagged behind the other 7 teams...but even they have an NBA lottery pick on their team. To actually belong playing this weekend next year, he's gonna have to get an incredible haul of players over the next month. He has all the tools at his disposal... hopefully he uses them well!
I like the clean out. Should be a privilege to play at IU (and other schools too). Got the feeling some of those kids had the "you're lucky to have me" attitude. Bye. I'm confident part of staying is about $$ now too and personal market value. Not sure how that is impacting the team's retention, but the current team had no collective heart. Had some individuals who showed some heart but not as a team. Road loss to Iowa was one I've had trouble with regarding effort. Reset. Go Hoosiers.
Got to make sure we have good portal prognosticators. This yrs team was supposed to be sooooooooo talented. Not!
You could tell how “attached” Reneau was to IU, calling us University of Indiana on his farewell
Be careful, the DeVries fanboys here will be calling you a whiner and telling you to stop doubting his elite abilities.
What's the probability these kids are going to actually increase their NIL pay next year after what was on display this year? Unless payrolls increase across the board, do you think many of them increased their stock this year?
Gotta think that behind these perfunctory and disingenuous goodbyes there is probably a lot of reality sinking in regarding their true basketball value. Just hope these kids are good investors or are actually going to class. There is zero NBA future for anyone that has departed so far.
Gotta think that behind these perfunctory and disingenuous goodbyes there is probably a lot of reality sinking in regarding their true basketball value. Just hope these kids are good investors or are actually going to class. There is zero NBA future for anyone that has departed so far.
Ha ha... not doubting it...just questioning it...as its one of the things he's yet to have proven.
I spent a lot of posts arguing against the exact same question with McCollum though, so I do get the concerns.
One thing he HAS proven though, is an ability to turn programs around quickly. I think IU was in a better overall spot than either Drake or WVU were upon his hiring for each of them... so if that trend continues, it likely means he'll answer my questions here fairly quickly.
I have to believe payrolls will make another very large jump this year. Teams were not fully on board until the last year or two. But now they see what they have to do to compete. Also, many teams who worked the portal hard last year, had success this year, showing again other schools what is needed. Not us as far as the success through the portal, but other schools showed it.
I believe the price is up, way up. Eventually there might be a ceiling or at least rate of increase slowdown. but not yet.
But yeah, our guys didn't distinguish themselves. Surely a couple will get less.
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My point was Crean could of kept guys like Armon Bassett, Jordan Crawford..
If it was the era before NIL and the portal, maybe. Today, anybody that wants out knows where the door is, and most of them should go. They can and will be replaced with better players. There isn't one guard worth a damn on this roster.
Over the last 8 years and two Coaches We have gone through some of this mix and match stuff with holdover Players and Transfers. Somehow, for Us it hasn't worked out. Bad chemistry matches, poor Coaching, poor attitudes, toxic environment take your pick. At this point, I don't mind a Coach starting from scratch and bringing in guys Who are good players, good teammates, and Coachable so They improve. The two previous Coaches may have believed that as long as They brought in Players with some talent, They could Coach them up and the other things would take care of themselves.
Guy like Tucker..Yes. Even Rice.
Mgbako-No.
Renau- No.
Neither are athletic enough.
I'd love to have seen Rice, even Carlyle return.
There are those that learn in recruiting and those that think they know it all in recruiting. Woodson was the latter. He let a ton of HS recruits slip by because of laziness.
Sweet 16, Top 4 in the conference and a run at the btt title. That's what we should all expect every year. Dusty, Pope and Kelsey are the year one benchmarks. You don't get a pass for flushing your roster, not with our resources.
I'm on board with flushing it.
I'm on board with flushing it.
Not just talent, but according to Drake's AD he can pick players that we won't have to question if they are all in with the team. I have questioned why several players came to IU under Woodson. With some exceptions, I won't miss this team coming back. Too many bad habits and history of how we played in too many big losses.
We beat Tennessee in a battle in preseason but lose two games by 20+ in Atlantis. Preparation and priorities of the players came into question all year for me. That has to change.
At the time of that exhibition there had been minimal coaching. We could've made the open gym final four at that point in the season.
I think that’s a point that people miss. Time spent as an Asst D1 coach in a good program and Head Coach at lesser D1 programs is valuable and allows time to observe and to commit mistakes and to learn from them. Of course there are morons that learn nothing but if you have coaching talent and continue to learn then promising basis to head a major program.
Many IU fans tend to fall in love with guards that have shooting issues for some reason.
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