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Trump Trial - New York

What do you think is the most likely outcome in the New York trial?

  • A guilty verdict on some or all of the counts

  • An acquittal ("total exoneration!")

  • A hung jury (jury cannot reach a unanimous decision and a mistrial is declared)

  • Trump pleads guilty to something prior to a verdict being rendered

  • Other (for example, a mistrial based on something other than a hung jury)


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No. It's not nonsense. The article is based on two lengthy interviews that the author had with Trump at Mar-A-Lago. It quotes Trump throughout. The article has been widely cited and, to my knowledge, Trump has not factually disputed it.

Trump's first term ended horribly, and a second term would be utter chaos and calamity. Unlawful use of military force against civilians. A complete overhaul of the DOJ that will be able to efficiently do Trump's personal bidding. A revenge tour, with Trump going after his enemies, both Dems and Pubs. A gutted civil service with only those loyal to Trump remaining. The return of impoundment, enabling Trump to, at his sole discretion, withhold funds appropriated by Congress. Pardons for all (yes, he suggested all) of the January 6 rioters and cop-beaters. Several other features typical of an imperial presidency.

Your claim that Biden is worse than Trump is not true, not even close to being true, no matter how many times you say it.
Lmao let’s go issue by issue. Border. Energy. Prices. Crime. Left progressives vs right. Redistribution. We have two bodies of work to compare. I don’t deal in speculation. Let’s look at the numbers. Prices. Gas. Border crossings. Etc. And I read the transcript. Not the article. Enforcing the border. Booting illegals. Supporting cops. Fine by me. Compared to AOC running the country? Please. Nothing is more dangerous to this country than progressives. Nothing.
 
Lmao let’s go issue by issue. Border. Energy. Prices. Crime. Left progressives vs right. Redistribution. We have two bodies of work to compare. I don’t deal in speculation. Let’s look at the numbers. Prices. Gas. Border crossings. Etc. And I read the transcript. Not the article. Enforcing the border. Booting illegals. Supporting cops. Fine by me. Compared to AOC running the country? Please. Nothing is more dangerous to this country than progressives. Nothing.
I can't find the video on social media. But did you see on CNN where this analyst was talking about how a poll was taken and abortion was way down on the list of priorities. The CNN interviewer chided him for saying it. He pointed out that this was a poll. He was just reporting on what the poll said. She said something to the effect that polls are not always true.
 
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I can't find the video on social media. But did you see on CNN where this analyst was talking about how a poll was taken and abortion was way down on the list of priorities. The CNN interviewer chided him for saying it. He pointed out that this was a poll. He was just reporting on what the poll said. She said something to the effect that polls are not always true.
Biden’s approval rating isn’t a coincidence. Some of these posters hate trump so much they become contortionists trying to find ways to support a radical left wing agenda. An agenda that fundamentally changes america. That is the true danger
 
Biden’s approval rating isn’t a coincidence. Some of these posters hate trump so much they become contortionists trying to find ways to support a radical left wing agenda. An agenda that fundamentally changes america. That is the true danger
I've always said this, if we lose freedom we tend to not get it back. And if we do get it back there is a huge cost to it.
 
No. It's not nonsense. The article is based on two lengthy interviews that the author had with Trump at Mar-A-Lago. It quotes Trump throughout. The article has been widely cited and, to my knowledge, Trump has not factually disputed it.

Trump's first term ended horribly, and a second term would be utter chaos and calamity. Unlawful use of military force against civilians. A complete overhaul of the DOJ that will be able to efficiently do Trump's personal bidding. A revenge tour, with Trump going after his enemies, both Dems and Pubs. A gutted civil service with only those loyal to Trump remaining. The return of impoundment, enabling Trump to, at his sole discretion, withhold funds appropriated by Congress. Pardons for all (yes, he suggested all) of the January 6 rioters and cop-beaters. Several other features typical of an imperial presidency.

Your claim that Biden is worse than Trump is not true, not even close to being true, no matter how many times you say it.
You can see what happened to the border after Biden reversed trump’s policies. Return to Mexico etc. you can see what happened to cities right after defunding occurred. You can see what happens with soros prosecuutors. You can see the conditions of progressive run cities. You can see what happened to prices after all the free cheese. You can see what happened to kids after extended lockdowns. Home prices. You can see what happened to gas prices immediately after Biden attacked. I could go on and on. All supported by data. And how things improved AFTER progressives were locked out. And this doesn’t even speak to trannies at the White House and mutilating children. Seriously bowl what are you doing. Hit the reset button on your brain. I know you’re smarter than this
 
I've always said this, if we lose freedom we tend to not get it back. And if we do get it back there is a huge cost to it.
The bottom line is that posters write so and so is worse. But issue by issue they don’t back up the assertion with data. And if you debunk same they disappear. It’s their vacuous emotions and feelings that are on display. Nothing more. Let’s pray for them now
 
Hypocrite...
go back to bed

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Biden isn't king he was part of an administration and chose to get in bed with the progressives. he chose harris who was tweeting cops were murderers and she was for "reimagining" the police and reducing force. A euphemism for defunding. BLM was part of the dem convention. Fact

www.forbes.com

Reimagine The Police? Kamala Harris’s Optimistic View Of The “Defund” Debate

Should we be defunding, dismantling, reforming, or reimagining the police? Whatever we do, it's clear our system of public safety is in need of transformative change.
www.forbes.com
www.forbes.com
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...de2ce8-e0f7-11ea-b69b-64f7b0477ed4_story.html
defunding police was the heart of blm movement

thehill.com

Biden’s renewable energy rush is making gas prices skyrocket

Biden and the Democrats’ plan to slowly suffocate the oil and gas industry will make all Americans worse off.
thehill.com
thehill.com
So punish white people?


In just his first 100 days in office, Biden took 94 executive actions, including removing Title 42 and Remain in Mexico, halting border wall construction, and reinstating Catch-and-Release. the marked difference in numbers between trump and biden.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-biden-immigration-border-compared/

"Countries around the world are struggling with inflation due to pandemic disruptions, but the Biden stimulus made the US’s inflation problem more severe, to at least some extent. “I think we can say with certainty that we would have less inflation and fewer problems that we need to solve right now if the American Rescue Plan had been optimally sized,” said Wendy Edelberg, a senior fellow in economic studies at the Brookings Institution."

"A recent article published by the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco makes this point. The authors — Òscar Jordà, Celeste Liu, Fernanda Nechio, and Fabián Rivera-Reyes — compare core inflation in the US to the average of eight wealthy countries (the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Canada, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, and Finland). Before 2021, these and the US had similar inflation levels. Then the US’s shot up. The authors don’t mince words about why they think that is, writing: “Estimates suggest that fiscal support measures designed to counteract the severity of the pandemic’s economic effect may have contributed to this divergence by raising inflation about 3 percentage points by the end of 2021.”

That is a supported point by point refutation of everything you wrote. I hope i didn't spend this time in vain and that YOU spend time with information and learn from it and vote accordingly. I also hope you leave with a favorable opinion of The Dream Team. This is what we do. Serve
 
The bottom line is that posters write so and so is worse. But issue by issue they don’t back up the assertion with data. And if you debunk same they disappear. It’s their vacuous emotions and feelings that are on display. Nothing more. Let’s pray for them now
A number of the most pathologically narcissistic and destructive rulers in history could point to "good policies" and even periods of prosperity. But those regimes always ended badly. So would a second Trump term. It's inevitable.

In the history of the American presidency, he's singularly awful.
 
A number of the most pathologically narcissistic and destructive rulers in history could point to "good policies" and even periods of prosperity. But those regimes always ended badly. So would a second Trump term. It's inevitable.

In the history of the American presidency, he's singularly awful.
but not the danger progressives are. adn he doesn't touch the lives of all americans, whether you're at the gas pump, costco, or walking to your car downtown late at night. the scariness of trump exists largely between your ears - like a mythical creature
 
Read the Time article and tell me you don't find that chilling. He's a megalomaniac.
what i find chilling is murders in my neighborhood let out by progressive soros das. that's what i find chilling. the zoo closed because of gang fights. that's what i find chilling. not the speculation of what some 80 year old guy who is abiding by the court system and was already president for four years MIGHT do. a guy full of empty promises with diarrhea of the mouth. i'm not even remotely afraid of trump. and of course he's a megalomaniac. so is biden. a serial liar with the temerity to run again when few want him yet won't step aside
 
what i find chilling is murders in my neighborhood let out by progressive soros das. that's what i find chilling. the zoo closed because of gang fights. that's what i find chilling. not the speculation of what some 80 year old guy who is abiding by the court system and was already president for four years MIGHT do. a guy full of empty promises with diarrhea of the mouth. i'm not even remotely afraid of trump. and of course he's a megalomaniac. so is biden. a serial liar with the temerity to run again when few want him yet won't step aside
We lived in a once-nice but becoming-shitty neighborhood in a big city when I was a small kid. My parents got us out.

You've got resources. Why haven't you moved?

P.S. Just curious. How do you manage to respond to virtually every poster who has engaged with you, no matter the thread, day or hour of the day, within about 20 minutes?
 
We lived in a once-nice but becoming-shitty neighborhood in a big city when I was a small kid. My parents got us out.

You've got resources. Why haven't you moved?

P.S. Just curious. How do you manage to respond to virtually every poster who has engaged with you, no matter the thread, day or hour of the day, within about 20 minutes?
bc i can multitask and have a phone. takes two seconds. the big city turns shitty because of progressives. but yes i wish i could move but stuck with the kids here. i'd never move away from them. obviously
 
bc i can multitask and have a phone. takes two seconds. the big city turns shitty because of progressives. but yes i wish i could move but stuck with the kids here. i'd never move away from them. obviously
Is your ex-"stoker" and/or ex-wife living in a neighborhood with gun violence?
 
Is your ex-"stoker" and/or ex-wife living in a neighborhood with gun violence?
suburbs. crime all over and while we aren't in the city all of the events are in the city - museums, zoo, stadiums, etc. our burbs are five minutes from the city. are you in a rural area?
 
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but not the danger progressives are. adn he doesn't touch the lives of all americans, whether you're at the gas pump, costco, or walking to your car downtown late at night. the scariness of trump exists largely between your ears - like a mythical creature

Read the Time article and tell me you don't find that chilling. He's a megalomaniac.
Get ready to bow down b!tches!

 
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Lmao let’s go issue by issue. Border. Energy. Prices. Crime. Left progressives vs right. Redistribution. We have two bodies of work to compare. I don’t deal in speculation. Let’s look at the numbers. Prices. Gas. Border crossings. Etc. And I read the transcript. Not the article. Enforcing the border. Booting illegals. Supporting cops. Fine by me. Compared to AOC running the country? Please. Nothing is more dangerous to this country than progressives. Nothing.
Not one thing in your list overrides the fact that trump tried to stay in power after he knowingly lost. Is Biden awful, sure, but Trump's two options should be incarceration or execution. I don't care if I never have another Starbucks or you never see another crab leg if flushing down the entire electoral foundation is the price.
 
Not one thing in your list overrides the fact that trump tried to stay in power after he knowingly lost. Is Biden awful, sure, but Trump's two options should be incarceration or execution. I don't care if I never have another Starbucks or you never see another crab leg if flushing down the entire electoral foundation is the price.
i disagree with you. and i think your take is exaggerated. he didn't assemble an arsenal of weapons etc and he filed lawsuits etc to challenge the election. and i realize to a certain degree i'm glossing over some of it. that being said and as i have belabored i think nothing compares to the health of this country like progressives. but if you think otherwise re trump i personally disagree but am totally okay with it and respect your take. what annoys the hell out of me are the posters who feel like you but instead of saying that try to prop up biden like he's been a good president etc. I won’t tolerate it. I can’t tolerate it!
 
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Not one thing in your list overrides the fact that trump tried to stay in power after he knowingly lost. Is Biden awful, sure, but Trump's two options should be incarceration or execution. I don't care if I never have another Starbucks or you never see another crab leg if flushing down the entire electoral foundation is the price.
If Trump wins, how would that “flush down the entire electoral foundation?”
 
The attempted flush was 2020. The fact that he's allowed to run in 2024 and possibly win is the completion of that flush. The flush analogy fails because he'd be a treasonous turd floating to the top.
Could you please post this every day for the next six months.
 
The attempted flush was 2020. The fact that he's allowed to run in 2024 and possibly win is the completion of that flush. The flush analogy fails because he'd be a treasonous turd floating to the top.
So his running this year is the completion of the flushing of our electoral foundations.

So we don’t have a democracy anymore?
 
Get ready to bow down b!tches!

Bwaaahahahaha OMG thanks for that. The levels of TDS the msm has created are baffling. It's like its followers are putty in their palm.

I was just thinking after watching all these college riots and kids with masks. If the msm ever even hinted that there was a germ, bacteria, virus or whatever and there are a couple cases already here. There would be massive masks the next day. That's how absolutely whacked TV followers have become. LOLOL. Silly Putty
 
So his running this year is the completion of the flushing of our electoral foundations.

So we don’t have a democracy anymore?
I never said we won't have a democracy. What we'll have is a pail imitation of one. If you can openly commit a treasonous act and then turn around and run for office something is seriously broken. And worse are the people who have such little concern for this country they would vote that malignancy back into office.
 
So his running this year is the completion of the flushing of our electoral foundations.

So we don’t have a democracy anymore?

Do you think Trump has respected our democracy or shit on it?

Your defense of Trump is weak.
 
What, specifically, is chilling about this article?

deporting 5% of our labor force is a chilling thought, ideology aside. Another "hot" trade war with China would also suck mightily. Harassing our international partners to pony up more to help fund a US populist worldview and agenda is also scary shit. the rest is pretty predictable ho-hum. so maybe 5/10 on the chilling scale? still some pretty spooky stuff there.

don't get me wrong, the Biden gives me the heebie jeebies too. his budget, student loan fiasco, constant virtue signaling by his admin. puke. like trump, his policies are a mixed bag, but it's just too damn painful to watch him speak. agonizing.
 
deporting 5% of our labor force is a chilling thought, ideology aside. Another "hot" trade war with China would also suck mightily. Harassing our international partners to pony up more to help fund a US populist worldview and agenda is also scary shit. the rest is pretty predictable ho-hum. so maybe 5/10 on the chilling scale? still some pretty spooky stuff there.

don't get me wrong, the Biden gives me the heebie jeebies too. his budget, student loan fiasco, constant virtue signaling by his admin. puke. like trump, his policies are a mixed bag, but it's just too damn painful to watch him speak. agonizing.
Seemed like a lot of fear porn by the author compared to Trumps actual words.

Hell, he swore he wouldn’t seek a 3rd term and would leave peacefully after his second term if he were to be elected, which I didn’t know he had actually said. I always wondered why he didn’t stress that in the lead up to the 2024 election, considering how his last term ended.
 
Seemed like a lot of fear porn by the author compared to Trumps actual words.

Hell, he swore he wouldn’t seek a 3rd term and would leave peacefully after his second term if he were to be elected, which I didn’t know he had actually said. I always wondered why he didn’t stress that in the lead up to the 2024 election, considering how his last term ended.

he's handcuffed himself there. he can't tell his hardcore base stuff like that. but I'd love to be in the room as he and his strategists try to walk the line.
 
I never said we won't have a democracy. What we'll have is a pail imitation of one. If you can openly commit a treasonous act and then turn around and run for office something is seriously broken. And worse are the people who have such little concern for this country they would vote that malignancy back into office.
Ok. But there is no “if.” Trump is already being allowed to run for President, right? So it’s the completion; it’s over according to your posts.

I know I’m analyzing your words very closely, but you’re making some big claims here. It makes sense to figure out exactly what you think is going to happen and why.

I’ll say this: I think our “democracy” whatever that is, has changed throughout our nation’s history, despite the Constitution. It is evolving at an ever accelerating pace, I feel like, due to changes in tech, concentration of wealth, and the evolving world order. It feels like we are in a “moment” when many things could happen. But of those things, DJT becoming a dictator ain’t one of ‘em.
 

Ok. But there is no “if.” Trump is already being allowed to run for President, right? So it’s the completion; it’s over according to your posts.

I know I’m analyzing your words very closely, but you’re making some big claims here. It makes sense to figure out exactly what you think is going to happen and why.

I’ll say this: I think our “democracy” whatever that is, has changed throughout our nation’s history, despite the Constitution. It is evolving at an ever accelerating pace, I feel like, due to changes in tech, concentration of wealth, and the evolving world order. It feels like we are in a “moment” when many things could happen. But of those things, DJT becoming a dictator ain’t one of ‘em.
These aren't legal briefs being submitted. It's a message board. People offer opinions, and his was stated clearly. I've noticed this recent trend where you're parsing words of anti-Trump posters, putting posts under intense scrutiny and treating them as though they're assignments to be graded or dissertations to be defended. In fact, you seem to recognize this yourself, e.g. "I know I'm analyzing your words very closely." Yes, too closely. It's annoying.
 
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I started reading this and I initially thought the writer was going to provide information without his opinion

I got as far as “I was not here to ask about the election or the disgrace that followed”

I stopped reading.
 
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