The ultimate issue is the other crime. The legal expense correctly recorded as a legal expense is a dead misdemeanor. A conviction will be easily overturned. You know that.
Trump Trial - New York
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You’re frantically posting like a very desperate minion. Doesn’t your slavish devotion to your Lord Trump make you feel at least a little embarrassed. Hell, it’s creepy just to see it.
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He has become a prisoner of his own opinion. Even staring at complete abject failure, there must be a way out other than to admit you are wrong....
'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.'
I don’t know if you realize this or not, but you can find pretty much anyone saying anything on twiiter/X.
If you’re going to quote a tweet/X-cretion, you probably want to make sure that person has legit bonafides. Otherwise, you run the risk of getting made fun of for falling for crap posted by people who actually call themselves Catturd.
Unless you quote a liberal source the source is worthless. The liberal source can be an outrageous idiot but all liberal sources are A okay.
I’ve brought this up before and no one ever addresses it.
The existence of the Steele dossier wasn’t public knowledge before the 2016 election. Crossfire hurricane was however.
Although, to be fair, New York isn’t claiming Trump actually affected the election with his Daniels payment, only that he INTENDED to. Seems like that same argument could have been made against Hilary, but it wasn’t for some reason.
Also worth noting that DOJ and the FEC looked at both Hilaries funding of the Steele dossier and Trumps payment to Stormy Daniels and decided neither was criminally actionable. They took no action against Trump and fined Hilary.
It took Braggs keen eye for justice to creatively revive this case after he passed on it once and bring it just in time for the run up to the election. Which also happened coincidentally after a top Biden administration official left his job to take one up in Braggs office.
This has been one giant attempt at election interference and it’s working. All they need is a conviction on ONE count for Joe to be able to campaign on Trump being a convicted felon. And they’ll get it.
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Wonder if she knew about the millions in hush money paid out to victims of abuse by her church? Surely she had at least heard whispers…
If you dig hard enough you will find skeletons in everyone’s closet.
It surprises me that the outcome of this trial would make a difference to anyone. If someone asked me do you think trump would direct someone to conceal hush money payments so that his wife wouldn’t find out? Yes. So the public wouldn’t? Yes. So his campaign wouldn’t be hindered? Yes.
It’s trump. I mean by now we all should know who he is
That’s not true, Stoll. There are good sources with liberal, conservative or neutral writers, and there are bad sources from the same. 95 percent of dbm’s sources are bad. Laughably bad. They are generally so bad that anyone with a room temperature IQ would know they are bad at first read. There is no reason to dismiss everything that comes from an ostensibly conservative or liberal source unless you’re a weak minded person. It’s not hard to look into the facts to confirm or refute the accuracy. I’m not weak minded and I don’t think you are.
Anyone who ever cheated on a wife. A girlfriend. Paid cash so the credit card bill didn’t show where you were
dbm you should know by now...If it's not what the tds damaged seals thinks is correct, ITS WRONG. Their opinion is the only opinion that matters. They are "right" (cough cough cough) about everything. This entire thing is already backfiring horribly. Most people with brains can see right through it and are starting to snap out off it. Look at some of the latest support coming from places you would not think. Jeezuz even some msm channels, (MSM channels) are doing a wtf is happening here. You're posting in an infestation of rampant TDS, which is hilariously drooling over all of this, and the incompetence is glaring. The worse it gets the more the light switch gets turned on. Unfortunately there are severe cases here which are terminal. LOL. Relax man.
I think you are right. The Trump base will never change. A conviction here is meaningless on a political level. Nobody politically cared that he was found liable for sexual assault or defamation; nobody politically cared about the NYC fraud civil suit judgment.
Go back further--nobody cared about his violations of the FHA back in the 70s; the antitrust lawsuit in the 80s; the SEC action of misleading statements in his earnings release; the lobbying violations; the Trump University lawsuits for misrepresentation; the late 90s sex harassment suits. He is Teflon.
30 years ago, he wouldn't have even sniffed the primaries.
12 straight years of dogshit presidential candidates from both parties....
dbm you should know by now...If it's not what the tds damaged seals thinks is correct, ITS WRONG. Their opinion is the only opinion that matters. They are "right" (cough cough cough) about everything. This entire thing is already backfiring horribly. Most people with brains can see right through it and are starting to snap out off it. Look at some of the latest support coming from places you would not think. Jeezuz even some msm channels, (MSM channels) are doing a wtf is happening here. You're posting in an infestation of rampant TDS, which is hilariously drooling over all of this, and the incompetence is glaring. The worse it gets the more the light switch gets turned on. Unfortunately there are severe cases here which are terminal. LOL. Relax man.
Man you really are a one trick pony aren't you? Just throw up on the screen, change of few words, add some acronyms, maybe say "commie, commie, commie" a few times, maybe call someone gay, link YouTube videos, and whammo--another stellar performance.
There's no doubt in my mind that you have Jim Marrs on speed dial....
To be clear, I’m not saying New York doesn’t have the right to bring this case. They do. And if they can get a conviction, which they will on at least SOME of the counts if not all, then more power to them.
Just don’t gaslight everyone by claiming this isn’t 1000 percent politically motivated. It clearly is.
Its unamerican and no different from what they claim Trump is.
It’s a politically motivated trial involving a lifelong bad actor
Who also happens to be a better option for president than the raging dumpster fire we have now.
I don't get why you say that. He posts a wide variety, CNN, Fox and others. I rarely see you post a "source" just your opinion. If its someones opinion its one thing, everyone has an opinion. If its a well sourced piece or a video from a news correspondent its right in front of you either watch, read it, or don't, BUT take it for what its worth and move on. Unfortunately the msm is so full of sh!t nobody believes anything anymore so we laugh and call names, because if it doesn't agree with "me" you're full of shit (just pointing out the way this board goes). According to many here, including me, we all have sources in which we believe more than others and thats where the arguing starts. DBM has has his good and bad we all do.
Nobody has ever changed anyones mind on this board, therefore we all chase our tails here all day long. Its stupid. The problem is the mom and dad mods. They are the worst. LOL
Just shut the hell up little brother before I nerf dart you in the eyeball.
True, but we also get daily updates on Murts cougar hunts and baby mama drama. And we get to watch the mods fight.
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When quoting a source that has had many of it's claims labeled as false from fact checkers, it kind of makes it hard to give the benefit of the doubt on the next claim without other sources corroborating the story.
Kind of like if the prosecution only had Cohen as a witness and nothing else to back him up. Probably the reason they made sure to have a lot more than just Cohen saying so.
And dbm's sources (mostly twitter apparently) are batting a ridiculously low percentage when it comes to being factual.
That's a stretch to suggest the Catholic Church's issues were skeletons in Mother Teresa's closet. She was Catholic, but she wasn't a leader at the Vatican or the USCCB.
You have no right to speak. None, you need drop kicked in your (choose a body part and use female genitalia). Fact checkers? Ohhh you mean those paid idiots that parrot left furry food for furries like you. Go stand in the corner kevin, ken, klaus whatever your pronoun is today.
He's already, in two posts in 24 hours using twitter (the guy driving the car with the suspended license, the cali progressive rep that woke up) provided more value to this board than you ever can hope to. Enlighten us with your trump hate this morning and laugh about the latest the girl getting raped is about all you're good for.
So McCarthy, Wisenberg, and a former SCOTUS clerk don't know what they're talking about and aren't reputable? Watch the first 14 minutes here and tell me how this trial is remotely legitimate. You can't.
It's not meaningless; in fact, it's likely the only shot demented Joe has at winning.
His brain (ie.. his handlers) knows that he only has to change 2 to 3% of the vote to when the election. So it matters little that 97-98% of the voters know this is all horseshit. There is very little that the sick bastard won't do to stay in power.
Well, the irony of your comment certainly isn't lost on me... the guy you are supporting is a fraud, a sexual assault perpetrator, a narcissist, etc, etc, who talks a far better game than he plays. Now this:
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/just...ould-america-buy-a-n-winning-and-its-on-tape/
As for the "sick bastard" who will do anything to stay in power--I agree--you've just identified Donald Trump. He proved that for over a year.
Conviction here likely helps Trump more than it hurts him, politically speaking. It will strengthen the "martyr" part of his BS persona he's forcing down everyone's throats.
Nobody (well there is this board LOLOL) disagrees with you. Let the authoritative democrats and neocons finish their illogical tirade. This is good for the American people.
@Mark Milton said "30 years ago, he wouldn't have even sniffed the primaries".
He's right 30 years ago we didn't need him. The guy (Trump) came from the last 30 years of politics. One of the most corrupt, inept, divisive time periods in years. Well we turned democrat policies loose here in this country and look what happened. It's on its head. The guy was created from the ashes. He always said he would run only if he had to.
What a great group. It's like watching Thelma and Louis go on a binge and drive the car over the cliff. 251 military conflicts right here. Thanks A$$holes.
No, if what we have is a dumpster fire, what you want to replace it with is a burning, overflowing port-a-potty fire.
First Gulf War was actually a good conflict. That's what we should do in the Middle East. Clearly defined goal, kick ass, go home.Nobody (well there is this board LOLOL) disagrees with you. Let the authoritative democrats and neocons finish their illogical tirade. This is good for the American people.
@Mark Milton said "30 years ago, he wouldn't have even sniffed the primaries".
He's right 30 years ago we didn't need him. The guy (Trump) came from the last 30 years of politics. One of the most corrupt, inept, divisive time periods in years. Well we turned democrat policies loose here in this country and look what happened. It's on its head. The guy was created from the ashes. He always said he would run only if he had to.
What a great group. It's like watching Thelma and Louis go on a binge and drive the car over the cliff. 251 military conflicts right here. Thanks A$$holes.
If the Deep State wanted to depose Saddam they should have done it then.
Kind of interesting though that we have parallels to 2016. Hillary was accused of a dozen different wrong-doings (Benghazi, Deleted Emails, having people killed who were investigating, etc.) and most of those items were non-actionable, but it didn't stop Trump from declaring at every rally about how she was corrupt and would be prosecuted when he got into office.
Hillary just seems to have been better at hiding / deleting / organizing things to the point where there was insufficient evidence to prosecute. Regardless of whether she was guilty or not though, Trump tapped into that uncertainty and used it to paint a narrative that ultimately made him victorious.
At the end of the day though, it is all political theater.
You might believe that the results of this trial will ultimately not matter, but you need to bear in mind that the people here on this board are probably much more in-tune with the political landscape. For every person as-invested in politics that you can find here and amongst your friends, there's probably 3x that who just don't give a darn. They are the ones that, unfortunately, decide elections. There's probably a good 5% of actual voters who don't know / care who they are going to vote for up until about a week before the election. And when the margins in some states are going to be 1%, getting that 5% to go one way or the other is crucial. Having a narrative that one candidate is a law breaker is a powerful tool. It's been used by Trump and Biden is using it himself now that the tables have flipped to the other side.
I am not a lawyer or legal scholar but enough people who do have experience are flagging odd behavior where this doesn't appear to be on the up and up....
it's all odd. grounds for potential appeal if preserved (prejudicial etc.). conviction is obviously the objective politically, optics - wise, as sentencing presumably won't be for months nad if he got prison time that would be stayed on appeal. so nothing will happen to him before the election
Don't the attorneys for both sides submit proposed instructions for approval/discussion? I don't do criminal, but I would assume that would be the case.
Yeah and if there are issues you have to make sure objections etc are timely/properly preserved etc. instructions are common basis for appeal in crim
