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Trump Trial - New York

What do you think is the most likely outcome in the New York trial?

  • A guilty verdict on some or all of the counts

  • An acquittal ("total exoneration!")

  • A hung jury (jury cannot reach a unanimous decision and a mistrial is declared)

  • Trump pleads guilty to something prior to a verdict being rendered

  • Other (for example, a mistrial based on something other than a hung jury)


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Barron just graduated HS.



What a proud papa! Look at how livid Melania is, clearly hates Donald.

Barron seems like a wonderful young man. Why you must tear down this loving family speaks to a true darkness within you. Something sick and insidious.
This loving family….lol. And if you haven’t seen a million times Melania swatting Trump’s hands away, giving him disgusting looks, etc, then you are blind. Hey , he’s a stellar dad….he went to graduation. Never mind he was banging a porn star when Mom had just delivered. Truly a loving family…. Sick, dark, and insidious is anyone who thinks Trump is anything besides, well, sick dark and insidious. You described him perfectly. Well done, Farva.
 
What a total clownshow.

How is that any more of a clown show than the people DOnny has dragged down there to pretend they support him? You know, since he can’t convince that loving family of his to spend any time there. Think maybe Eric spent a day or two. Where the adoring wife?. She can’t even pretend to support him? Oh and wait….I thought DOnnie was vowing to testify. What happened there? Lying again. Like we all knew he was. Well, everyone except for you. You probably believed him.
 
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The idea that the Biden campaign thought putting out the call to meet across the street from the courthouse to hear from special guests would go well is dumb. Anyone with half a brain would know that there would be a mob of MAGA people ready to go off on them as a result of them advertising it.
A mob….lol. There hasn’t been a mob there the entire time. NYC? Yeah you aren’t getting a mob of Cult MAGA there. A couple dozen? Maybe if Trump paid them….
 
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I’m not claiming to know their political preference so chill the hell out. I can infer from NYT and WSJ that they are more likely than not Democrats as those are both left wing publications (yes other than the Op-Ed section WSJ is left wing). But there’s no way to know for sure.
WSJ is left wing? You cannot be serious.
 
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WSJ is left wing? You cannot be serious.
OMG LMAO. Like a drive by shooting you show up and try and KILL every positive Trump post.

A buddy of mine got called a nazi this weekend because he supported Trump. We were all LMAO at the thought of the guy that called him that sitting in wheelchair. I told him they cannot help it, the msm has destroyed half this country as evidenced from the Tucker/Sachs interview. SAD
 
OMG LMAO. Like a drive by shooting you show up and try and KILL every positive Trump post.

A buddy of mine got called a nazi this weekend because he supported Trump. We were all LMAO at the thought of the guy that called him that sitting in wheelchair. I told him they cannot help it, the msm has destroyed half this country as evidenced from the Tucker/Sachs interview. SAD
How is the trial thread a positive Trump post? Lol. You might as well know what everyone with a half a mind thinks of people who support Trump. Maybe he’s not a Nazi, but Nazis support the same guy he does.
 
A mob….lol. There hasn’t been a mob there the entire time. NYC? Yeah you aren’t getting a mob of Cult MAGA there. A couple dozen? Maybe if Trump paid them….
A crowd, a throng, a flock, a swarm, a mostly peaceful gathering? Pick your word for whatever that was in the video, wildly heckling Deniro from behind the barriers.
 
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A buddy of mine got called a nazi this weekend because he supported Trump. We were all LMAO at the thought of the guy that called him that sitting in wheelchair.
So your buddy was laughing your ass off?

Weird ...
 
So what? Maybe you’ve heard of Clarence Thomas or Alito? Anyone with half a brain wants to keep Trump as far away from the presidency as possible. And how does that make him a Marxist again? And what does being from another country have to do with anything at all?
I agree, you have half a brain.
 
How is that any more of a clown show than the people DOnny has dragged down there to pretend they support him? You know, since he can’t convince that loving family of his to spend any time there. Think maybe Eric spent a day or two. Where the adoring wife?. She can’t even pretend to support him? Oh and wait….I thought DOnnie was vowing to testify. What happened there? Lying again. Like we all knew he was. Well, everyone except for you. You probably believed him.
Eric, Don, and Tiffany were all there yesterday. I doubt Ivanka is ever going back to that dump ever again.
 
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Eric, Don, and Tiffany were all there yesterday. I doubt Ivanka is ever going back to that dump ever again.
Yea because it is new York that she is avoiding lmao.

Have any pics of her attending his case in Florida?
 
This will get the conspiracy theorists going. Robert De Niro is now raising money for Biden-Harris:

It’s Robert De Niro.

I still can’t believe Donald Trump got elected president. Four years of sucking up to tyrants, supporting racists, ending Roe v. Wade, lying about the election when he lost, and calling for insurrection to stop the peaceful transfer of power.

Thank God Joe Biden defeated him and restored decency, compassion, and honest, intelligent leadership to the presidency.

Now Trump is trying to claw his way back. Frankly, it scares the hell out of me. I have said before that Donald Trump is a monster. And just imagine how dangerous it will be if he becomes President again. It’s going to take all of us to make sure Donald Trump never returns to the White House, so I’m personally asking:

Will you please chip in $25 to the Biden-Harris reelection campaign to help ensure Donald Trump never steps foot in the White House again?
 
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This will get the conspiracy theorists going. Robert De Niro is now raising money for Biden-Harris:

It’s Robert De Niro.

I still can’t believe Donald Trump got elected president. Four years of sucking up to tyrants, supporting racists, ending Roe v. Wade, lying about the election when he lost, and calling for insurrection to stop the peaceful transfer of power.

Thank God Joe Biden defeated him and restored decency, compassion, and honest, intelligent leadership to the presidency.

Now Trump is trying to claw his way back. Frankly, it scares the hell out of me. I have said before that Donald Trump is a monster. And just imagine how dangerous it will be if he becomes President again. It’s going to take all of us to make sure Donald Trump never returns to the White House, so I’m personally asking:


Will you please chip in $25 to the Biden-Harris reelection campaign to help ensure Donald Trump never steps foot in the White House again?
Hopefully it helps. I would be blasting out Project 2025 to anyone on the fence. Can't imagine very many independents being comfortable with that. - https://www.project2025.org/
 
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Fitton's a fool but Turley should know better. I guess he wants to do everything he can to maintain his "paid contributor" role on Fox News.

Their posts are misleading. Here's the reality. In order to find Trump guilty of felony falsification of business documents, the jury must unanimously find that Trump falsified the documents in order to commit or conceal a separate crime. The jurors don't have to agree as to what the separate crime (i.e. the predicate crime) was. The three possible predicate crimes are a tax law violation and a violation of state or federal election law.

My understanding is that this issue was briefed, argued and ruled on by Judge Merchan several days ago. The jury's ability to disagree as to the predicate crime is consistent with NY law.
 
Barron just graduated HS.



What a proud papa! Look at how livid Melania is, clearly hates Donald.

Barron seems like a wonderful young man. Why you must tear down this loving family speaks to a true darkness within you. Something sick and insidious.
Trump being proud of Barron is probably genuine. I have no reason to think otherwise.

That said, it doesn’t take too much cynicism to suspect/know that photo was planned and staged. Dude is on trial for covering up a hush money payment to a porn star who went on record to say he was a bad lay. I’d try to reframe the narrative with a little family moment too.
 
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Fitton's a fool but Turley should know better. I guess he wants to do everything he can to maintain his "paid contributor" role on Fox News.

Their posts are misleading. Here's the reality. In order to find Trump guilty of felony falsification of business documents, the jury must unanimously find that Trump falsified the documents in order to commit or conceal a separate crime. The jurors don't have to agree as to what the separate crime (i.e. the predicate crime) was. The three possible predicate crimes are a tax law violation and a violation of state or federal election law.

My understanding is that this issue was briefed, argued and ruled on by Judge Merchan several days ago. The jury's ability to disagree as to the predicate crime is consistent with NY law.
@dbmhoosier this is a good example of why we dismiss your Twitter sources. They are offering just patently false legal opinions based on patently misleading facts.
 
Fitton's a fool but Turley should know better. I guess he wants to do everything he can to maintain his "paid contributor" role on Fox News.

Their posts are misleading. Here's the reality. In order to find Trump guilty of felony falsification of business documents, the jury must unanimously find that Trump falsified the documents in order to commit or conceal a separate crime. The jurors don't have to agree as to what the separate crime (i.e. the predicate crime) was. The three possible predicate crimes are a tax law violation and a violation of state or federal election law.

My understanding is that this issue was briefed, argued and ruled on by Judge Merchan several days ago. The jury's ability to disagree as to the predicate crime is consistent with NY law.
You're 100% wrong. That is completely illegal and unconstitutional. I doubt even any of the liberal lawyers on here would agree. Every element has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
Trump a short while ago: "Mother Teresa couldn't beat these charges." Kind of doubtful that Mother Teresa would have ever been in a position where she would have had to defend herself against the charges.

He's such a moronic douche.

I'm waiting for some public figure to say "I knew Mother Teresa. I witnessed her unselfish, lifelong service to the sick and the poor. Mother Teresa was a friend of mine. Trump, you're no Mother Teresa."
 
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This will get the conspiracy theorists going. Robert De Niro is now raising money for Biden-Harris:

It’s Robert De Niro.

I still can’t believe Donald Trump got elected president. Four years of sucking up to tyrants, supporting racists, ending Roe v. Wade, lying about the election when he lost, and calling for insurrection to stop the peaceful transfer of power.

Thank God Joe Biden defeated him and restored decency, compassion, and honest, intelligent leadership to the presidency.

Now Trump is trying to claw his way back. Frankly, it scares the hell out of me. I have said before that Donald Trump is a monster. And just imagine how dangerous it will be if he becomes President again. It’s going to take all of us to make sure Donald Trump never returns to the White House, so I’m personally asking:


Will you please chip in $25 to the Biden-Harris reelection campaign to help ensure Donald Trump never steps foot in the White House again?
After that embarrassing spectacle yesterday, they should probably shelve Bobby back in the home.
 
You're 100% wrong. That is completely illegal and unconstitutional. I doubt even any of the liberal lawyers on here would agree. Every element has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Bullshit. You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Every element has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
"made or caused a false entry in the business records of an enterprise," "with an intent to defraud that included an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof."

the stat doesn't specify the other crime so that's it dbm. could be any crime and he's cooked - as long as he had the intent to commit another crime

so you have to follow the statute
 
You're 100% wrong. That is completely illegal and unconstitutional. I doubt even any of the liberal lawyers on here would agree. Every element has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
No, each element can be proven separately.

He can be found guilty on 1 or more of the counts and not guilty on the others.
 
Unfortunately no James.

Why do you insist in doubling down on stupid? The Twitter Twits are repeating other Twitter Twits and getting it more wrong as they go along. I provided a link that quoted what the Judge actually said. You can see for yourself.

95 percent of what you "know" is wrong because you rely on the twits to tweet their misinformation into your head.
 
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"made or caused a false entry in the business records of an enterprise," "with an intent to defraud that included an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof."

the stat doesn't specify the other crime so that's it dbm. could be any crime and he's cooked - as long as he had the intent to commit another crime

so you have to follow the statute
"that included an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof."

No such thing has ever been proven. Not even remotely. But you know that.
 
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Trump a short while ago: "Mother Teresa couldn't beat these charges." Kind of doubtful that Mother Teresa would have ever been in a position where she would have had to defend herself against the charges.

He's such a moronic douche.

I'm waiting for some public figure to say "I knew Mother Teresa. I witnessed her unselfish, lifelong service to the sick and the poor. Mother Teresa was a friend of mine. Trump, you're no Mother Teresa."
I wish someone would point out the idiocy of suggesting that Mother Teresa - a literal saint - could have been charged with covering up a hush money payment to a porn star.
 
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"that included an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof."

No such thing has ever been proven. Not even remotely. But you know that.
i dont know that. i have no idea. i haven't seen any of hte evidence or listened to any of hte testimony. i'm just explaining the unanimity matter based on the construction of the statutes
 
I wish someone would point out the idiocy of suggesting that Mother Teresa - a literal saint - could have been charged with covering up a hush money payment to a porn star.
The point is that hush money payments are not illegal and the entire point of making the payment is to keep the act private. Otherwise no one would ever make one.
 
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