How many Democrats spoke at the RNC?
Pretty telling given how many Republicans spoke at the DNC and are outspoken against Trump.
Pretty telling given how many Republicans spoke at the DNC and are outspoken against Trump.
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Can you link that- the claim he was attacked by someone with a firearm? Not exactly what video or eyewitness accounts say. I mean you know the video that shows him running is after he's already shot and killed the first guy, right?
I am not shocked at your defense of Democrat hypocrisy.
Where would you rather Trump be, on the links or in the Oval Office?This is on the scale of Trump hitting the links during the Pandemic. Both are bad looks but I’m not going to bunch up my shorts over either one.
That doesn't justify a self-defense defense to the fatal shootings of others.Why Kyle Rittenhouse, Filmed Fleeing Attackers, Was Charged With Murder
Conservatives have argued that the 17-year-old was acting in self-defense while shooting at two protesters in Kenosha.www.newsweek.com
The 3rd guy who was shot (in the arm) was carrying, and had drawn a handgun.
This is where Jet claims to hate T.rump.hypocritical?
How about impeaching Clinton for adultery once and then electing Trump who has committed adultery multiple times.
Look to the far right for the biggest hypocrites.
It's hard to discern the actual facts of the case, or even a straight news story. I defer to you because IANAL. However, I would not think the depiction or the videos I linked support a charge of premeditated murder.That doesn't justify a self-defense defense to the fatal shootings of others.
My own party....lol. I said the far left, not Democrats. Pay attention dummy. And you can stick the Bible right up your ass...Matthew 7:5: "First, remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye."
I don't know why y'all expect Democrats to be perfect and don't expect anything of your own party.
What, you don't have a party? You're not a Republican?My own party....lol. I said the far left, not Democrats. Pay attention dummy. And you can stick the Bible right up your ass...
Why Kyle Rittenhouse, Filmed Fleeing Attackers, Was Charged With Murder
Conservatives have argued that the 17-year-old was acting in self-defense while shooting at two protesters in Kenosha.www.newsweek.com
The 3rd guy who was shot (in the arm) was carrying, and had drawn a handgun.
I don't know enough facts pertaining to the events leading up to where first person he's accused of shooting is shot. The deceased was filmed daring those guys to shoot. I can only consider Kyle's story of self-defense in that circumstance.I'm not sure this video and the accompanying statements from both a WAPO reporter as well as a Daily Caller reporter who was interviewing him at the time back up the claim of self defense...
And if he was being attacked by someone armed, then why after he shoots and kills the 2nd man (Huber) does he calmly shoulder his weapon and walk towards police? Wouldn't he still be in danger if he was being threatened by some mysterious gunman in the shadows?
He kills Rosenbaum (who was unarmed) and then is chased by others including Grosskreutz, who you describe as having "drawn" his weapon. So when he killed Rosenbaum, who exactly was threatening him?
What element of "self-defense" applies here? Because no one tried to claim that the guy who killed the other guy in Portland was exercising self-defense, even though the man he killed was also armed? But yet a guy who shoots and kills 2 unarmed men is claiming "self-defense"?
"It isn't clear what happened right before Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum dead in a parking lot. Police charging documents say Rosenbaum appeared to be unarmed but threw a plastic bag toward Rittenhouse. A Daily Caller reporter who was interviewing Rittenhouse told police he thought Rosenbaum was reaching for Rittenhouse's AR-15. A gunshot can be heard somewhere in the vicinity before Rittenhouse opens fire.
Rittenhouse then called someone and said, "I just killed somebody." It was clear "he knew he messed up," a protester named Jeremiah told the Journal Sentinel. "He panicked. Even his people knew what he did was wrong. They were all shouting at him, 'What are you doing?'"
At that point, several people started chasing Rittenhouse. He tripped and fell before shooting and missing a protester who jumped over him. Huber tried to grab his gun, hitting him with his skateboard. Rittenhouse shot him in the chest, then rose to a sitting position and shot 26-year-old paramedic Gaige Grosskreutz — who was holding a handgun but didn't appear to point it at Rittenhouse — in the arm. Rittenhouse got up, made sure the protesters weren't following him, and walked past the police with his hands up."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/witnesses-police-reporters-piece-together-071000881.html
In reading that, my thought is a distant gunshot (or maybe fireworks) spooked him prior to him shooting Rosenbaum. He even made a call, so the idea of imminent threat seems ludicrous. We know Rosenbaum wasn't armed, so why did Rittenhouse feel threatened enough to kill someone? Seems to me if the people "chasing him" were armed, they would have shot him? If that was their goal?
The people chasing him were chasing a murderer. He was a scared kid who should have been home...
Just trying to understand how "self-defense" plays into the sequence of events BEFORE anyone gets shot. What are you basing that on?
I don't know enough facts pertaining to the events leading up to where first person he's accused of shooting is shot. The deceased was filmed daring those guys to shoot. I can only consider Kyle's story of self-defense in that circumstance.
There's video footage of Kyle falling and the second person is shot after hitting or attempting to hit him with a skateboard and grabbing Kyle's gun. The last person shot by Kyle was carrying a handgun and in that circumstance, could have easily been perceived as a threat.
I think criminal charges may be appropriate. I dont think murder one is appropriate.
Do you think that daring someone to shoot justifies a self-defense defense?The deceased was filmed daring those guys to shoot. I can only consider Kyle's story of self-defense in that circumstance.
I think he is basing it on "because Trump said so".
No. IIRC, Kyle said the first victim attacked and tried to take his gun. He was previously recorded shouting, "shoot me, n-word!" at the people on the car lot with the guns. It doesn't justify his death, but speaks to his motives/status on the scene as someone who likely was looking for a fight.Do you think that daring someone to shoot justifies a self-defense defense?
What, you don't have a party? You're not a Republican?
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I am a Democrat, have been a Republican as well, just not a fool with blinders on who is incapable of seeing more than one side of every issue...
No. IIRC, Kyle said the first victim attacked and tried to take his gun. He was previously recorded shouting, "shoot me, n-word!" at the people on the car lot with the guns. It doesn't justify his death, but speaks to his motives/status on the scene as someone who likely was looking for a fight.
*Also, this shooting happened in Wisconsin.
I don't know enough facts pertaining to the events leading up to where first person he's accused of shooting is shot. The deceased was filmed daring those guys to shoot. I can only consider Kyle's story of self-defense in that circumstance.
There's video footage of Kyle falling and the second person is shot after hitting or attempting to hit him with a skateboard and grabbing Kyle's gun. The last person shot by Kyle was carrying a handgun and in that circumstance, could have easily been perceived as a threat.
I think criminal charges may be appropriate. I dont think murder one is appropriate.
The election could be reduced to law and order. https://amgreatness.com/2020/08/30/cultural-suicide-is-painless/
I disagree, if anyone pushes the envelope by screaming "shoot me n-word" to a group of people with guns, protecting a business, in that climate, they should infact be eliminated post haste. I bet the rest of the crowed will quickly go back to their Biden Welfare quietly and be good little Dem's grateful for their monthly subsidies, that I pay.
You should take some time and reflect on what you posted here. This is pretty awful. I hope you are not this person.
This is pretty interesting- how two longtime Kenosha neighbors see the situation. I thought it was pretty interesting that the Trump supporter asks why so many white people support BLM. She also doesn't seem to understand what systemic racism actually means...
"The Morgans and the Hanneses fly their political colors — one for President Trump, the other for Joe Biden — on adjoining front yards that have remained a neighborly, if intense, battlefield in the nation's culture wars.
At the Morgan home on Third Avenue in Kenosha's historic Harbor Side district, a Trump flag waved in the breeze Friday next to a “Women for Trump” sign and a carved wooden bear wearing a homemade plastic “Make America Great Again” hat. Mary Morgan keeps close watch on things, as people have stolen her signs and shouted epithets toward her.
On the other side of the yard, where former flower child-turned painter and grandmother Susan Hannes lives, the breeze stirred “Biden 2020” flags near a sign that said “Black lives matter, women’s rights are human rights, no human is illegal, science is real, love is love, no matter your faith or ability kindness is everything.”
After protests and violence erupted in Kenosha, the competing messages on the front lawns have forced the longtime neighbors — who avoided talking politics for years — to confront political and ideological divisions roiling this crucial swing state and the country. At one point recently they, too, inevitably, clashed."
https://news.yahoo.com/two-kenosha-neighbors-two-views-003724136.html