The consequences of living in a pro-Trump county

[outside shooter]

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame.

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

 

[Lucy01]

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame.

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

I call BS

 

[mcmurtry66]

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame.

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

....And kids didn't fall as far behind in school, and businesses stayed open, and livelihoods were maintained, and sports were played, and birthdays were celebrated, and people got on with it

 

[outside shooter]

NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.7 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.

The trend was robust, even when controlling for age, which is the primary demographic risk of COVID-19 mortality. The data also reveal a major contributing factor to the death rate difference: The higher the vote share for Trump, the lower the vaccination rate.

 

[ButHerEmails]

NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.7 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.

The trend was robust, even when controlling for age, which is the primary demographic risk of COVID-19 mortality. The data also reveal a major contributing factor to the death rate difference: The higher the vote share for Trump, the lower the vaccination rate.

That’s just freedom.

 

[mcmurtry66]

NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.7 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.

The trend was robust, even when controlling for age, which is the primary demographic risk of COVID-19 mortality. The data also reveal a major contributing factor to the death rate difference: The higher the vote share for Trump, the lower the vaccination rate.

...And kids didn't fall as far behind in school, and sports were played, and businesses stayed home, and livelihoods were maintained, and birthdays were celebrated, and people got on with it.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame.

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

You should don a hazmat suit and move into one of those Earth-houses in the desert and ride it out until it's over...however long it takes.

God bless freedom, Republicans, and federalism.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

You should don a hazmat suit and move into one of those Earth-houses in the desert and ride it out until it's over...however long it takes.

God bless freedom, Republicans, and federalism.

Did you wake up drunk?

 

[mrhighlife]

...And kids didn't fall as far behind in school, and sports were played, and businesses stayed home, and livelihoods were maintained, and birthdays were celebrated, and people got on with it.

You know you can do all that and still get vaccinated and wear a mask indoors. Not sure why it has to be one or the other.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Did you wake up drunk?

Lol why? Trump isn't president and the constant fear porn is engendering undue anxiety over the collective country. Oh and Shooter is a clown. Did you?

 

[bawlmer]

...And kids didn't fall as far behind in school, and sports were played, and businesses stayed home, and livelihoods were maintained, and birthdays were celebrated, and people got on with it.

Maybe someone will do that study.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Lol why? Trump isn't president and the constant fear porn is engendering undue anxiety over the collective country. Oh and Shooter is a clown. Did you?

Multiple Reply Syndrome. Often a symptom of drinking and posting.

 

[mcmurtry66]

You know you can do all that and still get vaccinated and wear a mask indoors. Not sure why it has to be one or the other.

I'm all for masks and vaccines. Shaming and politicizing isn't the path. Blacks are hospitalized at 3x the rate as whites.. Hospitizatin is the marked we use. Their vax latex are low. Where are the left's attacks on blacks. Shooter is a far left nut who wants to attack on politics not address a health issue

 

[mcmurtry66]

Maybe someone will do that study.

Numerous studies and how far kids are behind from lockdowns and closings and fear porn from the left

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame.

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

Good grief Shooter. You claim to be an expert data guy, yet you don’t see the huge disconnect in NPR’s headline which you cite with approval?

 

[ButHerEmails]

You know you can do all that and still get vaccinated and wear a mask indoors. Not sure why it has to be one or the other.

But livelihoods went on. At least for the ones who didn’t die from Covid or suffer any of the potential long term effects.

And I just want to throw this out there regarding the vaccine. I still haven’t gotten a speeding ticket since being fully vaccinated. I’m not saying that’s the reason, I’m just saying.

 

[mcmurtry66]

But livelihoods went on. At least for the ones who didn’t die from Covid or suffer any of the potential long term effects.

And I just want to throw this out there regarding the vaccine. I still haven’t gotten a speeding ticket since being fully vaccinated. I’m not saying that’s the reason, I’m just saying.

Do you mean the elderly with comorbidities? Those in nursing homes? Because that's what the statistics reveal. Yet the left wanted to lockdown healthy 30 year olds and keep kids home from school . Check their stats....

 

[mcmurtry66]

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame.

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

These stats have to be disappointing to you down there in PBC. Big DeSantis guy that you were LOL. P.S. I thought Biden was the big unifier? Can't persuade 40 percent of the country nor blacks with a black VP

 

[bawlmer]

Numerous studies and how far kids are behind from lockdowns and closings and fear porn from the left

I thought you were suggesting Trump counties performed better on those metrics.

Besides, the causal factor is vaccination rates. Seems worthwhile information, but the Trump connection should have been left out. We need more information about how vaccinations are saving lives.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

But livelihoods went on. At least for the ones who didn’t die from Covid or suffer any of the potential long term effects.

And I just want to throw this out there regarding the vaccine. I still haven’t gotten a speeding ticket since being fully vaccinated. I’m not saying that’s the reason, I’m just saying.

Exactly. @outside shooter,, did you see the second paragraph?

 

[mcmurtry66]

I thought you were suggesting Trump counties performed better on those metrics.

Besides, the causal factor is vaccination rates. Seems worthwhile information, but the Trump connection should have been left out. We need more information about how vaccinations are saving lives.

I guarantee Trump counties performed better. Kids were more likely to stay in school. The deleterious impact of school closings is well-documented.

I agree completely on vaccines. But we will never get to 90 percent. And having Covid as some unrelentingly reported cloud isn't doing us any favors, particularly when the doom and gloom is incongruent with the stats of those under 60 etc

But all this thread really is - is Shooter's Trump obsession.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

I guarantee Trump counties performed better. Kids were more likely to stay in school. The deleterious impact of school closings is well-documented.

I agree completely on vaccines. But we will never get to 90 percent. And having Covid as some unrelentingly reported cloud isn't doing us any favors, particularly when the doom and gloom is incongruent with the stats of those under 60 etc

But all this thread really is - is Shooter's Trump obsession.

Just a gut feeling? Lmao

 

[mcmurtry66]

Just a gut feeling? Lmao

Absent the well-documented re testing between those who were in school and out, Grover, as set forth below. What's more Shooter should be grateful for the idiotic Covid policies of the left. They raised his property value by at least 1/3, and climbing.

Virtual school resulted in 'significant' academic learning loss, study finds

A study on Covid’s long-term impact on students finds “significant” academic learning loss.

www.google.com

 

[Indyhorn]

I have to wonder how the QAnon sycophants are processing the news that Trump himself was a frequent traveler to Epstein’s island. That detail sort of undermines their whole narrative- not that most I know are bright enough to actually process data

 

[hoot1]

Kids losing ground because they weren't able to attend school is something which can be made up over time, but losing a parent or caregiver to Covid is a tragedy which is much harder to overcome. This article in part states the following...

According to an estimate published recently in the journal Pediatrics, at least 140,000 American children had lost a parent or caregiver because of the coronavirus by the end of June—meaning that one of roughly every 500 children lost one of the most important adults in their life. Susan Hillis, a co-author of the study and an epidemiologist at the CDC, told me that as of earlier this month, the total had reached at least 170,000.

 

[bawlmer]

I guarantee Trump counties performed better. Kids were more likely to stay in school. The deleterious impact of school closings is well-documented.

I agree completely on vaccines. But we will never get to 90 percent. And having Covid as some unrelentingly reported cloud isn't doing us any favors, particularly when the doom and gloom is incongruent with the stats of those under 60 etc

But all this thread really is - is Shooter's Trump obsession.

I'm in a Biden county where schools went back last fall, so I don't think there's that clear of a distinction. Schools were virtual everywhere during spring 2020.

It's too bad the article focused on the Trump angle rather than the vax/nonvax one. But claims that the left wants more lockdowns and school closures are equally off-target.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I'm in a Biden county where schools went back last fall, so I don't think there's that clear of a distinction. Schools were virtual everywhere during spring 2020.

It's too bad the article focused on the Trump angle rather than the vax/nonvax one. But claims that the left wants more lockdowns and school closures are equally off-target.

Blue States Are Failing Their Students by Not Reopening Schools

Here's how they got it so wrong

time.com

The difference between how Missouri and Illinois have handled Covid has been night and day from the perspective here of a border city.

 

[Harry Hondo]

Lol why? Trump isn't president and the constant fear porn is engendering undue anxiety over the collective country. Oh and Shooter is a clown. Did you?

LOL! Reporting of the facts is now considered “fear porn” to conservatives. Perhaps this is why you all invented QAnon?

 

[mcmurtry66]

LOL! Reporting of the facts is now considered “fear porn” to conservatives. Perhaps this is why you all invented QAnon?

You can't be this naive? Or stupid? Perhaps you are both? Facts are hospitalization rates, ICUs, number of ICUs available and number of Covid patients added to it, recovery stats, death stats, demographics.... Fear porn is BREAKING: OMNICRON IS HERE. A case detected in San Francisco! Covid infections surging in Memphis. Fear porn.

The addition of your Q comment is inapposite to the topic. It's just reactionary frustration, likely to being stupid. We can debate more if you want?

 

[Harry Hondo]

You can't be this naive? Or stupid? Perhaps you are both? Facts are hospitalization rates, ICUs, number of ICUs available and number of Covid patients added to it, recovery stats, death stats, demographics.... Fear porn is BREAKING: OMNICRON IS HERE. A case detected in San Francisco! Covid infections surging in Memphis. Fear porn.

The addition of your Q comment is inapposote to the topic. It's just reactionary frustration, likely to being stupid.

But if you read beyond the headlines you’ll see that Omicron appears not to be a more deadly strain and your vaccination will protect you. No need to overreact to what you consider to be an overreaction.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.7 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.

The trend was robust, even when controlling for age, which is the primary demographic risk of COVID-19 mortality. The data also reveal a major contributing factor to the death rate difference: The higher the vote share for Trump, the lower the vaccination rate.

What was the average age in those counties? I don’t know what they mean about controlling for age. Trump crushed Biden in the elderly vote so of course there would be higher mortality in his counties.

 

[mcmurtry66]

But if you read beyond the headlines you’ll see that Omicron appears not to be a more deadly strain and your vaccination will protect you. No need to overreact to what you consider to be an overreaction.

All of this has been fear porn for the reasons I set forth.

 

[mcmurtry66]

But if you read beyond the headlines you’ll see that Omicron appears not to be a more deadly strain and your vaccination will protect you. No need to overreact to what you consider to be an overreaction.

Sorry for the attack Harry. I thought I was staying home to watch games and just found out I'm going to the country to get a real XMAS tree

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

Sorry for the attack Harry. I thought I was staying home to watch games and just found out I'm going to the country to get a real XMAS tree

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Sorry for the attack Harry. I thought I was staying home to watch games and just found out I'm going to the country to get a real XMAS tree

Be on the lookout for burl.

 

[mcmurtry66]

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Lmao. It's cold and raining!!!

 

[mcmurtry66]

Be on the lookout for burl.

I'd rather Bigfoot attack me. It's miserable out

 

[ButHerEmails]

Do you mean the elderly with comorbidities? Those in nursing homes? Because that's what the statistics reveal. Yet the left wanted to lockdown healthy 30 year olds and keep kids home from school . Check their stats....

Yeah, without looking, those people probably have higher mortality rates anyways. And it’s not just elderly who die or suffer long term effects from Covid. But I’m glad to know you’re ok with sacrificing the elderly. Why does Christmas seem like the perfect time to say something about decreasing the surplus population?

 

[mcmurtry66]

Yeah, without looking, those people probably have higher mortality rates anyways. And it’s not just elderly who die or suffer long term effects from Covid. But I’m glad to know you’re ok with sacrificing the elderly. Why does Christmas seem like the perfect time to say something about decreasing the surplus population?

I'm okay with considering a multitude of things, not just one.

 

[ButHerEmails]

I'm okay with considering a multitude of things, not just one.

So what are you considering beyond sacrificing the elderly?