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Steve Schmidt explains how the Republican Party became the party of American fascists

Popular vote at the state level to choose electors is great.

If we didn't have the electoral college then presidential campaigns could ignore a large portion of the country.

University of Southern Indiana. I work in Bloomington.

I'm an IU fan from birth but USI allowed me to pay my way from my summer jobs and take less out in loans.
What's your hometown? S. Indiana town?
 
That's your opinion. But you can't say it's more fair than one person one vote.
Considering the condition of our electorate I'm fine the way things are.

I really don't want non productive voters voting to take more of my paycheck. That is stealing my time. The only thing you cant ever get back.
 
Far-right? Ultranationalist? Militarism?

Best way out of the perception of fascism on both sides is starting to compromise in Congress . . . but Newt Gingrich's "my way or the highway" approach ain't gonna get it done.
Neither is Biden’s my way or the highway.
 
That's the genius of it. People talk about disenfranchised voters now. Imagine if half the states had essentially no say.

Yes but the senate is supposed to represent state government at the federal level. People still vote for state senators. The federal sentators were originally chosen from elected state senators.
Um. Half of the states do have no say currently.
If you are a minority in your state, your vote is pretty much pointless.

So yea. Not sure how you could further disenfranchise voters.
 
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This that Lincoln Project grifter? The one Meghan McCain didn’t want at her fathers funeral and said McCain would spit on him if he were on fire.

I love when idiots cite grifters to make their point.
The Lincoln Project perverts all left the GOP for a new grift once Trump became president and nobody would hire them anymore . They were the dudes who advised McCain and Romney to big defeats in the general. Some say they gave McCain bad advise on purpose. All they care about is money and they are now grifting the left or whoever they can to line their own pockets. The sad reality is thought the grift works and a bunch of fools have given them alot of money.
 
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Imagine how people in NY state feel ? Just look at the new anti gas appliance and heat bill. It gets passe by essentially a very small landmass part of the state with no clue what the rest of that very large rural and remotely populated state is actually like. Just one example .
I couldn't imagine living upstate NY Urban and rural needs are different but city people just don't seem to understand.
 
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Um. Half of the states do have no say currently.
If you are a minority in your state, your vote is pretty much pointless.

So yea. Not sure how you could further disenfranchise voters.
If you don't like your state you have the option to move. Can't really leave the US.

It's also why we have community level government. We are decentralized to a point for a reason.
 
As much as I have disagreed with Aloha over the 20-something years I've been here, it's clear that we have those with policy disagreements, and we have others who are completely untethered with reality (Democrats are cannibals, there is a global cabal controlling the global economy, lizard people....(!)

Steve Schmidt was the campaign manager for John McCain. As much as I disagreed policy-wise with McCain, I respected him. The Republican Party has become the party of the mentally ill. They have no policies to offer anyone to improve their lives. They're down to book banning, trans people (whom I'm sure none of them have ever met), humiliating LEGAL immigrants...etc., etc., etc. Steve Schmidt describes why this fascist ideology may destroy our country and make a mockery of the founding fathers.

Yeah he hated Trump so much he tried to get a job with him. The dude is a grifter plain and simple. He is a scumbag and will be in whatever party will fund his lifestyle. I be if the green party paid him millions he would suddenly be in the green party.

In March 2016, Schmidt met with then-GOP frontrunner Trump at Trump Tower “to join his campaign.” According to the New York Post’s source, Trump “was very turned off by the fact that Schmidt had turned on McCain.” Schmidt later dismissed the meeting as merely “an opportunity for me to take his measure, see what he was about, see the reality of a man face-to-face.”
 
If you don't like your state you have the option to move. Can't really leave the US.

It's also why we have community level government. We are decentralized to a point for a reason.

Or just do popular vote so everyone's vote counts equally.

But that would be unfair ;)
 
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Yeah he hated Trump so much he tried to get a job with him. The dude is a grifter plain and simple. He is a scumbag and will be in whatever party will fund his lifestyle. I be if the green party paid him millions he would suddenly be in the green party.

In March 2016, Schmidt met with then-GOP frontrunner Trump at Trump Tower “to join his campaign.” According to the New York Post’s source, Trump “was very turned off by the fact that Schmidt had turned on McCain.” Schmidt later dismissed the meeting as merely “an opportunity for me to take his measure, see what he was about, see the reality of a man face-to-face.”
Sounds like he's the perfect Trump sycophant.
 
That's the genius of it. People talk about disenfranchised voters now. Imagine if half the states had essentially no say.

Yes but the senate is supposed to represent state government at the federal level. People still vote for state senators. The federal sentators were originally chosen from elected state senators.
As it stands now, only 4 or 5 states matter. The battleground states that decide the election every year.
 
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Both of them?
We need a new ”ism” for what the United States has become. Fascism, communism, socialism, or capitalism don’t fit. There are aspects of all of those, and aspects of none of those in our system. Neither Democracy nor a Republic are good fix either.

Some disturbing trends . . .

5 of the 10 wealthiest counties in the US are around Washington D.C. . They produce nothing but government—and more of it at very high prices.

The free press was either willfully ignorant of, or active participants in, two of the most significant news frauds in our history.

The alliance between big tech and big surveillance is a fact—the fouth Amendment be damned.

The United State Congress has turned into a politburo where a few control everything. Fortunately, the GOP whack jobs, started to return the House to a functioning legislative body. But there is more to be done.

Federalism is ridiculed and disrespected by the federal government. There is no respect for state legislative acts from national office holders who disagree.

The judicial branch is increasingly becoming a political branch. Many see the courts as a supreme legislative body.

Legal bribery is out of control.
 
Almost . . . you left out the far-right, ultranationalist part.

From Wiki: Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

What US political party does that sound like to you?
when the political landscape is modeled as a circle … the behavior of the authoritarian right and authoritarian left blend to the point where right v. left is a perhaps matter of self identification. The two most famous fascists before WW II self identified as socialists … both were un deniably authoritarian. Defining fascists as the reactionary right today isn’t historically accurate in my view. In Spain, Franco’s ‘fascist’ coalition defeated both royalist (the reactionary right) and admittedly (authoritarian, communist backed) socialist left. … most accurate conclusion (in my opinion) for Franco may be simply authoritarian… without presuming either an ultra right or ultra left … authoritarian regimes are always repressive using many of the same methods and tactics … including acts of terror (summer of love, anyone) … repressing free speech

Today’s woke cancellation is much to closely patterned like Mao’s cultural revolution for my taste … dogma over discussion … implied confessions (here against groups of victims) … leading to a life of poverty for those who are always not worthy of compassion or forgiveness.
 
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The Lincoln Project perverts all left the GOP for a new grift once Trump became president and nobody would hire them anymore . They were the dudes who advised McCain and Romney to big defeats in the general. Some say they gave McCain bad advise on purpose. All they care about is money and they are now grifting the left or whoever they can to line their own pockets. The sad reality is thought the grift works and a bunch of fools have given them alot of money.
McCain had no chance. The Obama steamroller was unstoppable. The 2008 election was where the press conspicuously took a side and it never took its foot off the gas. Romney was one of best qualified and most accomplished candidate in years. Had he won, the country would be much better and more unified today. But Obama won and in his second term he had no guardrails and was not held accountable. Then came the trump national knee jerk. . Then never Trump. Then Biden. Now a f*cking mess.
 
I don't understand. You'll have to take me around the corner of the house to explain it to me.
(Republicans should only pass a clean debt bill with no strings attached that I won’t have to veto — isn’t that a my way or the highway proposition?)
 
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As it stands now, only 4 or 5 states matter. The battleground states that decide the election every year.

Just how he likes it since he knows that is the only way his minority opinion can rule over the majority. Sounds fair to him.
 
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when the political landscape is modeled as a circle … the behavior of the authoritarian right and authoritarian left blend to the point where right v. left is a perhaps matter of self identification. The two most famous fascists before WW II self identified as socialists … both were un deniably authoritarian. Defining fascists as the reactionary right today isn’t historically accurate in my view. In Spain, Franco’s ‘fascist’ coalition defeated both royalist (the reactionary right) and admittedly (authoritarian, communist backed) socialist left. … most accurate conclusion (in my opinion) for Franco may be simply authoritarian… without presuming either an ultra right or ultra left … authoritarian regimes are always repressive using many of the same methods and tactics … including acts of terror (summer of love, anyone) … repressing free speech

Today’s woke cancellation is much to closely patterned like Mao’s cultural revolution for my taste … dogma over discussion … implied confessions (here against groups of victims) … leading to a life of poverty for those who are always not worthy of compassion or forgiveness.

Now do conservatives repression of women's rights and Desantis repressing free speech re disney.

woke right? lol
 
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I don't disagree at this point. He's addled.

But Trump is worse.

And that's where we're at.
The dems are lobbing a perfect HR pitch right across the plate and the pubs still can’t keep their eye on the ball well enough to make contact.

No way educated suburbanites, moderate republicans, and independents vote for Trump in ‘24. I see the two Indiana Republican Senators have come out publicly to say they can’t support him. Is this finally the beginning of the end of Donald Trump?
 
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Is this finally the beginning of the end of Donald Trump?
Hopefully. Though........he almost guarantees the Dems the presidency in 24. However, to your point. I really believe the straight ticket voting would be far less pronounced as folks vote Biden/other/not Trump and then vote for Republican house and Senate candidates.

That might be the true death knell.
 
Only the most dedicated bootlicker still fails to acknowledge Covid was artificially amplified for profit and power grab.
How dedicated are the ones who still believe Trump beat Biden? I mean, those folks took the shoes off and are full on suckling the big toe right?
 
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Hopefully. Though........he almost guarantees the Dems the presidency in 24. However, to your point. I really believe the straight ticket voting would be far less pronounced as folks vote Biden/other/not Trump and then vote for Republican house and Senate candidates.

That might be the true death knell.
Yes, but I think the House and Senate republican candidates are vulnerable because of the abortion issue. Surprisingly, Trump has a moderate stance on that issue, probably because it’s saved his butt several times in the past.
 
The dems are lobbing a perfect HR pitch right across the plate and the pubs still can’t keep their eye on the ball well enough to make contact.

No way educated suburbanites, moderate republicans, and independents vote for Trump in ‘24. I see the two Indiana Republican Senators have come out publicly to say they can’t support him. Is this finally the beginning of the end of Donald Trump?
We can only hope.

Although that would surely be the death knell for Biden.
 
Yes, but I think the House and Senate republican candidates are vulnerable because of the abortion issue. Surprisingly, Trump has a moderate stance on that issue, probably because it’s saved his butt several times in the past.
Good point. 24 is going to be an absolute shitshow
 
I couldn't imagine living upstate NY Urban and rural needs are different but city people just don't seem to understand.
And rural people understand city people? I think it’s obvious both are true and part of the reason for our huge divide now.
 
Only the most dedicated bootlicker still fails to acknowledge Covid was artificially amplified for profit and power grab.
Oh my. Maybe let the people who lost family members know it was artificially amplified. They will be comforted by that, I’m sure.
 
Yes, but I think the House and Senate republican candidates are vulnerable because of the abortion issue. Surprisingly, Trump has a moderate stance on that issue, probably because it’s saved his butt several times in the past.
He sure didn’t sound like it. He wants a federal law now. After the whole point was to send it to states.
 
The dems are lobbing a perfect HR pitch right across the plate and the pubs still can’t keep their eye on the ball well enough to make contact.

No way educated suburbanites, moderate republicans, and independents vote for Trump in ‘24. I see the two Indiana Republican Senators have come out publicly to say they can’t support him. Is this finally the beginning of the end of Donald Trump?
Don’t forget young people. I will preach every day about how many more young people are motivated and active in politics due to the overreaching of policies of the extreme right. We have seen it in recent elections, protests, and online presence.
 
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