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Steve Schmidt explains how the Republican Party became the party of American fascists

What is it called when this, is what is actually happening from far Leftist?

Dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.


Dumbassism?
I'd call it authoritarianism, if it happened. But it ain't happening.
 
Almost . . . you left out the far-right, ultranationalist part.

From Wiki: Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

What US political party does that sound like to you?
Both of them?
 
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He sells lighting now. Branded Vanilla Ice lighting.

Apparently still has 1m followers on Tik Tok. Not bad
Yeah he had a house flipping show that I liked with his crew. “Flipping houses right here in palm beach!” But it was never palm beach. Lake worth. Boynton etc.
 
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Far-right? Ultranationalist? Militarism?

Best way out of the perception of fascism on both sides is starting to compromise in Congress . . . but Newt Gingrich's "my way or the highway" approach ain't gonna get it done.
Forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation...

Democrats.

strong regimentation of society and the economy

Also Democrats.

ETA: My way or the highway?


I believe we will continue to March towards authoritarianism and each side is going to believe it is because of what the other made them do. And both of them will have some valid points that they refuse to acknowledge now because we hate the nebulous idea of the other.
 
Forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation...

Democrats.

strong regimentation of society and the economy

Also Democrats.

ETA: My way or the highway?


I believe we will continue to March towards authoritarianism and each side is going to believe it is because of what the other made them do. And both of them will have some valid points that they refuse to acknowledge now because we hate the nebulous idea of the other.
I think that to the extent that this might be true, this is in response to Newt Gingrich's winner-take-all approach to governing. The margin of victory no longer is part of the calculus to compromise. Remember W's 51% philosophy. That's bad, IMO . . . .
 
I think that to the extent that this might be true, this is in response to Newt Gingrich's winner-take-all approach to governing. The margin of victory no longer is part of the calculus to compromise. Remember W's 51% philosophy. That's bad, IMO . . . .
Newt Gingrich coupled with rush led us down this path. Bork.
 
Not a Trump fan, but the way I see things is....

Had more cash under Trump.

My retirement account was higher.

Gas was cheaper for my car.
Food was cheaper.
Heating was cheaper.
Housing was affordable.
Diesel transport of goods was cheaper.
My business costs were cheaper.

Airline tickets were more affordable.
Airlines had far less major failures leaving passengers stranded.

Car lots actually were full of new cars!

Major banks didn't fail.

Country not overrun with migrants.
Fentanyl deaths were not acceptable D policy losses.
Death, rape and child trafficking @ the border wasn't seen as ok, just part of the migration process.

I could go on, but the results of D rule have been highly educational to budgets of every age group.

I imagine the most of the middle & lower class is as fed up as I am & are ready for a change back to normality & prosperity of R rule.......even if it is, heaven forbid, under Trump.

More than ready for the R fix of this D mess.
Didn’t you post this nearly word for word under your previous handle?
 
Fascists calling fascists fascists. That's what the Democrat party sounds like.

Um, who didn't want to honor the results of the election? 1 hint: not a dem and more than 1 election had deniers (see AZ election in midterms).

Gore lost by much less than Trump did and didn't cry like a baby claiming a stolen election.
 
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Huh, was there Left Wing Radio in the 90's and aughts? Was there a "Contract with America" from the Dems that I missed?
No but it isn't like there weren't left leaning voices all over the place. Radio was the one place that wasn't dominated by the left and Rush was popular and so both get demonized.

The contract with America was a campaign promise with a name. "If you elect us this is what we would like to do." The horror!
 
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Comparing the unfairness of the electoral college is hardly the same.

Oh no, there are people that think everyone's vote should count the same regardless of what state they live in.

Not even remotely close to denying the election results.
Nothing unfair about the electoral college. Each electoral college vote represents 1 house member from that state.

Senators shouldn't be directly elected either. They were originally appointed by state Senate's to represent state legislatures at the federal level.
 
Nothing unfair about the electoral college. Each electoral college vote represents 1 house member from that state.

Senators shouldn't be directly elected either. They were originally appointed by state Senate's to represent state legislatures at the federal level.
Well . . . each electoral college vote represents one house member and one senator. That's the argument against it . . . it gives too much representation to states with less population. Some would argue that's the problem. Some would argue that's the genius of it.

Can I disagree about state legislatures appointing Senators? It's my opinion that legislatures aren't appropriate for this purpose. National politics is different from state issues.
 
This that Lincoln Project grifter? The one Meghan McCain didn’t want at her fathers funeral and said McCain would spit on him if he were on fire.

I love when idiots cite grifters to make their point.
I love when idiots support the biggest grifter of them all. You donate to him to pay off his 5 million yet?
 
Nothing unfair about the electoral college. Each electoral college vote represents 1 house member from that state.

Senators shouldn't be directly elected either. They were originally appointed by state Senate's to represent state legislatures at the federal level.
Unless you think it would be more fair to allocate votes on the basis of voters where, say, a 75/25 split in the state vote has a larger impact on the popular vote than 1 electoral vote regardless of the actual vote margin.
 
Not a Trump fan, but the way I see things is....

Had more cash under Trump.

My retirement account was higher.

Gas was cheaper for my car.
Food was cheaper.
Heating was cheaper.
Housing was affordable.
Diesel transport of goods was cheaper.
My business costs were cheaper.

Airline tickets were more affordable.
Airlines had far less major failures leaving passengers stranded.

Car lots actually were full of new cars!

Major banks didn't fail.

Country not overrun with migrants.
Fentanyl deaths were not acceptable D policy losses.
Death, rape and child trafficking @ the border wasn't seen as ok, just part of the migration process.

I could go on, but the results of D rule have been highly educational to budgets of every age group.

I imagine the most of the middle & lower class is as fed up as I am & are ready for a change back to normality & prosperity of R rule.......even if it is, heaven forbid, under Trump.

More than ready for the R fix of this D mess.
I think you might be forgetting there was a pandemic that changed everything. Around the world, not just the US.
 
When the GOP starts threatening trannies with loss of employment unless they take mandated shots to cure their "disease", I'll consider them fascist.
Oh a Covid denier. That helps deny the crazy.
 
The contract with America was a campaign promise with a name. "If you elect us this is what we would like to do." The horror!
"If you elect us this is what we would like to do...."


and (the forgotten second part)

"We absolutely will not negotiate or compromise and will flame throw the other side on the floor of the House/Senate and on talk radio through teh politics of personal destruction"
 
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Well . . . each electoral college vote represents one house member and one senator. That's the argument against it . . . it gives too much representation to states with less population. Some would argue that's the problem. Some would argue that's the genius of it.

Can I disagree about state legislatures appointing Senators? It's my opinion that legislatures aren't appropriate for this purpose. National politics is different from state issues.
That's the genius of it. People talk about disenfranchised voters now. Imagine if half the states had essentially no say.

Yes but the senate is supposed to represent state government at the federal level. People still vote for state senators. The federal sentators were originally chosen from elected state senators.
 
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Unless you think it would be more fair to allocate votes on the basis of voters where, say, a 75/25 split in the state vote has a larger impact on the popular vote than 1 electoral vote regardless of the actual vote margin.
We don't have one federal election. We have 50 state presidential elections.

Direct democracy would be terrible. It's good the popular vote doesn't decide the presidency.
 
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No but it isn't like there weren't left leaning voices all over the place. Radio was the one place that wasn't dominated by the left and Rush was popular and so both get demonized.

The contract with America was a campaign promise with a name. "If you elect us this is what we would like to do." The horror!
Sh!t there was an entire left leaning radio and television network on funded by the government . Who is trying to fool whom here?
 
That's the genius of it. People talk about disenfranchised voters now. Imagine if half the states had essentially no say.
I'm OK with it the way it is now.

Yes but the senate is supposed to represent state government at the federal level. People still vote for state senators. The federal sentators were originally chosen from elected state senators.
I like the way it is now. I couldn't care less what they used to do.

And I don't agree with your characterization about what the senate is supposed to do. That's what representatives do already. The senate is supposed to be more than that . . . .
 
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I think you might be forgetting there was a pandemic that changed everything. Around the world, not just the US.
Only because people on your side let it.

But I can't complain really. I got a great job at a pharma company because they needed microbiology scientists.
 
We don't have one federal election. We have 50 state presidential elections.

Direct democracy would be terrible. It's good the popular vote doesn't decide the presidency.
So you don't like when electors are bound by state law to vote in accordance with the votes as cast by citizens?
 
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That's the genius of it. People talk about disenfranchised voters now. Imagine if half the states had essentially no say.

Yes but the senate is supposed to represent state government at the federal level. People still vote for state senators. The federal sentators were originally chosen from elected state senators.
Imagine how people in NY state feel ? Just look at the new anti gas appliance and heat bill. It gets passe by essentially a very small landmass part of the state with no clue what the rest of that very large rural and remotely populated state is actually like. Just one example .
 
We don't have one federal election. We have 50 state presidential elections.

Direct democracy would be terrible. It's good the popular vote doesn't decide the presidency.
That's your opinion. But you can't say it's more fair than one person one vote.
 
So you don't like that electors are bound by state law to vote in accordance with the votes as cast by citizens?
Popular vote at the state level to choose electors is great.

If we didn't have the electoral college then presidential campaigns could ignore a large portion of the country.
PU grad?

IU?

Other than IU/PU?
University of Southern Indiana. I work in Bloomington.

I'm an IU fan from birth but USI allowed me to pay my way from my summer jobs and take less out in loans.
 
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